Israeli kikes vs (((diaspora)))

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Thread title says it, basically.

Most of the Izzy kikes I've met (admittedly, not many) have been kinda based, although mostly kinda cunts (in British sense of the word) too.

Just about all of the (((diaspora))) have been insufferable leftards, who hate the countries they're born into, and actually seem to hate the (((Holy Land))) as well. At least as long as it doesn't fully embrace wokism.

Discuss.
 
Because having a nation gives any group a better sense of their place in the world, rather than being a merchant caste who is encouraged to have no loyalty to anything but money. I'm not saying there aren't good Jews in the diaspora who are loyal to the country they were born in, but in general this is uncommon by virtue of their culture.

The problem is the Jews would inevitably have been intruding in someone else's nation, and they picked a really shitty spot (Palestine) to make their nation. Like I know they proposed Uganda and Madagascar, but they also proposed Alaska and that was the absolute best place for the Jews to make their Zion would've been Alaska. This was actually proposed. Kibbutz Jews are hardworking and would have made even Alaska self-sufficient in food. And I know you'd get better bagels and lox in Anchoragestein than you would Tel Aviv. Lots of gold in Alaska too, and Jews love that. They also proposed the northern part of Western Australia and that's a desert so Jews might like it, but the prospects for success seem lower. Stalin also had a great idea with the Jewish Autonomous Oblast but was too lazy to do much about it until he was literally on his deathbed.
 
I would say there's three camps to jews. Zionist, communist, and religious. If I remember right, Hertz the person who proposed zionism was an atheist jew. According to two hundred years together, much of the early Zionist movement especially in Russia was atheist. There's a reason why you see those videos of super religious jews in New York burning Israeli flags. Maybe a Israeli could explain it better. I remember them talking about how certain sects of religious jews in Israel where against it's existence, but would still live there and parasite off them.

Save the Loli dijo:
Stalin also had a great idea with the Jewish Autonomous Oblast but was too lazy to do much about it until he was literally on his deathbed.
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That was fully realized though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast The issue is most jews want to be merchants and not do hard labor. It's why the Pale of Settlement failed.
 
I wholeheartedly enjoy seeing losers seethe over Israel. Israel is the wealthiest, most educated, most modern and most capable country in existence in the entire Middle East and it drives the inbred muzzies nuts. And they accomplished it in less than three decades in a perpetual state of war with their neighbors. They are so superior to their neighbors in every way it's unreal.

Meanwhile, 1,600 years of The Prophet and the Arabs are dirt poor and can barely read. They haven't invented a single thing in a thousand years.

Can't wait to see them steamroll Palestine, annex it, and finish them off for good. Dump their asses in Jordan and let them handle it.
 
The (((diaspora))) is ok with reinventing a 5000 year old religion at will.

They're ok with female rabbis.

American Judaism is like woke Islam.
 
Save the Loli dijo:
The problem is the Jews would inevitably have been intruding in someone else's nation, and they picked a really shitty spot
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There wasn't any "Someone else's nation", it was under british rule and under british laws they started buying the lands over which the early state of Israel was defined. Later territories were added by right of conquest.

None of this was ever illegal or illegitimate. We can argue over its morality for years and years, though. I don't particularly feel it was immoral or unethical, either.

Israel was as legitimate as Rhodesia. And it is as much of a beacon of civilisation on its area as Rhodesia was on theirs.

But Israel did and does all sort of pretty awful stuff to survive in a largely hostile area, and Rhodesia didn't. That's why Israel survives and Rhodesia didn't.
 
Manat dijo:
Sure, it hard to defeat the welfare queens in tel aviv.
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Please, they get $3 billion a year and Israel kicked Arab ass even when they were totally hammered on all sides in 1948. That money is pocket change compared to their GDP and if either the US or Israel wanted to they could fund the entire difference themselves and purchase their weapons.

It's just too useful to the Western world having a civilized, prosperous and free country in the middle of inbred, ignorant worshippers of the child-raping "prophet" of Islam. Just compare the filth, crime and pollution of Iraq or Egypt to the clean, beautiful cities of Israel. Hopefully everywhere between the Tigris and Euphrates and Nile are one day folded into Israel so they can be properly Westernized and civilized.

If I had my way it'd be $30 billion.
 
Ewan McGregor dijo:
There wasn't any "Someone else's nation", it was under british rule and under british laws they started buying the lands over which the early state of Israel was defined. Later territories were added by right of conquest.

None of this was ever illegal or illegitimate. We can argue over its morality for years and years, though. I don't particularly feel it was immoral or unethical, either.

Israel was as legitimate as Rhodesia. And it is as much of a beacon of civilisation on its area as Rhodesia was on theirs.

But Israel did and does all sort of pretty awful stuff to survive in a largely hostile area, and Rhodesia didn't. That's why Israel survives and Rhodesia didn't.
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Many actions of the British Empire in World War I were illegal and illegitimate, and that includes what they did in the Middle East to the Ottoman Empire. Hence the Mandate for Palestine was an illegitimate creation. But even getting some of their banker buddies on their side wasn't enough to create Israel, hence why there were so many unironic Jewish fascists in the 1930s. The Zionists had to guilt trip everyone with the Holocaust and get a bunch of war-scarred settlers from Eastern Europe (i.e. people desensitized enough to violence they would gleefully inflict it on others, especially since they could identify Palestinians as Nazi allies) to actually make Israel in 1948.
 
The idea of Israel as a homeland only really works if you don't have dual-citizenship Jews running amok in other countries.

I don't think it works both ways.
 
Save the Loli dijo:
Many actions of the British Empire in World War I were illegal and illegitimate, and that includes what they did in the Middle East to the Ottoman Empire. Hence the Mandate for Palestine was an illegitimate creation. But even getting some of their banker buddies on their side wasn't enough to create Israel, hence why there were so many unironic Jewish fascists in the 1930s. The Zionists had to guilt trip everyone with the Holocaust and get a bunch of war-scarred settlers from Eastern Europe (i.e. people desensitized enough to violence they would gleefully inflict it on others, especially since they could identify Palestinians as Nazi allies) to actually make Israel in 1948.
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illegal according to who? the British Empire/royal make all the laws

the British royals were/are satanist, they had every motivation to A) rewrite history to delegitimize israels claim to the land (not unlike what they did to the irish) and B) empower islam/satanism in the region and in seats of power....

bird.up dijo:
um "love your neighbor" sweetie
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exactly. my neighbors. not satanists.

be that as it may "love my neighbor" does not apply to the creator of the universe. he's judge, jury and executioner bro

remember when they were selling shit in the temple and he kicked their asses with a whip? its gonna be a lot like that
 
Helvítis Túristi dijo:
I would say there's three camps to jews. Zionist, communist, and religious. If I remember right, Hertz the person who proposed zionism was an atheist jew. According to two hundred years together, much of the early Zionist movement especially in Russia was atheist. There's a reason why you see those videos of super religious jews in New York burning Israeli flags. Maybe a Israeli could explain it better. I remember them talking about how certain sects of religious jews in Israel where against it's existence, but would still live there and parasite off them.
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The splits in Zionism are actually manyfold and you will find both secular and religious Jews on both sides of each. There is a lot of nuance and differences between each faction and it's not an exact one side versus another thing... BUT the two main sides if you could call them that mainly disagree on how/when Israel should exist. This schism dates back to the late 1800s where you had people like Ahad Ha'am arguing more for cultural and spiritual advancement before attempts at statehood. He wrote a book called "Lo Zu Haderekh"[This is not the way] where he explains that Jews should be better Jews before creating Israel.

Anyways long story short a lot of the terrorists in Irgun and early Israeli politicians were Labor Zionists however the more right leaning Zionist faction as represented by your Bibi Netanyahu's and those types have taken over and this is why some Jews absolutely oppose Israel with a seething blood hatred. Not because they think Israel shouldn't exist but that they could do it better and if the current faction loses enough power they can swoop in and do things their way.
 
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