Is a revolution inevitable?

[CowBoyCormack]

Seeing an entire generation of young men being completely disenfranchised,

wages stagnating, inflation rampant, and billionaires literally shoving it in people's faces that they are replacing you with Indians (literally while there are massive layoffs in tech, and an entire generation of zoomers, plus the past generation of millineals are either underemployed as amazon workers or unemployed)

Is a revolution inevitable?

I don't see anything marxist as happening, save perhaps the conditions, but it seems like American billionaires may be unironically creating their own downfall and I just see so many young men becoming disenfranchised with the system as it is. My guess is at best well see a rise of a national socialist movement or conservative socialist/protectionist movement in our lifetimes, but thoughts?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Once they jury nullify his trial, Luigi will get out of jail and become #OurHitler

 

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

No, you won't have a revolution and this would be obvious if you thought about it, you are just being a doomer. Stop watching content from people that tell you that a civil war is coming because inflation is 4% instead of 3%.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

The bread and circuses are abundant, wireless spying devices are ubiquitous, and your group of revolutionaries will be infiltrated by glowies. So nah. There is still plenty of margin to make things even worse and slowly kill off who they want to kill off.

 

[G19]

Please refer to the following:

 

[Hellwalker]

Would a revolution sound nice to a lot of these young men? Yes. Will they actually put in the effort to make it happen? Haha No.

 

[snowdunes]

Would a revolution sound nice to a lot of these young men? Yes. Will they actually put in the effort to make it happen? Haha No.

The "revolution" is pretty much just not putting any effort into anything, resulting in an accelerating decline in quality of life in every aspect of out life. Institutions are coping with mass imigration hoping it will increase quality/go back to what it was (LMAO) and technology/computers replacing or even be "better" than the old workers, which is delusional and a massive resource sink.

 

[BradeRunna]

The vast majority of people are long suffering and pacifistic. So no, a revolution will not happen. Neither will a civil war. The good thing is things are getting worse and more people are being impacted. Things will only change when more people start to feel the effects of the economic decline in the US.

What's going on the US is unsustainable. It can't keep going forever. We would probably see an economic collapse in a decade.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Revolutions rarely fix anything for the lower classes, usually just switching places between middle and upper classes at the cost of a lot of dead people from all stratas. The idea that the west will have a revolution, when half the world wants to immigrate there since life in their own countries is shit, makes the concept laughable.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

You honestly think the pussy youth of today would revolt?
At the very best, it'd be a revolution of staying put and stopping the economy. That's the only thing the elites fear, that the masses would stop participating.
Any kind of frenchie or leninist bullshit is a) easily put down with far superior military weaponry, and b) people have become massive pussies.

 

[conodont]

The revolution doesn't exist and it isn't coming. The idea of a "revolution" is a lie people tell themselves so that they won't improve themselves or make any meaningful change to society, but just expect someone to come and save them. Most of these people are too impulsive to even do passive resistance. It's a way to keep people down so actual change won't happen.

 

[Eschaton Aggravate]

I only see 2 scenario's playing out,

1. Total societal collapse, and following that something of a civil war(can you call it civil war if civilization has collapsed?).

2. Full on dystopian future, take 1984 and brave new world and whatever else seems applicable, put in blender and thrown in your face kind of society, hell on earth.

And after that God nukes the earth in hellfire and pushes reset button or something.

 

[Ser Prize]

No, you won't have a revolution and this would be obvious if you thought about it, you are just being a doomer. Stop watching content from people that tell you that a civil war is coming because inflation is 4% instead of 3%.

We have two generations of people who will never realistically be able to afford a home, all while the job sectors keep shrinking due to importing brown slaves. This is not "oh inflation went up 1 percent lololo" this is "people literally have no future and everyone is aware of it"

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Is a revolution inevitable?

Over a long enough time scale probably, though the powers that be, the giga rich, will do everything in their power to prevent it from happening.

A big part of this is to increasingly fragment society among mostly imaginary identity politics lines in order to prevent them from uniting along class lines.

Another big part is to make everyone in society as self-obsessed and narcissistic as possible, as this also suppresses the self-sacrificing "for the good of the group" behavior typically necessary for a revolution to take place.

Any of this sound familiar?

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

wages stagnating, inflation rampant, and billionaires literally shoving it in people's faces that they are replacing you with Indians (literally while there are massive layoffs in tech, and an entire generation of zoomers, plus the past generation of millineals are either underemployed as amazon workers or unemployed)

Is a revolution inevitable?

These are all reasons for civil unrest, but not necessarily revolution. Riots, protests, spikes in crime? But things aren't so bad that we have the majority of people starving in the streets or anything.

A revolution tends to need a focus and a goal. The modern political system makes that difficult. We've been trained to rather go to the voting booth than take up arms, we don't have a king to revolt against (since we elect a new "leader" every few years), and with such a wide range of political ideas and views it kind hard to say who we're suppose to revolt against except nebulous concepts like the deep state, the politicians, the capitalist system etc. Also I just can't see a violent revolutionary leader to rise up in a western nation and leading the masses in an armed struggle (not just because again life isn't so bad that people are willing to die to change it... yet).

 

[regalterry]

Peope will only consider revolution when their internal calculus tells them they have more to gain from armed insurrection than they have to lose, and we're not there yet, not by a long shot.

Also, as others mentioned, modern technology allows the current elites a degree of control and manipulation that even the most oppressive and draconian tyrants of the past could only dream of.

Plus, even if revolution were to happen, there's no guarantee it would be successful - not only would Whites be divided along ideological lines (with at least 50% siding with the elites and minorities), but would also have to fight the minorities and the state/elites on top of that.

 

[BradeRunna]

These are all reasons for civil unrest, but not necessarily revolution. Riots, protests, spikes in crime? But things aren't so bad that we have the majority of people starving in the streets or anything.

A revolution tends to need a focus and a goal. The modern political system makes that difficult. We've been trained to rather go to the voting booth than take up arms, we don't have a king to revolt against (since we elect a new "leader" every few years), and with such a wide range of political ideas and views it kind hard to say who we're suppose to revolt against except nebulous concepts like the deep state, the politicians, the capitalist system etc. Also I just can't see a violent revolutionary leader to rise up in a western nation and leading the masses in an armed struggle (not just because again life isn't so bad that people are willing to die to change it... yet).

Not yet. That's probably coming soon.

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

Not yet. That's probably coming soon.

I'm rather interested in how bad it need to get before we see large scale mobilization.
I mean sure nobody likes a bunch of immigrants making their neighbourhood shitty, but the most likely response there is anti-immigrant protests, voting for anti-immigration politicians or even small scale violence against immigrants.
No body likes not being ablet to afford eggs but I can hardly imagine anyone willing to go fight and die over it, they'll just bitch about it any maybe vote for a politicians promising to make things better, or at least vote out the politicians who they blame for making it bad.

Revolutions in places like Africa happen because of the largely uneducated population living in horrible conditions being swayed by a militant leader of some kind promising them a better life, and since their lives are already barely worth living the chance for even mild improvement is worth dying for. In western countries things aren't so good, but I still think it's not so bad and not so widespread that anyone will die for it. At least not in a large scale, and that's what a revolution needs. A handful of people say enough is enough and grabbing their guns and shooting up a government building is hardly a revolution.

America is too big and too diverse for a unifying ideology or political view to get people together for a revolution, and not everyone is struggling in the same ways. I just don't think the economy is enough, the Great Depression didn't see the masses rise up and overthrow the government, people just stood in their breadlines. Now that was almost a 100 years ago, so a lot could have changed in the American culture and views on government, but I just don't see it.

 

[gobbos]

I used to wonder about this, because there is a sense of class and even racial consciousness at levels enough for a revolution, but we're at the stage of the last man honestly. The bread and circuses are enough for most people to continue shoveling money into the system, and whoever does not find fulfilment are sterilized by the vapid state of political discourse/theater.

Maybe a cultural revolution is inevitable as the followers from younger, more ideological generations take over from the, arguably more realpolitik-minded leaders of the past? Justin Trudeau in Canada was arguably the first ideological leader from a younger generation and people now see his leadership for what it was, however. The current geopolitical situation doesn't really call for ideological folly either, so if western leaders want some power by the end of the decade they'll have to take some more unpopular measures, which i can forsee many populist 'anti-war' leaders pursuing.

With how stark the difference between realities are now (seriously, look at certain things on twitter, you'll see things from years ago enter political discourse like it was just from last week.) a cohesive or even a quiet revolution is impossible as well.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

The revolution is americans coming to terms with not being as important as aworld power anymore and not even having much greater living standards than everyone else. Much cope and seethe will ensue in the coming years.