Is leaving the US even worth it?

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Ingmar Aspergman

Ingmar Aspergman

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Disregarding the enormous and expensive pain-in-the-ass moving continents would be, is becoming an American expat even worth it? I don’t see a future for the US and the list of viable options are increasingly slim. The Baltics seem like a decent choice but even their future is on thin ice (I checked out some expat Facebook groups and there were multiple Jeets announcing they plan to overstay their visas lol). I just worry about missing the boat or just fucking my whole life up before it even begins. I read about people becoming miserable when failing to integrate but I have no idea if that would affect me as I already feel like a foreigner here.
 
If you do leave the US and are a US citizen, you'll be required to pay income tax while abroad if you want to ever visit unless you renounce your US citizenship.

Whether or not it's worth it is up to you. Do you have family in other countries? Look at those first. But if you do leave, don't look back.

Also please link the jeets bragging about overstaying there visas
 
The US is literally the epicenter of everything happening in the world and everyone still relies on it economically, racially, and culturally. It's in decline, but it's not anywhere near as bad as some other places. Unless you're renouncing US citizenship and moving to Thailand to teach English, just go outside and touch grass

Also you saying the baltics is somewhere to go is so retarded. All the youth in the baltics want to go to Western Europe. There are no jobs there. Latvia has one of the worst purchasing power rates on the continent.
 
I'm not American, but the US is an incredibly large country. As $current_year-depressing as things are in general, surely there's at least a state (or smaller locale) that will be a better fit than wherever you're in right now? Without having to become an immigrant in a foreign country I mean.

Ingmar Aspergman dijo:
I don’t see a future for the US
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I'm not very fond of the USA personally, plus I'm a doomer in general, but even I would argue that that statement is a bit of an exaggeration.
 
Evil Whitey dijo:
If you do leave the US and are a US citizen, you'll be required to pay income tax while abroad if you want to ever visit unless you renounce your US citizenship.

Whether or not it's worth it is up to you. Do you have family in other countries? Look at those first. But if you do leave, don't look back.

Also please link the jeets bragging about overstaying there visas
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The income tax issue can be largely mitigated (or at the very least minimized) because there are tax breaks for that, but it requires a decent amount of annoying paperwork when you file.
 
Hypercop dijo:
This question comes off as insanely internet/social media-brained. Like what the fuck do you mean, options in the US are slim?
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I sort of know what they mean. Here's the thing, everytime you have one extreme, the pendulum swings in the other direction. I am not a Trump fan, however I prefer him to an extreme Liberal--which I worry will happen in the next election. The paranoid person in me worries they will turn the US into a free-for-all when it comes to all things Muslims. I hate Muslims. I agree with Null on this. I'm not a Jewtard, however I genuinely, seriously worry the US is going to go Michigan or Minnesota. If you want to call me a retard and argue why I am, I am all ears. I seriously mean that. I WANT to be proven wrong, because it worries the shit of me for my family. I can't afford to move to Poland or a place where worshiping a pedo is not okay.
 
America:
If you're in the middle class-upper middle class-rich brackets
If you want to work or make tons of money on the cutting edge in most high tech, financial, manufacturing, commercial, most fields which there jobs and money for.
If you want to continue to make money and be active in the game as an ultrarich person

Europe:
If you are poor-working class-brackets. Particularly if you don't want to work.
if you are ultrarich who are rich enough to evade the bureaucratic tangle and want a leisurely life with places to go shopping and sightseeing.

third world:
If you have a decent amount of wealth and are looking to stretch it without making much in the future.
If you want to play the game of possibly having an easier time getting women or getting shanked by catfishers.
If you have some connections or the opportunity to make lots of money helping the country play catch up.

China: If you are chinese and want to make a lot of money stealing/transferring tech back home.
 
I would consider China, Singapore, or Thailand. They're all good countries that don't murder children for fun. NATO and Russia are ZOGged even harder than the US and South America is a CIA torture pinata. China's probably the best bet because they have an actual coherent government that actually works for its citizens by doing things like removing jews. China's also surprisingly welcome to expats as long as they try to learn the language and customs, much more welcoming than somewhere like SK or Japan.
 
SleeplessEcho dijo:
I'm not American, but the US is an incredibly large country. As $current_year-depressing as things are in general, surely there's at least a state (or smaller locale) that will be a better fit than wherever you're in right now? Without having to become an immigrant in a foreign country I mean.
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This. OP should move to Alaska or Louisiana swamp or somewhere like that. USA is so big that it can't all be awful, just find some nice corner and ignore the rest of the country. Almost every white country at this point has big cities run by communists and being filled with "diversity" and the only option is to find some livable spot and hope your country gets divided like Yugoslavia within the next 50 years.
 
You wishing to leave.
My uncle is trying hard to keep his green visa and getting the nationality.

You are truly a ungrateful bastard.
 
GGSurvivor dijo:
The US is literally the epicenter of everything happening in the world and everyone still relies on it economically, racially, and culturally. It's in decline, but it's not anywhere near as bad as some other places. Unless you're renouncing US citizenship and moving to Thailand to teach English, just go outside and touch grass
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literally this. just don't leave the US, in the very best case you'll just be trading one set of problems for another, and that exchange usually comes out worse for you as an individual. and that's before you even account for the brutal friction that comes with incorporating yourself into another country's society; expats commonly say it takes years before you even start to actually feel comfortable living in another country.

Ingmar Aspergman dijo:
I don’t see a future for the US
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bro lmao this is the most internet-brained take possible. what is reasonably going to happen to America? do you think we're going to collapse overnight due to brownoid invasion or something? America is the most powerful country in the world and it's not even close. yes China arguably has more economic power based on blah blah whatever, they're literally a client state just like Israel. America owns, chill the fuck out, society will never be perfect, life will never be easy. consume borgor and drive your F-350 around on the glorious interstate highway system.
 
Okay so, behind the post because you probably disagree with everything politically aside (I'm guessing). I've sat and imagined as to where else I could be than the US and I'm having difficulty figuring where. It just feels like everywhere else in the world, are one-speed or two-speed at best. America is multi-geared. There's a plethora of things to enjoy.

Hate one state? Fuck that state, go to another, I've done it twice in my life. Hate an entire country though? You're only hopping cities and continents, still under the same umbrella. Going to different states is like going to another country at times, that's the flavor of the USA.

The problem largely resides people getting too entangled politically, that it robs them what enjoyment that could still be there. Might be hard to circumvent than others, but still is true for another.
 
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