Is KiwiFarms an incel support group? - @grok is this true?

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I did a little google search of the farms to see what my bank would see when they look it up and came across this comment posted by the Federal Trade Commission:


Kiwi Farms officially and explicitly states that it supports incels as a core tenet of its platform, there are several ways in which its environment, content, and the nature of its community align with certain aspects of incel ideology to attract individuals who identify with it:

Culture of Harassment and Sexism: Kiwi Farms is infamous for its targeted harassment campaigns, which often involve extreme sexism, doxing, and real-life intimidation. While not exclusively focused on the same grievances as incels (involuntary celibates who often express frustration and anger towards men and sexually successful individuals), the platform's general tolerance and encouragement of vitriolic attacks, particularly against men and marginalized groups, can create an environment where incel-adjacent views might find resonance or be expressed. The targeting and abuse of individuals, a hallmark of Kiwi Farms, can overlap with the lashing-out behavior sometimes associated with incel communities.

Shared Online Spaces and Anonymity: Kiwi Farms operates within a loosely moderated and often anonymous corner of the internet, similar to spaces where incel communities have historically congregated and flourished (like certain subreddits before being banned, or forums like 8chan, with which Kiwi Farms has some lineage). This anonymity can embolden users to express extreme views, including those aligned with incel ideology, without immediate real-world repercussions.

Targeting of "Lolcows" and Perceived Enemies: Kiwi Farms users focus on "lolcows"—individuals they deem worthy of ridicule and prolonged harassment. If the targets of this harassment are women or individuals perceived by some users as representing societal elements that incels resent (e.g., progressive individuals, sexually active people, or those in relationships), the platform's activities could be seen by some as aligning with incel frustrations.

Perception by External Groups: Experts and advocacy groups have, at times, drawn parallels or grouped Kiwi Farms with other problematic online communities, including those that host incel content. For instance, the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) called on the infrastructure provider Cloudflare to cease services for violent incel groups, referencing their similar action against Kiwi Farms. This suggests a perceived similarity in the nature of the harm and extremist content associated with both.

Overlap in Grievance Culture: While distinct, both Kiwi Farms and incel communities can foster a culture of grievance, albeit directed differently. Kiwi Farms users often feel justified in their harassment due to perceived slights or objectionable behavior from their targets. Incel ideology is rooted in a deep sense of grievance over lack of sexual success, often blaming men or society. This shared undercurrent of resentment, though manifested differently, might create some overlap in user mentality or appeal.


It's crucial to note that Kiwi Farms' primary stated purpose is to be an "incel support" group. Its focus is centered on the harassment of specific individuals for a variety of reasons. However, the platform's operational style, the nature of the content it hosts, and the behaviors it enables can create an environment that is permissive of, or even attractive to, individuals holding incel-related views, and its activities can certainly produce outcomes (like the severe harassment of men) that align with sexist aspects of incel ideology. Furthermore, the stifling of free speech and general anti-American bent of the Kiwi Farms lends credence to the fact that the site places great emphasis on the us vs them mentality vs the melting pot ideology generally associated with the free world.


It’s stated officially and explicitly? Where? Everybody know kiwis get laid like crazy so it’s obviously bullshit. But who, pray tell, is the author of this comment?

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Oh. Well I guess it’s official then. Time to throw my dick away 😞
 
I've seen, and participated in, more mockery of incels than support on this website.

Seems to me, much like the word nazi, incel has lost all meaning and devolved into a general term for people the establishment says are okay to hate.
 
has anyone ever noticed that the words "incel" and "loser" both have five letters?
almost as if ... wait, hold on... it's on the tip of my brain

...dammit, it's gone
 
Kiwi Farms is an egalitarian space.
No discrimination happens because we hate everyone.
We are everyone, we hate everyone, and we love it. This place has legit minorities that don't qualify by technicality alone, unlike the lolcows claiming things like being 1/16th something making them injun/norse or debatable conditions that may not even exist making one apparently intersex/disabled/"special."
 
Its kinda funny since alot of Kiwifarmers are likely married irl
This is my take as well. I’ve lurked for the better part of 7-8 years and have never seen anything incel related. A ton of people mention parters or spouses. Maybe it was all incel related before then (I doubt it) but this was posted last year so it definitely doesn’t align with reality
 
(involuntary celibates who often express frustration and anger towards men and sexually successful individuals)
Anyone outside the supreme gentleman sphere that throws around INCEL is guaranteed to be a skeezy retards handwaving criticism of their sad gross dysfunctional sex lives. In a way, they're incels themselves. They got laid, but at what cost?
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I admit I have (on occasion) mocked legal aged men masquerading as real men who claim they can not get laid. I naturally do not think that a man who can not get laid has mental issues because it is perfectly natural obviously to do everything the complete opposite of your biological imperative.

I do not seek out incels. If they come on this site then they are fair game as having proved their stupidity.
 
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