Is racism ever justified?

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Fangsofjeff dijo:
How do you define race, anyways? I mean, groups of people with the same skin color often consider themselves different and are bigoted towards each other despite their similar genes.
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It's a definition game.

To the extent that even acknowledging that differences can exist between races has been defined as racism, well, yes, racism is justified. The alternative is head-in-the-sand thinking that relies on magical realism.

But in that case, there's racism and then there's racism, y'know? And some of it's fine, but some of it very much isn't.

I have no patience with people who go off about "master race" or "the subhumans" or whatever. Most of them are not exemplars of their own glorious race. Trends are trends, and unless you're a world-famous astrophysicist or something, I promise you there's a member of any race you care to name who can out-think you, and unless you're canonized in some religion, I'll say the same thing about being more morally and/or ethically pure and upstanding than you.

When you've got something to lose, feel free to play the numbers game. I don't pick up hitchhikers of any color, despite that fact I'm sure not more than one in fifty would shank me and take my car. But don't be a jackass and presume that anyone who has ever hitchhiked is a latent kidney-stabber.
 
Professional law enforcement have the training and experience to practice behavioral profiling, but for the average individual, probably it is safer and more reliable to fall back on racial profiling. Perhaps it is a bit impolitic, but one's physical safety should always be the first priority, and social considerations should always be secondary to that.
 
SelmaHendersen dijo:
And from where do you think culture comes? Does it just fall out of the sky? Is it a coincidence that whites created western culture? Biology creates society and race/demographics are significantly more important than culture any day. Ask any non white in America to discuss his identity and he will state his racial identity first.
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1. Culture is not genetic, as much as Americans who go on about how they're totally Irish because of 23andMe test results. It arises from social debate, interaction with other cultures, the accumulation of individual actions, and the environment in which a culture exists. It is true that some prosocial behaviors are biologically dictated, but acting like the only options are BIOTRUTHS or fairy-tale nonsense is a gross oversimplification of a complex issue. Furthermore the races are not so biologically different that the drastic differences between Japanese, English, Persian, and Mali society can be explained by pointing to some difference in the brain, unless you are engaged in motivated reasoning. In America, the fact that almost every "problem" ethnic minority is heavily mixed-race makes the argument, for example, that blacks are innately criminal even harder to support.
2. "Western Culture" is such a vague term as to be meaningless. Please define what you mean by "Western Culture" and I could try to explain why I think certain ideas developed the way they did, but I thoroughly reject the idea that purely biological factors led to them.
3. This is likely due to the fact that society, for good or ill, tends to define ethnic minorities as ethnic minorities first and foremost, especially in certain geographical areas.
 
The Chinese people are the enemy of mankind, they must be eliminated, removed from this planet. If I had a magic button that would launch every last chinaman into the sun I would press it without a moment's hesitation and the world would be a better place by every measurable standard.
 
When people invade a country for "a better life" to steal and destroy everything, and then blame said country on their beloved home country's turmoil and others who could hardly give a fuck about their supposed empathy, yes.
 
I don't think what you're describing is racism. I think you're speaking of prejudice and while it's often not the best mode to approach the world (especially if you're interested in experiencing more of the world), sometimes it can be highly beneficial. For example, when I lived in the United States, I did not go to white doctors. It wasn't personal, it's simply the fact that if I'm in pain or ill I need to be taken seriously and I already had experiences where it was obvious I was not. Altering who my providers were fixed the problem.

Similarly, were I living in Atlanta, I would be extremely careful about my sex life since the HIV rate there has reached epidemic levels and seeing as how it is a predominantly black city; well...you see where this is going.

I think it's also important to recognize when prejudice is caused by legitimate trauma. I'm not going to blame a white dude for being distrustful of black people if he got jumped or beaten up. That kind of violence is traumatizing. Insisting that this dude consider my feelings and comfort when it comes to who he personally associates with is the same kind of language abusers use. Yes. Seriously.

Does that mean I'm cool with him calling me a nigger when all I'm trying to do is buy some damn juice? No. But does that mean his wariness is understandable? Yeah. I probably have the same wariness about him but for wholly different reasons.

It's sticky, generally emotionally based, and can be downright gross but I understand.

Cats and books are better than people anyway.
 
Racism is a crazy loose term now a days unlike 20+ years ago. Some how all races are the same but not or something? Back in the day it was clear cut now you have to love a race or be one or see everyone same and be one or some shit?

Just go with flow and keep it on DL on daily live, like this site, never show power level. There's nothing to be gained from saying gas the kikes in a job. Nothing. Even if you hit a 200 million dollar lotto. Don't risk it. Don't make a hassle for you.

I'm sure some people may call me racist, some not, I just don't care that word has no meaning to me, but it has scary power. That's the problem. I would never hunt down or hurt someone from their race but I also don't think it's ok to force race mixing even socially at force. I think it comes to each person should have full rights whom they interact with, and I honestly think someone like MLK jr is as violent as it gets. I'm not for splitting people up against their will but pushing them together is just as wrong. Esp when using a 3rd party with the gun.

Every culture is amazing and should be recorded and treasured even if failed/failing. Many groups don't do writing we need to learn and record it, I admit I'm kinda closed minded, but I kinda dig some cultures that don't leave a lasting mark. I think as tech advances if you live in the obdobodo tribe, hold a iphone up and sing your people's song, youre people will live 1000 years at least more. We are so lucky the europeans were book nerds.

tl;dr

Call me a racist I see groups differently but judge people fairly and want to save all history.
 
A few people have made a similar point but il throw in my two cents. Risk aversion is one of the most intrinsic characteristics to any animal including humans. Think about it this way there are 4 early humans walking past a bush on 4 different days when they hear a noise coming from the bush and they act as follows

Human 1 hears a noise and runs away and lives to procreate. Turns out it was just the wind that rattled the bush.

Human 2 hears a noise and does not run away but also lives to procreate. Turns out it was just the wind that rattled the bush.

Human 3 hears a noise and runs away and lives to procreate. Turns out there was a predator in the bush and running away saved his life.

Human 4 hears a noise and does not run away and is killed by the predator in the bush he does not get to procreate.

Repeat this ad infinitum and for every human that does not run away and lives you get 2 humans that do. This same illustration can also be applied to other more modern contexts like walking down dark alleys or interactions with groups that are known to commit more crime. Does that make you a racist well it depends on who you ask.

As for the idea of racial superiority I think its more of a Hollywood trope more than a serious opinion held by more than a handful of people. The criteria for what makes the "ideal" person that every other group would be compared against would be subjective and i don't see how you could get any type of consensus whatsoever. Some might point to IQ but then again IQ is just one metric that attempts to describe a very complex subject so I think that by itself it paints an incomplete picture.
 
Fangsofjeff dijo:
How do you define race, anyways? I mean, groups of people with the same skin color often consider themselves different and are bigoted towards each other despite their similar genes.
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It's common amongst different African tribes and social groups. Look what happened with the Hutu and Tutsi people. There are differences that outsiders can't always see.

But here in 'Murrica (fuck yeah) things are usually more black and white.
 
Doc Cassidy dijo:
you were mugged by a black so now just to be on the safe side you simply avoid them whenever possible like moving to the other side of the street or refusing to hire one
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That sounds more like PTSD and the person experiencing it should seek counselling
 
Senior Lexmechanic dijo:
1. Culture is not genetic, as much as Americans who go on about how they're totally Irish because of 23andMe test results. It arises from social debate, interaction with other cultures, the accumulation of individual actions, and the environment in which a culture exists. It is true that some prosocial behaviors are biologically dictated, but acting like the only options are BIOTRUTHS or fairy-tale nonsense is a gross oversimplification of a complex issue. Furthermore the races are not so biologically different that the drastic differences between Japanese, English, Persian, and Mali society can be explained by pointing to some difference in the brain, unless you are engaged in motivated reasoning. In America, the fact that almost every "problem" ethnic minority is heavily mixed-race makes the argument, for example, that blacks are innately criminal even harder to support.
2. "Western Culture" is such a vague term as to be meaningless. Please define what you mean by "Western Culture" and I could try to explain why I think certain ideas developed the way they did, but I thoroughly reject the idea that purely biological factors led to them.
3. This is likely due to the fact that society, for good or ill, tends to define ethnic minorities as ethnic minorities first and foremost, especially in certain geographical areas.
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Not that racism should ever be justified, but what I think why people go to that lengths is how racism is just becoming normal in both outrage culture and communities. A lot of bubblefolk, despite their claims of wanting more diversity, have never even stepped out of their boundaries. Ya have white girls hating on guys, white guys hating on minorities, minorities hating on whites, etc. It pretty much depends on the environment you're in...
 
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