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but can't you ignore the politics and enjoy the place in its own right? It's really beautiful ngl.

Lol. You've never been there.It's really beautiful ngl.
Crackheads will make that noise at any time of day. Heard it myself when hiking about 2 hours south of Portland. Decided to go no further on that trail, and fortunately I didn't since it led to a huge hobo camp that my friend later said was full of fentanyl, needles, and literal shit.One odd thing about Portland is when the sun goes down people just start screaming like wild animals all through the night. Get a high up hotel room.
Transplant leeches like ADF are exactly why Portland has turned into such a shit hole.It's ironic that Phil ("ADF") chose to settle down there, presumably looking for a safe place to live.
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They're so overrated. Their popularity is mostly from marketing and image, and recent "locals" thinking they're being loyally Portlandese by gassing them up so much. I like the little voodoo doll donuts because they're cute and raspberry-filled, but their dough is way too sweet.Also Voodoo Donuts fucking suck.
Anything could always be worse.It could be worse.