Is God Sagittarius A*? - The evidence may surprise you

[MagneticTowels]

Think about it. Compare it to the descriptions of God in the Bible:
God is "a consuming fire" who lives on a "holy mountain".
Sagittarius A* looks like a mound or mountain viewed from the front, and it's surrounded by an unbelievably hot accretion disk.

God "resides in darkness" covered with clouds... but is also bright enough to replace the Sun.
Sagittarius A* is surrounded by galactic clouds and is a black sphere in space which is also bright enough to be seen from Earth.

God says “You cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” (Exodus 33:20).
You cannot see past Sagittarius A*'s event horizon, nor can you go anywhere near it without being destroyed.

God is immortal, invincible, and was not created; He was always there.
How long will Sagittarius A* exist? Can you think of a way to destroy it? How do you think it was created?

God is surrounded by angels at all times.
Stars and angels are the same thing.
Sagittarius A* is surrounded by its own orbiting cluster of stars.

God is associated with the Monad symbol.
What does the Monad look like? A black hole with a visible singularity.

God is the "All-Seeing Eye".
A black hole acts like a 360-degree camera.

God is omniscient.
Black holes store an unfathomable amount of data on their surfaces. (Event Horizon Holography)

One day to God is a thousand years to us.
Black holes distort space and time.

Following this logic, everything else comes together perfectly.

Eden, The King of Tyre and The Heavenly City would be space stations.
Eden: a safe sandbox for creating carbon-based lifeforms.
The King of Tyre: a space station destroyed by Sagittarius A*,
and The Heavenly City: siphons energy from The Black Hole.

Satan "leading Earth astray" would be literal. Maybe Earth originally orbited Sagittarius A*, and Satan was one of the stars orbiting The Black Hole.
However, something humans triggered on Eden caused Satan to be flung out of The Black Hole's orbit, and it captured the Earth.

"Sin entering the world" would be literal. Sin is the name of a Mesopotamian moon god.
What if the Moon is not supposed to be in our skies, and only began after Earth was captured by the rogue star Satan?

"The Bottomless Pit" and "Death and Hades" would be black holes.
Our sun will fall into a black hole, while the Book of Life would be the information written on the Death and Hades black holes.

"The New Heaven and New Earth" would be when Earth is returned to its rightful place orbiting Sagittarius A*.

"Hell" would be what happens when you fall into an accretion disk. You would burn up, and time would stretch into infinity.

The other planets in the Solar System would not just be named after gods; they would be the false gods of the Bible.

Finally, is this the Voice of God?

 

[Elf Supremacist]

This is cool and all, but instead of schizoposting please start writing science fiction. I would love to read it (even though your post is heresy and anti-biblical)

 

[Meriasek]

God isn't Sagittarius A*, but He is the singularity at the center of the universe, a white hole that is actually in a higher spatial dimension since the universe doesn't have a defined center in our currently known three spatial dimensions. Since the Throne of God is supposed to reside in the tenth Heaven according to the second book of Enoch, it is likely in a tenth dimension.
God is the center of creation and the origin of all, so the opposite of a black hole, ie a white hole. In a black hole the event horizon traps everything from returning back, in a white hole it is impossible to pass beyond it, and a white hole permanently emits matter. God is transcendent and cannot be grasped or seen except from a distance as to hide any significant knowledge about Him, so while both black and white hole event horizons could fit here, a white hole metric makes more sense as with a black hole metric it is in principle possible to go within the event horizon, you just can't return and tell about it. A white hole cannot be entered, and God cannot be seen.
From observation we see that the universe is expanding uniformly in all directions. Imagine dots on a ballon that is being inflated, the all move away from each other, but there is not point of origin on the balloon surface, ie the dots move away from each other on a two-dimensional plane, but a common center is only in the third dimension. So this universe has a center not in the three dimensions, but in some higher dimension. It stands to reason that it has a center with the fourth dimension of time being added, but as the Bible describes Ten Heavens, I'd wager that four dimensions are not actually enough to fully define the center.
Thank you for coming to my Schizotedtalk.

 

[cigint]

A black hole acts like a 360-degree camera.

You're gonna have to explain your meaning a little, because I would say it's almost nothing like any camera.

 

[[VΩiD] SoKAftH]

Ever heard of Kolob?

 

[Cnidarian]

You're gonna have to explain your meaning a little, because I would say it's almost nothing like any camera.

Black holes collect information from every possible direction for "storage". Like always, this is a case of physicists using a familiar word as the name of a loosely related fundamental process, like anything ever happening being "work" in thermodynamics, or anything ever happening being "observation" in quantum physics. This is observation in the quantum sense, all information about anything that enters is now part of the black hole's information, and you observe anything in the same sense, to a less extreme extent, just by living in the consequences of their existence. You are observing everything happening in your room because all the types of energy that you'd use to sense them are bouncing into your body, even if they're not being picked up by the senses that are dedicated to them. That's not woo, I'm talking about sound, light, and heat.

You intuited that this comparison was still nonsensical, a consumer good used for creating permanent records of physical events is nothing like a star that doesn't emit light, that's because a camera is supposed to release its trapped information in a form that is usable to humans. A black hole is the worst possible thing for doing this because letting nothing out is the whole point of a black hole. Information inside of it is totally useless. Let's talk about something else that is unlike a camera: mud. Mud can show tracks, the weather, geological history, this makes it a better camera than a black hole.

This is one of the many reasons why Sagittarius A* and similar astronomical objects isn't anything like a god. Something has to do something in order to be a "real" god instead of an object of superstition, and black holes can't do anything more complicated than exist, they have even less agency in the universe's history than the everyday random inanimate matter that you regularly interact with, which may accidentally or intentionally be used by something or even participate in a natural cycle that would allow it to eventually become part of the matter of a living being. Black holes have a godlikeness close to absolute zero instead of the regular zero that you'd assign to the dirt under your feet.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Non serviam

 

[VM_]

Sounds like the hidden god concept, similar to "Tzimtzum" in the Jewish Kabbalah tradition, the beginning empty void that's a prerequisite for creation.

Are you a true believer in this supposed god's great work?

 

[Cooked Rabbit]

This is a great post! I'll attempt to expand it.

The power of Sagittarius A binds the entire galaxy together. Its power affects everything in the universe (gravity is infinite in reach). There is at least one kind of omnipotence at work here. Because its singularity is infinitely dense, it may be said to contain all within it, perhaps even a perfect representation of our universe, while simultaneously existing as a bounded point in the universe, which could explain why theologians believe God is in everything or everything in God, yet the Bible describes God as existing "in Heaven" (incidentally, how many Christians would tell their children that God exists beyond the orbit of the Moon, as Jesus instructs us to say in The Lord's Prayer?). It also doesn't seem implausible to me that the immense quantity of information a black hole contains, combined with the distortion of space-time, could provide an entity existing within a black hole, or the black hole itself, to manipulate events beyond its event horizon in ways not understood by current physics. Hence miracles.

Some Christians believe in universal salvation, whereby all will eventually return to God. This seems superficially difficult to square with the verses talking about an "outer darkness" lasting forever, but if we interpret the darkness and lake of fire as both referring to a black hole, as the OP suggested, that would indeed be a form of return to God.

Sounds like the hidden god concept, similar to "Tzimtzum" in the Jewish Kabbalah tradition, the beginning empty void that's a prerequisite for creation.

Are you a true believer in this supposed god's great work?

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I've heard the concept explained as "hiding in plain sight." How fitting would it not be for the hidden God to be the brightest light in our galaxy, around which we all revolve?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Deep thunk

 

[TenMilesWide]

Black holes collect information from every possible direction for "storage". Like always, this is a case of physicists using a familiar word as the name of a loosely related fundamental process, like anything ever happening being "work" in thermodynamics, or anything ever happening being "observation" in quantum physics. This is observation in the quantum sense, all information about anything that enters is now part of the black hole's information, and you observe anything in the same sense, to a less extreme extent, just by living in the consequences of their existence. You are observing everything happening in your room because all the types of energy that you'd use to sense them are bouncing into your body, even if they're not being picked up by the senses that are dedicated to them. That's not woo, I'm talking about sound, light, and heat.

You intuited that this comparison was still nonsensical, a consumer good used for creating permanent records of physical events is nothing like a star that doesn't emit light, that's because a camera is supposed to release its trapped information in a form that is usable to humans. A black hole is the worst possible thing for doing this because letting nothing out is the whole point of a black hole. Information inside of it is totally useless. Let's talk about something else that is unlike a camera: mud. Mud can show tracks, the weather, geological history, this makes it a better camera than a black hole.

This is one of the many reasons why Sagittarius A* and similar astronomical objects isn't anything like a god. Something has to do something in order to be a "real" god instead of an object of superstition, and black holes can't do anything more complicated than exist, they have even less agency in the universe's history than the everyday random inanimate matter that you regularly interact with, which may accidentally or intentionally be used by something or even participate in a natural cycle that would allow it to eventually become part of the matter of a living being. Black holes have a godlikeness close to absolute zero instead of the regular zero that you'd assign to the dirt under your feet.

Sounds like the hidden god concept, similar to "Tzimtzum" in the Jewish Kabbalah tradition, the beginning empty void that's a prerequisite for creation.

Are you a true believer in this supposed god's great work?

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This talk is all reminding me of Fullmetal Alchemist again.
God is all of the information that is or could be - Truth itself, reflected in all things.
The black hole isn't God because it's only 'all of the information it has consumed' and not 'all of the information that is or could be' - it wants to be God, but in its quest to take in everything and never let go it renders that information inert. Perhaps if some supermassive black hole at the end of time manages to hoover up the last errant bits of reality and then explode, then it'll be God, but not until then.
I want to put that Tzimtzum fella in a flask and make him teach me to make philosopher stones. I'll call him Mercurius, we'll be pals.

 

[Cooked Rabbit]

Never mind, I take what I said back. The post was stolen from Reddit. Boo, make your own schizo theories.

 

[MagneticTowels]

Never mind, I take what I said back. The post was stolen from Reddit. Boo, make your own schizo theories.

Or maybe it wasn't, and I don't only use this forum...

 

[Cnidarian]

Never mind, I take what I said back. The post was stolen from Reddit. Boo, make your own schizo theories.

/r/SaturnStormCube disproves the belief that schizophrenics are instantly interesting or creative.

 

[Overly Serious]

God isn't Sagittarius A*, but He is the singularity at the center of the universe, a white hole that is actually in a higher spatial dimension since the universe doesn't have a defined center in our currently known three spatial dimensions. Since the Throne of God is supposed to reside in the tenth Heaven according to the second book of Enoch, it is likely in a tenth dimension.
God is the center of creation and the origin of all, so the opposite of a black hole, ie a white hole. In a black hole the event horizon traps everything from returning back, in a white hole it is impossible to pass beyond it, and a white hole permanently emits matter. God is transcendent and cannot be grasped or seen except from a distance as to hide any significant knowledge about Him, so while both black and white hole event horizons could fit here, a white hole metric makes more sense as with a black hole metric it is in principle possible to go within the event horizon, you just can't return and tell about it. A white hole cannot be entered, and God cannot be seen.
From observation we see that the universe is expanding uniformly in all directions. Imagine dots on a ballon that is being inflated, the all move away from each other, but there is not point of origin on the balloon surface, ie the dots move away from each other on a two-dimensional plane, but a common center is only in the third dimension. So this universe has a center not in the three dimensions, but in some higher dimension. It stands to reason that it has a center with the fourth dimension of time being added, but as the Bible describes Ten Heavens, I'd wager that four dimensions are not actually enough to fully define the center.
Thank you for coming to my Schizotedtalk.

That's a lovely little bit of schizoposting but unfortunately every time I read the term "White Hole" I immediately hear Arnold Rimmer say: "A white hole?"

 

[Meriasek]

That's a lovely little bit of schizoposting but unfortunately every time I read the term "White Hole" I immediately hear Arnold Rimmer say: "A white hole?"

It's a big problem in the astrophysics community and the main reason why research into white holes isn't taken seriously.

 

[Male Idiot]

Good schizo, christianity is for goys and mutts and subhumans.

The black hole is YAKUB.