Islamic theology thread for Christians - No mudslimes allowed

[Skitarii]

Discuss Islamic self-owns and ways we can make fun of them more accurately.

If I see a single hijab, I will shoot you on sight

 

[AgendaPoster]

- they fought against Byzantium and Persia which they considered corrupt and degenerate, won against both, only to fall prey just mere decades after to the exact habits that those two empires had and completely destroy their nascent Arab Empire
- they allowed Turkic populations and other foreigners that superficially converted to Islam to get into positions of influence, only to be made subjects of their empires later and forced to colab with infidel Britbongs to free themselves
- the Turkic populations also started as a warrior caste, but fell to degeneracy and gruggness, becoming the famous sick man of Europe.
- they sheltered fugitive, expelled Jewish people over the centuries, only for the same tribe to return in full in the 1900-ish period, and to destabilize their whole area
- they had leaders that realized a unifying ideology is necessary, like pan-Arabism, or they will be fucked, but they sperged out and failed their Egypt Syria alliance and more
- they are hating each other based on a murder of a Muhammad relative that occurred like 1300 years ago
- they were once at the forefront of science and technological progress, but they allowed their fundie wingnuts to crush the scholars and reimplement a restrictive version of Islam that it's questionable is even what Muhammad would've wanted, managing to remain behind European decades, if not more

 

[Skitarii]

only to fall prey just mere decades after to the exact habits that those two empires had and completely destroy their nascent Arab Empire

The zombie empire known as the Abbasid Caliphate really was the last time Arabs ever had any form of relavance outside of East Africa, wasn't it?

they allowed their fundie wingnuts to crush the scholars

To be fair to them, the Ilkhanate were the ones who destroyed Islam's golden age, while the rise of the modern Salafi movement was 100% the fault of Atasperg and Egyptian postmodernism.

 

[TheRedChair]

I'm going to throw 2 videos in here. Interesting perspective

I can make another parallel between S. America and the Catholic Church.

This is what happens when religion controls science and the minds of people.

This is the reason why in the US There is a separation between church and state.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

They had a cool culture a long long time ago, and Zarathustra seems like a cool dude, but all that shit (or what remained of it) was fucking torn down by the fucking Pedo worshippers... no greater self-own. You can tell a culture's class by its artistic quality. The Persians crafted some awesome shit in their day, but nothing of the Islamist's "creation" compares to that, even after thousands of years and stealing so much from the Byzantines (putting rocket ships on Justinian's baby just made it tacky, you fucking retards).

 

[Mothra1988]

They had a cool culture a long long time ago, and Zarathustra seems like a cool dude, but all that shit (or what remained of it) was fucking torn down by the fucking Pedo worshippers... no greater self-own. You can tell a culture's class by its artistic quality. The Persians crafted some awesome shit in their day, but nothing of the Islamist's "creation" compares to that, even after thousands of years and stealing so much from the Byzantines (putting rocket ships on Justinian's baby just made it tacky, you fucking retards).

They can't draw human beings. Of course their art sucks.

 

[Jewthulhu]

St. John of Damascus had a good critique of Islam in his Fount of Knowledge book. He spends most of it making fun of them.

http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/stjohn_islam.aspx

 

[YourFriendlyLurker 2.0]

They can't draw human beings. Of course their art sucks.

In fact, it depends on the kind of muslims. In Uzbekistan and in some regions of the old Persia the depictions of humans beings were allowed. There were even the illustrated books about the Prophet. If I recall correctly, Quran doesn't forbid the depiction of human beings directly, it is some hadith that does.

Actually, all debates about Islam could end with one comparison: take a quality of living in christian countries=> take a quality of living in islamic countries=>compare=>profit

 

[Mothra1988]

In fact, it depends on the kind of muslims. In Uzbekistan and in some regions of the old Persia the depictions of humans beings were allowed. There were even the illustrated books about the Prophet. If I recall correctly, Quran doesn't forbid the depiction of human beings directly, it is some hadith that does.

Actually, all debates about Islam could end with one comparison: take a quality of living in christian countries=> take a quality of living in islamic countries=>compare=>profit

Well, the legalistic hard asses won and forced their autism on everyone else. If you look at the history of Islam they also probably considered things like Psalms and the Book of Matthew canon, but that has been erased by autists that now spend their entire time attacking any other scripture as "corrupted."

 

[Skitarii]

Well, the legalistic hard asses won and forced their autism on everyone else. If you look at the history of Islam they also probably considered things like Psalms and the Book of Matthew canon, but that has been erased by autists that now spend their entire time attacking any other scripture as "corrupted."

Some still do, others don't. Depends on the madhhab/fiqh

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I used to have a PDF of it, but I know there's a "school" of German scholarship that's always insisted that Mo' never existed, the Koran was originally written in Aramaic and the whole thing has its roots in a Persian attempt to shoehorn an old Eastern Christian prayer book into something that would unify the Arabs and get them away from being Byzantine auxilaries. Which then backfired spectacularly.

I know one of the arguments was that they had to make substantial changes in how Arabic was written for the Koran and parts of it supposedly make more sense if translated using Aramaic. Obviously this scholarship is slightly controversial and people involved can't use their real names for obvious reasons.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The most notable thing about Islam is how Muslims don't like to talk about it with non muslims. If you consumed the average amount of media you'll hear a salespitch of just about every religion, but Islam might as well be Scientology in not having any human worthy morals or history to attract people, using force or coercion instead.

The text itself is apperantly full of double standards and "it's okay when we/Muhammad do this, but don't you dare do the opposite!".

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

allah is lucifer

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

allah is lucifer

I am aware of that too. The crescent moon and star should give it away as it appears to be an attribution to a Satanic being.

 

[Skitarii]

I am aware of that too. The crescent moon and star should give it away as it appears to be an attribution to a Satanic being.

The crescent is a Christian symbol that the turkroaches stole tbh

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

The crescent is a Christian symbol that the turkroaches stole tbh

I think the Turkish one is actually Persian (Zoroastrian) in origin, but frankly Islam steals a lot of shit from Orthodoxy/Catholicism and imitates it extremely poorly with no understanding as to what the original authors meant by it (like how Jesus is the Son/Breath of God but not God in their theology, which is nonsense to anyone half familiar with Christian theology and the writing of the Jewish prophets), so it wouldn't surprise me if it was ultimately Christian in origin.

I used to have a PDF of it, but I know there's a "school" of German scholarship that's always insisted that Mo' never existed, the Koran was originally written in Aramaic and the whole thing has its roots in a Persian attempt to shoehorn an old Eastern Christian prayer book into something that would unify the Arabs and get them away from being Byzantine auxilaries. Which then backfired spectacularly.

I know one of the arguments was that they had to make substantial changes in how Arabic was written for the Koran and parts of it supposedly make more sense if translated using Aramaic. Obviously this scholarship is slightly controversial and people involved can't use their real names for obvious reasons.

Do you have the name of the PDF at least? That sounds interesting and makes sense in a way. Islam is so self-contradictory and frankly bullshit, that the only way a religion like that could be made is if it was aping another one very poorly

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

The crescent is a Christian symbol that the turkroaches stole tbh

Interesting point. But I heard of a demonic figure called Baal and supposedly it is what the Islamic Nation may be unknowingly worshipping.

 

[analrapist]

Do you have the name of the PDF at least? That sounds interesting and makes sense in a way. Islam is so self-contradictory and frankly bullshit, that the only way a religion like that could be made is if it was aping another one very poorly

 

[Skitarii]

nonsense to anyone half familiar with Christian theology and the writing of the Jewish prophets

It's nonsense to anyone with a basic grasp of logic.

For a religion so obsessed with Plato and Aristotle, they sure sucked at applying their principles

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I think the Turkish one is actually Persian (Zoroastrian) in origin, but frankly Islam steals a lot of shit from Orthodoxy/Catholicism and imitates it extremely poorly with no understanding as to what the original authors meant by it (like how Jesus is the Son/Breath of God but not God in their theology, which is nonsense to anyone half familiar with Christian theology and the writing of the Jewish prophets), so it wouldn't surprise me if it was ultimately Christian in origin.

Do you have the name of the PDF at least? That sounds interesting and makes sense in a way. Islam is so self-contradictory and frankly bullshit, that the only way a religion like that could be made is if it was aping another one very poorly

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That's the one, it's an interesting read at the very least.