Is gender identity real?

[GolgoXIII]

Personally, something that I like to believe is that sexuality doesn't really exist. You can be straight, and still desire to have sex with someone of the same gender.

But gender identity? I'm not sure about that. I think that gender is a physical aspect of a person's identity, but defining it as more than that oversimplifies certain aspects of identity itself and places a much larger emphasis on how a person's physical appearance (more importantly, their genitalia) affects their overall identity than is probably healthy.

 

[WW 635]

No

Babe, you have to understand that girls need bathroom stuff, like lotions and body scrubs. It wouldn't seem like so much to you if we just had another shelf to put my things on.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

gender is just the combined sum of a person's hobbies and interests.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Positron]

Gender identity is as real as the mayonnaise I put on my sandwich -- and matters just as much to the rest of the world.

 

[Zababa]

Gender identity was just an easy term decades ago to describe sex dysphoria to the general population. You don't "identify" as a gender any more than you identify as a race or a sexuality. You just have those traits.

 

[neverendingmidi]

Gender identity was just an easy term decades ago to describe sex dysphoria to the general population. You don't "identify" as a gender any more than you identify as a race or a sexuality. You just have those traits.

Might want to talk to ADF or Rachel Dolezal about that...

 

[Positron]

Gender identity was just an easy term decades ago to describe sex dysphoria to the general population. You don't "identify" as a gender any more than you identify as a race or a sexuality. You just have those traits.

Worse is the term "assigned": you're not assigned a gender; you're just born with one.

Even the medical establishment is guilty of this misconception: the notion of "gender reassignment" is ridiculous because you cannot logically "reassign" something that wasn't "assigned" in the first place.

 

[Zababa]

Worse is the term "assigned": you're not assigned a gender; you're just born with one.

I can see the validity of the term assigned gender for ambiguous intersex babies, particularly in cases where they perform SRS. Otherwise it's a load of horseshit. Honestly the trans activist side of the community is so busy trying to keep up with PC language that they don't bother thinking about what's logical or useful to the people they're trying to help.

 

[Male Idiot]

Worse is the term "assigned": you're not assigned a gender; you're just born with one.

Even the medical establishment is guilty of this misconception: the notion of "gender reassignment" is ridiculous because you cannot logically "reassign" something that wasn't "assigned" in the first place.

Even GodJesus can not resist a little trolling once in a while.

 

[AnOminous]

Worse is the term "assigned": you're not assigned a gender; you're just born with one.

Even the medical establishment is guilty of this misconception: the notion of "gender reassignment" is ridiculous because you cannot logically "reassign" something that wasn't "assigned" in the first place.

Terms for troon-related shit have to change constantly because they're constantly changing their minds about what triggers them into spastic fits of retardation.

 

[Pepsi-Cola]

It's really no coincidence that a lot of transsexuals were raised without much of a father figure, they never really had any major male role-model to teach them how to be men. With no real father figure to imprint on, they just sort of copy their mothers. This leads them to be effeminate little faggots, and instead of learning how to live with that adversity they transition into fake-women to escape their problems.

Not to say that all trannies are like this, or that all males with little to no father figure are like this, it's just a trend I've noticed.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Terms for troon-related shit have to change constantly because they're constantly changing their minds about what triggers them into spastic fits of exceptionalism.

That sounds like OCD and neuroticism just viewed through gender-related socialization.

 

[Argonian Scum]

That sounds like OCD and neuroticism just viewed through gender-related socialization.

No, it's all very deliberate. By constantly changing the rules and making things impossible to understand, trannies and rat kings become the sole authority on what is and isn't twansphobic. It's no different than a cult leader passing down interpretations of scripture that only they can read in order to get what they want from the congregation.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

No, it's all very deliberate. By constantly changing the rules and making things impossible to understand, trannies and rat kings become the sole authority on what is and isn't twansphobic. It's no different than a cult leader passing down interpretations of scripture that only they can read in order to get what they want from the congregation.

I totally agree, but I think it's an unintended benefit brought about by mental illness, which has nothing to do with the feeling of being born in the wrong body.

 

[Zababa]

No, it's all very deliberate. By constantly changing the rules and making things impossible to understand, trannies and rat kings become the sole authority on what is and isn't twansphobic. It's no different than a cult leader passing down interpretations of scripture that only they can read in order to get what they want from the congregation.

I would say it's deliberate but for a different reason. Every single word or expression in the trans community that gets targeted seems to be stuff that differentiates them from non-dysphoric people. It's an active attempt to silence trans people that want to have their own community without getting co-opted by genderqueer trigender demisapiopansexual girls who don't want to transition.
I mean stuff like the term transsexual getting replaced by the "transgender umbrella" where nobody can agree on what it means, deeming the phrase "woman born in a man's body" problematic because "not all trans people feel that way"
Transsexuality is the cool oppressed club right now so SJ types want in and erasing differences between them and actual trannies is how they do it.

 

[D.Va]

Personally, something that I like to believe is that sexuality doesn't really exist. You can be straight, and still desire to have sex with someone of the same gender.

But gender identity? I'm not sure about that. I think that gender is a physical aspect of a person's identity, but defining it as more than that oversimplifies certain aspects of identity itself and places a much larger emphasis on how a person's physical appearance (more importantly, their genitalia) affects their overall identity than is probably healthy.

Sexuality is definitely more fluid than people tend to believe, and in modern times terms like heterosexuality/homosexuality don't carry the weight anymore. Of course now it's resulted in genderspecials declaring themselves to be pan/demisexual/ace, etc, but I don't buy that. I've come to the conclusion that sexuality is really no different to a fetish.

Especially demisexuality which isn't a sexuality by definition. You like to build a relationship with someone before wanting to fuck them. Good for you. Join the club.

 

[AnOminous]

Especially demisexuality which isn't a sexuality by definition. You like to build a relationship with someone before wanting to fuck them. Good for you. Join the club.

No shit. How the fuck is this an orientation? It's a strategy, a life choice.

I could claim so many imaginary SJW identities it's ridiculous.

 

[neverendingmidi]

No shit. How the fuck is this an orientation? It's a strategy, a life choice.

I could claim so many imaginary SJW identities it's ridiculous.

The only opposite I can think of for demisexuality is PUAsexuality.

 

[Mimic]

Demisexuality is not an orientation. It just means a person can think with their head instead of their genitals.

 

[Male Idiot]

Sexuality is definitely more fluid than people tend to believe, and in modern times terms like heterosexuality/homosexuality don't carry the weight anymore. Of course now it's resulted in genderspecials declaring themselves to be pan/demisexual/ace, etc, but I don't buy that. I've come to the conclusion that sexuality is really no different to a fetish.

Especially demisexuality which isn't a sexuality by definition. You like to build a relationship with someone before wanting to fuck them. Good for you. Join the club.

I think there is a marked difference. Fetishes usually get stronger the older you are. Sexual preference on the other hand usually gets weaker. I think this explains why a lot of middle aged men had gay adventures when they got bored of their wives. They did their part in reproduction, now they just wanted to get their dicks in anything.