🐱 Is Cooking Anti-Feminist?

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Much has been said in recent years about the feminist question; about what it means to be a woman in the 21st century, and especially about the anti-feminist connotation.

The pandemic brought on a bout of cleaning. You open the door of your one closet (closet space is at a premium in Brooklyn) and start flinging on the floor a shirt not worn in years, three pairs of trousers that don’t fit, the vintage coat never worn and that dress that has nowhere to go. In between making piles of these stay, this doesn’t, you find a book of recipes purchased when on a fierce campaign to become a cross between Nigella Lawson and Carmen Aboy Valldejuli, with a touch of Julia Child.

The book was bought before the pandemic hit and locked us all up. It hasn’t been read during the long hours of 2020, so it will probably not be read or used at all. And this gets one to thinking: why this quest to be a great cook, to be the next Barefoot Contessa, or Laura Esquivel?

This, on top of everything we do? It begs the question: Is cooking anti-feminist?

For women, food ends up being a political subject. Hillary Clinton learned that the hard way in 1992 when she said — “I suppose I could have stayed home [and] baked cookies” and had hell to pay for it.

Women, and especially working women, are still expected to take on the bulk of the housework. One comes home after winning a major case in court or heading a newsroom to wrestle with a Julia Child recipe, all the while muttering awful things about Julia under one’s breath. Roasting a chicken is not my idea of a wonderful ending to a busy day.

Then why do we do it? Is it eons of training that women can only show their nurturing through cherry pies and casseroles? Is it true that one must win a man through a platter of engagement chicken?

We were told growing up (and I believe other Hispanic women can relate) that a way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. Put a bit more eloquently, here you have a case in point:

“A woman who knows how to compose a soup or a salad that is perfectly harmonious in flavour ought to be clever at mixing together the sweet and harsh elements of a man’s character, and she will understand how to charm and keep forever her husband’s heart and soul.” Berjane, ‘French Dishes for English Tables’ (1931)

The writer Nora Ephron stated that “whenever I get married, I start buying Gourmet magazine.” I can assure you, I didn’t. I was far too busy jumping off helicopters in war zones. I was a huge disappointment, in that department, to the women in my family.

My grandmother was an amazing cook, an army of pots and pans going at the same time, meat sizzling and white rice simmering away. She was the Generalissimo of her kitchen, a stained, dog-eared copy of Cocina Criolla by Dona Carmen Aboy Valldejuli always by her side.

My Mum was also a great cook and seemed to do it all by instinct. It was in her DNA, passed on by my grandmother and all the other women that came before. These women took pride in their cooking and expressed their love via a plate of rice and beans, fried plantains, and sweet mango slices.

I have always seen the kitchen as a sort of a dungeon and relate to the words written by Laura Esquivel in Like Water for Chocolate — “The trouble with crying over an onion is that once the chopping gets you started and the tears begin to well up, the next thing you know you just can’t stop.”

Cooking makes me cry, maybe because I am not very good at it and it makes me feel like I am not complete as a woman. And one tries. If my friends saw me with this red apron stamped with apples, wooden spoon in hand, arguing with Child’s Mastering The Art of French Cooking, they would be shocked.

Did you know it took 50 years to translate that cookbook to Spanish? It’s prologue states that women will not find a better antidote to the rush of the day than taking a quiet look at its pages. Hmmm.

So let’s do that.

Ingredients: roast boneless pork, baked in salt for several hours, if you want. Twelve to 18 white onions of one to one and a half inches in diameter peeled, 12 to 18 small new potatoes peeled and cut into ovals of one and a half inches. Salt and pepper. A founded iron saucepan. Two tablespoons of oil or oil extracted. Julia says that “onions and potatoes absorb a distinctive flavor when they cook with pork in this manner.” And this is just the beginning.

Buy the meat the night before and marinate it with what she calls Marinade Seche — a tablespoon of salt, 1/8 of fresh pepper, 1/4 of thyme or sage, 1/8 of bay leaves, a pinch of all species. Half a garlic — optional. Place it inside the refrigerator. We’re doing fine. Roti by Porc Grand’ Mere — just simply a pork roast with potatoes and onions. How hard can it be?

Well, I’ll tell you, cooking a Julia Child recipe is like running a marathon. It’s like nailing yourself to a culinary cross. It’s work. And this was one of the easiest recipes in the book. Julia was a strong woman and she didn’t panic or get tired.

But we do — it’s enough. I follow Eleanor Roosevelt’s codicil: Those invited to the White House quickly learned a vital rule: eat before you go.
 
I think we as a society need to stop telling women they don't have to cook and start shaming men who think they don't have to.
Should shame both, large numbers of women don't know how to by this point.

I think most men now don't have a stigma but I've met foreign men who think it's unmacho to know how to be cook. Because apparently professional chefs, army cooks, chuck wagon cooks, and the like don't exist. :thinking: Cooking is self-sufficiency which is masculine as hell.
 
To everyone proposing more home ec courses in high school--

Chemistry and biology are mandatory subjects, yet people blather on Facebook about how they're going to get super healthy by turning their blood alkaline by drinking speshul water.

People are like liquid-- they will choose the path of least resistance. We don't need better schools; we need famine.
 
There needs to be a Life Skills course in high school. I honestly believe this. It should be mandatory.

Think a mix of Economics, Shop, Home Ec, etc, all in a crash course.

To graduate, you should have to be able to:

Plan a basic budget.

Do simple household repairs... Plunge and snake drains, fix a leaky faucet, change a doorknob, find a stud, how to fix a drawer or level a wobbly chair, things like that. I can't tell you how much furniture me or my father have pulled out of garbage piles that is perfectly fine save for some minor five or ten minute repair job. Hell, just how to paint a damned piece of wood so it doesn't look like you were painting with a mop. I could practically never buy furniture just by scavenging on the street I live on.

How to sew a button, iron on a patch, fix a torn out pocket, etc. Again: People just get one tiny little problem and they pitch a perfectly good piece of clothing. It's disgusting.

Learn basic cooking techniques. Not following recipes from the internet, you don't need to teach someone how to google "meatloaf recipes". I mean basics, like cutting vegetables and not your fingers. Or fuck, just teach people to make Mac and Cheese. There's almost no excuse for ever buying the boxed stuff. You can make almost exactly the same thing, except better, for not much more money and no more time. Just basic shit, people.
Totally agree. Add in basic auto-repair, too - oil change, tire change, spark plugs, alternator, headlights, battery, brakes and muffler at the very least.

I’ve owned enough clunkers that at this point the only thing on a car I’ve never fixed is a transmission. I don’t think people should be that competant (body work sucks, and so do timing belts), but the amount you can save just by doing your own brakes and spark plugs is ridiculous.

I’d also add “light a pilot light” to your household chores. I had to call my father to walk me through it the first time I did it, and you really don’t want to be holding a phone to your ear right next to a furnace pumping natural gas. :p
 
I can assure you, I didn’t. I was far too busy jumping off helicopters in war zones. I was a huge disappointment, in that department, to the women in my family.
Bitch, if you were tough enough to do that, you can learn to fucking cook.

For fuck's sake.

It's something mankind has been doing since we invented fire, it's not rocket science.
 
Women, especially feminist women, I want you to understand something.

You're absolutely fucking worthless if you can't cook and clean. Never mind the "housewife" shit. If you're some slob with a dozen different delivery joints on speed dial, and if you think this makes you a better person never mind a better woman, you're an absolute fucking dead end in every conceivable way.
 
It's weird. I'm old enough that we had Home Ec and at least ONE quarter of Auto Shop was mandatory no matter what. (It taught how to do basic add/change oil/fluids, pump gas, change a tire, change fuses, put out your emergency flares)

Hell, most guys I know look down on other guys that can't cook, and I'm a fucking redneck. Maybe if you live in the sticks you get used to cooking now and then? Hell, if you don't know how to BBQ then what the fuck, man? What's wrong with you?

I know a lot of my friend's wives did the whole "Imma gonna be a homemaker, fuck feminism" after a while, usually once the kids started showing up, but even then, most of my friends still cook one or two nights a week because it's fun, enjoyable, and beyond setting a good example for the little boys, you gotta know how to cook, man.

It blows me away that someone who "jumped out of helicopters in combat zones" is so fucking helpless that she can't cook a basic bitch recipe like that. Bet she didn't say anything about the fact that most cooks in the military are male, betcha she ate that fucking MRE and those T-Rats like a fucking boss.

Instead, she tries to showcase her incompetence in the fucking kitchen, which a teenage girl from Bumfuck Arkansas could run like a champ, as some kind of feminism and anti-patriarchy. And I know good and damn well that guys in the military fucking cook on the weekends all the time, or at least they did. It's part of not being a helpless loser who eats out of cans like a fucking hobo.

I wonder how many times she fell out of the helicopter if she's this shitty of a cook.
 
I wonder how many times she fell out of the helicopter if she's this shitty of a cook.
Not enough.

There's no fucking excuse. None. This is the glorification of incompetence and laziness and nothing more. My brother is an E-7 with places like Basra and FOB Apache on his list and he can cook pretty damned well. My grandfather was Navy in WW2, he was a SIGNIFICANTLY better cook than my grandmother. You jump out of helicopters? Very cool, little lady. That's a fantastic skill. How well does it translate to civilian life?
 
In some cases, it's people raised by parents (usually mothers) who are neurotic about controlling their kitchen. Weirdly my grandmother never learned to cook, and she was a teenager during WWII, because her mother was an absolute nutcase about children in her kitchen. She ruled the kitchen and there would be no interference.

Grandpa used to joke about how her time management was so out of whack they'd have dessert first (usually made during the afternoon), then the vegetables, then the meat. She got better.
 
For women, food ends up being a political subject.
Only because they made it into one. Natural disasters don't leave as big of a wreck in their paths as pissy, bored women.

Hillary Clinton learned that the hard way in 1992 when she said — “I suppose I could have stayed home [and] baked cookies” and had hell to pay for it.
We already know Hillary pays Hell. She owns a timeshare and vacations there.

I never understand why people think they're being cute and quirky when they say "I can't cook."

As well put up a dating profile that says "I don't know how to brush my teeth."
It's a defense tactic for the anxiety-ridden (autistic) and socially awkward. If you admit your faults and present them as jokes, people will find you "relatable" and talk to you. But it only works for so long. Your friends will grow up, they'll better themselves and come to a point where they separate the trash from the treasure. If you constantly proclaim to be trash, don't bitch and cry when you get taken out to the curb like trash.

I think we as a society need to stop telling women they don't have to cook and start shaming men who think they don't have to.
Why bother? When your very survival is at stake, natural instincts (and inferiority complex) will do it for you. Or your organs will do it when they start to fail from eating fast fried shit and frozen slop. Whichever comes first.
 
Why bother? When your very survival is at stake, natural instincts (and inferiority complex) will do it for you. Or your organs will do it when they start to fail from eating fast fried shit and frozen slop. Whichever comes first.
I don't give a fuck if spoiled parasites survive or not I just want them to live in constant shame for what they are.
 
I don't give a fuck if spoiled parasites survive or not I just want them to live in constant shame for what they are.
This.

I want to see them realize they're nothing but parasites with learned helplessness who are incapable of even eating out of a can like a dirty 1930's hobo and it all come crashing down that in the grand scheme of things, they're less than nothing.
 
I want to see them realize they're nothing but parasites with learned helplessness who are incapable of even eating out of a can like a dirty 1930's hobo and it all come crashing down that in the grand scheme of things, they're less than nothing.
I want to hunt them down with a deer rifle in the decaying ruins of the old world and airdry strips of them into biltongs to feed my family of underground-dwelling humanoid offspring.
 
I must confess, however, that cooking often doesn't necessarily make you a good cook. A grandrelative of mine was fucking epic- went to WW2, commissioned officer in the airforce, a supervising nursing sister in a number of fields of war- she came back home, was sent straight to the kitchen, as all of the serving women were, and was infamously appalling at it. Made glorious pies and cakes, amazing at desserts, but ordinary savoury meals? She cooked three times a day for the rest of her life and only got worse at it.
 
I must confess, however, that cooking often doesn't necessarily make you a good cook. A grandrelative of mine was fucking epic- went to WW2, commissioned officer in the airforce, a supervising nursing sister in a number of fields of war- she came back home, was sent straight to the kitchen, as all of the serving women were, and was infamously appalling at it. Made glorious pies and cakes, amazing at desserts, but ordinary savoury meals? She cooked three times a day for the rest of her life and only got worse at it.
If you can cook simple edible meals from raw ingredients, you're good enough. Not everyone's gonna have an interest or talent in cooking, and there's nothing shameful about that so long as they can get by and feed themselves.

Most of these uppity 'can't cook' yuppies just think they're too good to eat beans and rice or tuna casserole so they live off uber eats.
 
It's the same energy as "who is going to clean the toilets, Donald Trump?"

Worthless people with fake jobs who take pride in being unable to achieve anything but urban parasitism.
 
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