Is identifying as an addict a choice? - Alcoholics Anonymous May Be For Atheists

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Sounds like faggot shit to me.
Waaaah waaaaah. You're an incoherent sperg throwing a tantrum because you can't articulate a point. Had anything to drink today?

Where does this even come from except media portrayals of addiction and pop psychology?
Experience and having known addicts, obviously. You seem to be the one pulling your thoughts from Wittgeinstein and TV shows. I didn't make reference to any of that shit. My points explain themselves.
 
Experience and having known addicts, obviously. You seem to be the one pulling your thoughts from Wittgeinstein and TV shows. I didn't make reference to any of that shit. My points explain themselves.
So you're saying that sentiments such as: "it's just one drink, I can handle it at this point," or "I just need to take the edge off a little bit, I won't lose myself to it like I did before. I'm better now." or the very concept of "relapse" are just naturally part of Man? We just so happen to discover this pathology in the 20th/21st century because we're smarter or something? They aren't socially constructed in the slightest? I did one quote from Wittgenstein in the OP and I'm pulling from a single TV show to argue that a lot of the typology of addiction *is* socially constructed.
 
Waaaah waaaaah. You're an incoherent sperg throwing a tantrum because you can't articulate a point. Had anything to drink today?


Experience and having known addicts, obviously. You seem to be the one pulling your thoughts from Wittgeinstein and TV shows. I didn't make reference to any of that shit. My points explain themselves.
Your autism is showing, friend. You should have a drink to help you relax.
 
This is the nastiest trap that they keep selling us all, by the way. Regardless if you're an addict or if you generally have a habit you want or need to quit.

I don't know if there is a name for this yet, but it's a common way to lock someone in a perpetual loop of self-sabotage, guilt, and just overall delusion about one's habits. Which is why AA and other adjacent "therapy" groups (legitimate psychotherapy business is included, that's where this comes from) are borderline cults, operate like cults, or straight up actually belong to a cult.

This basically programs your mind to discard all the progress and further identify with being a failure, which, if you're young, spreads to other aspects of your life and basically nourishes OCD in people. Made a mistake? Nothing you have done prior to that matters. Start over. If you slip again, you're a failure. Doesn't matter that instead of being a chronic alcoholic drinking on a daily basis you're now getting drunk once a year, it's not progress, you're a failure. Ignore that life doesn't work that way, enjoy your newly developed neurosis which is totally on your faulty bRaiN ChEmIstRy and not our tactics to break and dumbify people further.

Practically everyone understands that NoFap or "Fight The New Drug" are ineffective.
By the way, these are ineffective for the same reason I have described above. Not only none of this addresses the root issue, it's also just a new type of neurosis that makes relapses ten times worse every time.

An AA member who has not had a drink in 40 years has probably defeated his habits. However, its probably because he is mindful of the dangers of alcohol.
Not really. Every single addict I know is fully aware of dangers of substances they take. They're also fully aware that addictions caused them health issues, one of my ex-friends would constantly rant about stuff caused by weed and other stuff he would occasionally take and even share studies he found. Did it stop him from taking it? No. Not at all.
 
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