💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

If he had to move on my guess is that he'd hop on the anti-woke in video games thing. Find some guy that likes to talk about the newest scandal, bring the paypigs that like that sort of thing, reap the rewards. There's a ton of medium-small youtubers who talk about that and the audience/money Andy could probably still bring would be enough to convince at least one of them. Ian Miles Cheong talks about that stuff a lot too so Andy could bring up that he got swatted by him.

By the way, if you go with that my consulting fee is $100, Andy.
Correct me if I'm wrong but this has already played out in the chris warski era, no? And that would make us go full-circle... And such is the way of the retarded phoenix!
 
A person who is willing to hand away money to a streamer in order to purchase attention at a price point higher than $2.50 in New Zealand Dollars is not a good person. Nor is one who spends more than perhaps $20 in a month on superchats. Every big donor you investigate, any in the whole world, is going to be low-down slime. Animesuckscopeandsneed, these casino paypigs, Vaush's, it doesn't matter who we're discussing because we are always discussing the kind of bedroom-captured, no-irl friends hikikomori component of Internet users. Superchats might be the most profitable way to make money online outside of a Patreon, but at least the old tipjars and the like didn't publicly shackle you to a man who'd be a spider if he could just leave his room to find a little crack to climb in.
I think I said this in this thread or somewhere else - but if you're going to spend big bucks on a streamer you may as well fucking invest in them so you get some kind of a return or something out of it. I will contest your point that all of them are degenerates, it is only the ones that do it repeatedly for attention/asspats and try to form parasocial relationships. There are high (and even lower) earning people who will tip larger amounts to content creators that they like and be done with it - it is kind of essential so that things can keep running. It is just unfortunate that the format of livestreaming in particular with chats and that kind of shit is geared for immediate engagement/positive reinforcement and it is little wonder that it has become a breeding ground for parasocial relationships.

But all tips/subs etc are obviously super impulsive purchases that have no long term thought applied to them. It's also why it can be risky for streamers to depend on them, because if they do something "wrong" all of that support can dry up instantly.
Like Sam Hyde/Jet Neptune's "fishtank" project, they launched an investment round for it because relying on paypigs isn't really viable at scale or long term - you need advertisers and shit like that. It's the same reason why someone like Joe Rogan can get huge deals or Kill Tony can get huge deals. The KC guys should realize at some stage that people like their show a lot (that's what I can see from what most people post) and try to make it a product and get partnerships and deals going, otherwise they will always be beholden to paypigs and all the negative shit that comes from it.

The real "smart" people in the streaming/e-fame game are people like Amouranth (yeah, I'm calling her intelligent). She is someone that realized that e-fame is finite and as Metokur once called it "a fickle thing" and has been investing in things like gas stations and other companies. Of course she is basically an internet whore (that does softcore porn) but she knows she is already in her 30s now and has been making what look like sensible investments along the way - but of course she has generated many millions of dollars from simps (apparently $33 million USD from OnlyFans alone) which makes doing some sound investments very easy.

I don't know enough about the Kino Casino guys to know if they invest in stuff and are as smart as Amouranth or keep a good amount of financial runway to ride shockwaves like whatever this current shit show is (assuming it is actually impacting their bottom line) but I can recall other similar streams like Kinochet (I think it was called?), The Morning Kumite, The Killstream and tons of others that were "here today, gone tomorrow" or only "exist" by the narrowest definition of the term.
 
The real victims are the few who just want a show. I like the drama. I want to hear them cope. I want to them dodge and squirm at chat while reading kiwifarms for me. These fucking cowards won't even power through the controversy. Didn't they even say on the Thanksgiving stream that they'd resume December 1st? If they let people felt them and talk shit, maybe have Andy get mad and cope, I'm sure they'd make tons of money. The changeover from Kino Casino to Kino Carnival while they seek other weirdos outside the sektur and let the audience cash in their dubs by dabbing on them would work and I do believe that after a few months everyone would forget and move on. The more they cower, the more the crowd hungers.
 
Hi, I just happened upon the most recent and feltastic episode of Kino Casino starring Andy & PPP at the same time other jannies are hitting the thread and isn’t at all suspicious. Perhaps you stop talking about this typical turdflinging and check out the latest episode. Personally I can’t wait for the next one. Huh, inorganic? Why whatever do you mean, sir?
 
Hi, I just happened upon the most recent and feltastic episode of Kino Casino starring Andy & PPP. It just so happens at the same time other jannies are hitting the thread and isn’t at all suspicious. Say, what do you mean inorganic? Perhaps you stop talking about this typical turdflinging and check out the latest episode. Personally I can’t wait for the next one. Huh, inorganic? Why whatever do you mean, sir?
You are embarrassing. And so because I posted at the same time I must be one of them, is that it? Nice conspiracy theory, faggot.
 
Hi, I just happened upon the most recent and feltastic episode of Kino Casino starring Andy & PPP at the same time other jannies are hitting the thread and isn’t at all suspicious. Perhaps you stop talking about this typical turdflinging and check out the latest episode. Personally I can’t wait for the next one. Huh, inorganic? Why whatever do you mean, sir?
And you know what's funny ? They don't even read the thread at all they just see the last 5 pages and are like "Oh this is what i have to sweep". HELLO FELLOW KIWI FARMERS ISNT THE LATEST EPISODE OF KINO CASINO SO HECKIN BASED ? I WATCH MATI SO I AM ONE OF YOU GUYS :) LETS LEAVE THIS METOKUR MASOCHIST STUFF NOW AND DON'T LOOK AT ANY OTHER PAYPIGGIES GOY ( PLEASE DONT GOY IT COULD BE ME NEXT! )
 
You are embarrassing. And so because I posted at the same time I must be one of them, is that it? Nice conspiracy theory, faggot.
It is entirely possible it is a case of bad timing on your part. But this thread shall not be derailed.
 
And you know what's funny ? They don't even read the thread at all they just see the last 5 pages and are like "Oh this is what i have to sweep". HELLO FELLOW KIWI FARMERS ISNT THE LATEST EPISODE OF KINO CASINO SO HECKIN BASED ? I WATCH MATI SO I AM ONE OF YOU GUYS :) LETS LEAVE THIS METOKUR MASOCHIST STUFF NOW AND DON'T LOOK AT ANY OTHER PAYPIGGIES GOY ( PLEASE DONT GOY IT COULD BE ME NEXT! )
Who fuck is 'they', bitch? You mean me? No I didn't read the rest of this thread because I only wanted to share my thoughts on ONE particular episode that I liked, dickhead.

I realize that Lolcow threads are usually and almost entirely negative towards the subject, but that doesn't fucking mean I can't have an honest positive reaction to their content, it just means that everyone would prefer to talk about whatever the latest drama is.
It is entirely possible it is a case of bad timing on your part. But this thread shall not be derailed.
Yes, that is exactly what happened, I accept your apology.
 
Who fuck is 'they', bitch? You mean me? No I didn't read the rest of this thread because I only wanted to share my thoughts on ONE particular episode that I liked, dickhead.
Well i wasn't even talking about you i was talking about the people coming here in general that are obviously sweeping, i just did a summary of how they usually post. Why do you feel included ?
 
Hi, I just happened upon the most recent and feltastic episode of Kino Casino starring Andy & PPP. It just so happens at the same time other jannies are hitting the thread and isn’t at all suspicious. Say, what do you mean inorganic?
It makes posters like me, who genuinely try to be positive about the show, want to distance themselves from it as quickly as possible. Whether the sweeping was directed or was just a product of people wanting to defend a show is irrelevant at this point; no one wants to be part of something where you can't even levee a good faith criticism against it. There are plenty of things that could be better about the show and handwaving it all away with memes has become the new Modus Operandi. Frankly it's worn out it's welcome quickly, the joke is stale. The MM stuff is a no-win situation for the Casino and they could've handled it much better.

tl;dr: It's possible to both be disappointed and still support a show without blindly sweeping.
 
Well i wasn't even talking about you i was talking about the people coming here in general that are obviously sweeping, i just did a summary of how they usually post. Why do you feel included ?
Oh, ok. Sorry for flying off the handle like that. A bunch of other people were reacting negatively and I just assumed you were talking about me. My mistake.
 
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