Is There a God? - Lol

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Woodcutting bot dijo:
Having such immense knowledge and powers of prediction, it will have reduced its likelihood of dying to 0%, making it immortal by definition. What it does with this power is anyones guess, but it likely wouldn't care about you or your problems. What would it look like? Fuck knows, but it would probably have to be absolutely gargantuan in size to account for the immense processing power needed to truly reach "omniscience".
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The problem with this is the same with any other computing device, though, and that's there are hard limits to the possible information density of objects. There's also the serious problem of entropy in the form of waste heat, as well as speed of light issues related to the size of the object (the so-called Jupiter brain problem). The more computation it does, the more entropy you get and the sooner you run into the heat death of the universe.
 
Honestly, as far as I can tell, the vast majority of KF is going to be agnostics and atheists. Most religious people wouldn't frequent a place like this (sorry, God.) Maybe you could do a poll, though? Religious people tend to be very reluctant to voice their belief these days, especially on a forum, but a poll might get us a more accurate reading, which I think could be interesting?
 
I'm an agonsitic atheist. I don't think theres a way to know for sure whether there's a god or not, but I don't think there is.
 
I consider myself a strong atheist. For those who don't know what the distinction between a strong and weak atheist is, a weak atheist doesn't believe in God. A strong atheist doesn't believe there is a God. For the record, I don't like the terminology being "weak" and "strong", I basically see it as neckbeards trying to one-up each other on how much they don't believe in God. As far as I'm concerned, if you don't have an active belief in God, you're an atheist. Strong also implies you're willing to be a strident douche about it, but as long as religion leaves my rights and the rights of others alone I don't kick up a fuss. But since "strong" and "weak" is the widely-used terminology I guess I'm stuck using it.

That said, even strong atheism allows for the possibility of there being a God or something equating to a deity, but it's a very, very small possibility. I personally don't believe there's a God because I've never seen any evidence of one, or anything supernatural and nobody else has either.

If there is a higher power, I strongly doubt it's one described in any of the holy books on Earth. There are thousands of religions worldwide, all of which believe in a different deity (and some which don't have a deity). That's not even getting into all the extinct deities like the Greek, Egyptian and Viking Gods (although at least those religions realised their Gods were raving douchebags). They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong and I lean far more heavily towards them all being wrong.
 
TheImportantFart dijo:
I consider myself a strong atheist. For those who don't know what the distinction between a strong and weak atheist is, a weak atheist doesn't believe in God. A strong atheist doesn't believe there is a God. For the record, I don't like the terminology being "weak" and "strong", I basically see it as neckbeards trying to one-up each other on how much they don't believe in God. As far as I'm concerned, if you don't have an active belief in God, you're an atheist. Strong also implies you're willing to be a strident douche about it, but as long as religion leaves my rights and the rights of others alone I don't kick up a fuss. But since "strong" and "weak" is the widely-used terminology I guess I'm stuck using it.

That said, even strong atheism allows for the possibility of there being a God or something equating to a deity, but it's a very, very small possibility. I personally don't believe there's a God because I've never seen any evidence of one, or anything supernatural and nobody else has either.

If there is a higher power, I strongly doubt it's one described in any of the holy books on Earth. There are thousands of religions worldwide, all of which believe in a different deity (and some which don't have a deity). That's not even getting into all the extinct deities like the Greek, Egyptian and Viking Gods (although at least those religions realised their Gods were raving douchebags). They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong and I lean far more heavily towards them all being wrong.
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Lmao
 
Gym Leader Elesa dijo:
Honestly, as far as I can tell, the vast majority of KF is going to be agnostics and atheists. Most religious people wouldn't frequent a place like this (sorry, God.) Maybe you could do a poll, though? Religious people tend to be very reluctant to voice their belief these days, especially on a forum, but a poll might get us a more accurate reading, which I think could be interesting?
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Nah, chill. I don't mind that other people believe in a superior being. If that helps you find meaning in life or cope with loss/death, be my guest. It's still better than the lack of resolve our lolcows have.
 
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Ravelord dijo:
Nah, chill. I don't mind that other people believe in a superior being. If that helps you find meaning in life or cope with loss/death, be my guest. It's still better than the lack of resolve our lolcows have.
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Indeed, you do? Very well, and? Perhaps you quoted the wrong post?
 
Woodcutting bot dijo:
I not sure there is a god right now, but I'm certain that there will be.

If the way I suspect the universe works is correct (big bang+expansion --> big crunch --> big bang+expansion-->big crunch--> ad infinitum), then I believe that the cascading complexity of life across the universe will eventually lead to a single being that effectively knows how everything works in the universe, and with a big enough brain, it could essentially predict everything thereafter.

Having such immense knowledge and powers of prediction, it will have reduced its likelihood of dying to 0%, making it immortal by definition. What it does with this power is anyones guess, but it likely wouldn't care about you or your problems. What would it look like? Fuck knows, but it would probably have to be absolutely gargantuan in size to account for the immense processing power needed to truly reach "omniscience".

If it can't survive the big crunch, then it will die like everything else in the galaxy, and things will start from the absolute beginning and continue in the exact same fashion forevermore. If it could somehow survive the big crunch by somehow transitioning outside the physical dimension, then it would likely linger on forever where we couldn't see it (IE literal skydaddy).

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Implying that hasn't already happened in the infinite universe cycle
 
AnOminous dijo:
Personally, I am a hard agnostic. I don't know whether there is a God or not, and neither do you. Fuck you. You have no idea.
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I can relate a lot to this, but whenever God is brought up in my mind, I always consider the Problem of Evil (if God is all-good and all-powerful, then why does evil exist), and how it typically knocks the possibility of a God existing into the floor.

And besides, is God even good? The guy committed genocide/caused someone to commit some kind of mass-killing like at least four different times (probably more), and the Bible says in Revelations that he's planning another mass torturing/genocide of people after he gets all the "believers" out of the earth. And let's not forget that if someone decides not to believe in him, he'll just throw them into a fiery pit for the rest of eternity. How benevolent.

As for churches and religious groups, I have enough experience in both of them to never want to associate with any of them. Ever.
 
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