Incels.is (Previously known as /r/incels) - Subreddit's banned, entitled Manchildren whine about why they can't get laid.

[A random street in Duluth]

There is and it involves you learning reading comprehension, though you argue like a low-IQ subhuman spastic, so I doubt it would work.

I'm not arguing, I'm mocking your dumb incel ass for thinking this thread is for you, not about you.

 

[Celestial Peace]

I'm not arguing, I'm mocking your dumb incel ass for thinking this thread is for you, not about you.

And you're proving my point by thinking I'm an incel.

 

[KoldHardTruth]

Yeah, yeah, hyperbolic examples and all that shit. I knew a guy who was paralyzed from the waist down, unemployed, living on welfare, ugly as shit, had nothing to live for, etc.

But with the power of pure good will or whatever he landed a hot busty woman who earns 6k/month and felt in her heart that she should help this poor handicapped guy and lived happily after ever.

However, he was able to do it because he wasn't fucked in the head and had charm, something an incel dosen't have.

What part of "incels are chronic spergs" your dumb nigger ass did not understand?

I've told people for years that being neurodivergent holds a greater penalty when it comes to dating than being physically unattractive does. Unattractive guys who are neurotypical are able to get laid because they're able to have traits that compensate for their lack of looks, spregs don't. I'd argue that most women would rather date a mediocre looking neurotypical guy over an autistic guy who's decent looking. The only way an autistic guy can beat a neurotypical guy in dating is if he had model level looks. Women don't even care about looks as much as men do, just look at most lesbian couples. Incels are usually feminine men because they assume women perceive attraction the same way men do.

Women are severely turned off by spergs because their nervous system registers this: sperg equals serial killer or rapist. This is due to their odd speech patterns, robotic movement, missing social cues and the lack of flow in conversations in spergs. The oddball behavior makes them come off as more dangerous because the lack of confidence they have from increased levels of social anxiety cause women to subconsciously think that they're potentially dangerous because they're behaving like they're doing something sneaky. This is why most women who date spergs are typically women that most people wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, they have no other option.

However, it's still bad to swing to the other extreme because you do have male feminists who are very black and white and hyperbolic, like the Public Offender for example:

He has a point in this video about how men are not very nice to women they're not attracted to, but he refuses to acknowledge that women do the same thing to men that they're not attracted to, especially black women. If you're neurodivergent or incredibly unattractive physically, you'd typically only get one or two word responses out of them, other races of women usually treat all guys the same regardless of their looks as long as they're respectful.

I'd go as far as saying that most women view spergs the same way men view very unattractive women.

 

[Celestial Peace]

Women are severely turned off by spergs because their nervous system registers this: sperg equals serial killer or rapist.

This is what morons who spout normie takes such as "HURR DURR BEING A SPERG IS NO EXCUSE" don't realize. They can't even see the stupidity behind this reasoning; being a sperg is what made them an incel in the first place, not the other way around.

That's why charm matters more than this looksmaxxing retardation that incels take way too seriously, but charm isn't something you can easily manufacture. It's easy to get a haircut, put on different clothes, wear a perfume or whatever, but you can't hide your weirdness behind appearances and women will be turned off by that immediately.

Most of the times, a sperg acts like one without even realizing he is being one. And most people won't bother giving them a feedback on their behavior, will rather shun them, they won't know why and will hold a grudge.

Those who think incels can find a workaround their spergatory are complete idiots.

Incels, for the most part, lack severely in social skills and, after you reach adulthood, society expects them to act like a normal person. They inevitably fail to do that, for a variety of reasons that ranges from social awkwardness to severe mental issues, get shunned and, as a response, double down on being a sperg, because it's not a matter of making their case worse, but a matter of telling society to fuck off. Resentment is the groundwork of an incel.

 

[KoldHardTruth]

That's why charm matters more than this looksmaxxing retardation that incels take way too seriously, but charm isn't something you can easily manufacture. It's easy to get a haircut, put on different clothes, wear a perfume or whatever, but you can't hide your weirdness behind appearances and women will be turned off by that immediately.

Looks still do matter for sure, but yeah the videos on YouTube about the male loneliness epidemic among Gen Z and how only the "top 20%" of men are getting buns are VASTLY over exaggerated in order for them to get views. IRL the only guys that I know that are virgins beyond the age of 21 are autistic, you rarely see a neurotypical guy who is an incel, even the ugliest neurotypical guys manage to always find someone, there are plenty of ugly people in satisfying relationships. I even know some spergs who were able to get laid, they just have realistic standards.

In my social circle in real life, I know guys who are at all levels of looks that have meaningful relationships, they may not be able to have non stop casual sex like the guys who look like models, but this goes to show that looks are subjective to some degree, being a spreg is objective.

Social media isn't nuanced when it comes to how dating works at all, it makes it seem like the average guy who has a handful of partners here and there doesn't exist, they always talk about how the men who aren't in the top 20% are basement dwelling gooner spergs who've never even gotten a side hug.

 

[A random street in Duluth]

And you're proving my point by thinking I'm an incel.

Yeah sure, you must be just getting a hernia out of defending incel behavior so hard and acting like one out of pure coincidence

 

[Celestial Peace]

defending incel behavior so hard and acting like one out of pure coincidence

Nigger, you have no arguments besides insisting I'm an incel and having jack shit to back up what you say.

Go toss a salad, faggot.

Social media isn't nuanced when it comes to how dating works at all

That's one of present day problems: these guys are terminally online and have only Internet parameters to compare themselves with, which can lead them to a distorted view on things.

 

[KoldHardTruth]

I forgot to mention previously that neurotypical guys also have a certain sex appeal to them that neurodivergent guys lack. A lot of women actually find it pathetic if you are a virgin past a certain age, people usually virtue signal for virgins and tell that that they are so "disciplined" for holding out but the fact of the matter is, most guys don't want to be celibate, if you're celibate beyond a certain age or for an extended period of time, it's usually due to the fact that you have a severe deficit in the behavioral or looks department that drives people away. People who are virgins are virgins past a certain age because nobody wants to fuck them, not because they value their bodies.

Most ugly guys aren't even that unattractive too, unless you're elderly or morbidly obese, you're still attractive enough to find someone who wants to sleep with you, outside of the parameters I just mentioned, men with disabilities are usually the only people that are unattractive to the point to where it repulses women. Autism typically causes facial deformities if you function below a certain level.

 

[A random street in Duluth]

Nigger, you have no arguments besides insisting I'm an incel and having jack shit to back up what you say.

Correct, you are not in an argument. I'm mocking you and your retarded incel excuses.

 

[Celestial Peace]

Correct, you are not in an argument. I'm mocking you and your retarded incel excuses.

You are indeed a retard who can't even understand what you even read. You're insisting that I'm an incel without showing where did I display incel logic, or "excuses" or whatever. You just keep going on screaming "incel" ad nauseam.

The only one you're mocking here is yourself acting like a fucking semi-illiterate moron.

 

[PPEcel]

@Celestial Peace @A random street in Duluth

I find it interesting that tradcon-adjacent types parrot this idea that every man must be a HECKIN' REAL MANLY AND COURAGEOUS SELF-IMPROOVER, no matter what kind of shit is thrown at them. Unattractive (and even average) young men are piñatas of both the feminist left and the boomer right. Our cultural overlords have decreed that they must eat the sins of their ancestors and do so with a smile on their faces.

The SELF-IMPROOVE advocates are very rarely able to convincingly explain why there is an intrinsic duty on the part of every man to be a SELF-IMPROOVER. They merely baldly assert it as if it were a self-evident truth. When pressed, they can only offer negative-reinforcement ad hominems: You're a pussy, a loser, not a "real man", your excuses suck, you're responsible for the cultural decline of Western civilization, et cetera.

Unfortunately, telling a loser that he or she is a loser is unlikely to turn the loser into a non-loser. (Anyone who has actually been in any supervisory position knows that.) It does nothing to halt the "cultural rot" of nihilism and really serves no purpose but to inflate the speaker's ego—yes, it feels nice to have someone below you on the pecking order.

I mentioned in my last post on this thread that:

Dating is hilariously broken for zoomers and millennials, normies or otherwise. This could be the subject of a dissertation-length essay but can be summed up in one sentence: Everyone has standards but no emotional availability. Those on the lower end of the social hierarchy are perfectly entitled to wonder whether the juice is worth the self-improvement squeeze. No amount of shaming will adjust this calculus.

I want to elaborate on that. Here’s a serious question: Why should an unattractive man be a SELF-IMPROOVER? What are the expected rewards of being a SELF-IMPROOVER?

To answer that, I borrow a concept from labor economics: the "reservation wage". A "reservation wage" is the lowest wage that a person would accept for a given job. A rational worker compares the value of employment immediately against the expected value of remaining unemployed, taking into account the proposed wage, the quality of employment, prospects for advancement at the proposed place of employment, current living costs, available savings, unemployment benefits, the opportunity costs of employment (i.e. loss of leisure time), et cetera.

Comprende? Good. Just as sellers in the labor market have “reservation wages,” men in the dating market have “reservation femoids”. The dating market is a little more complicated, so the meaning of a “reservation femoid” is going to vary depending on your place in the hierarchy as a man.

For a Chad, the “reservation femoid” is the lowest-quality foid that the Chad or Chadlite would agree to enter into a committed, monogamous relationship with. In other words, a “reservation femoid” is any femoid desirable enough, stable enough, sane enough for him to agree to cut ties with the rest of his roster and commit to her exclusively.

For an incel, low-tier normie, or failed normie, the “reservation femoid” is the lowest-quality foid that the man would agree to SELF-IMPROOVE for, taking into account the expected costs and benefits of SELF-IMPROOVEMENT. If the expected outcome of SELF-IMPROOVEMENT does not yield a femoid that is at or above the quality of the “reservation femoid”, then there is no reason to SELF-IMPROOVE (unless you take into account the ancillary, non-femoid benefits of SELF-IMPROOVEMENT, like income and health).

Here’s a problem with the dating market: Fewer and fewer femoids are hitting the “reservation femoid” threshold, because femoids are getting worse and worse:

• There’s no social expectation for a femoids to be fit. The powers that be have ordained that that expectation is shallow and misogynistic.
• There’s no social expectation for a femoid to not have retarded belief systems, like astrology or “love languages”.
• There’s no social expectation for a femoid to not be an insecure twat. God forbid you actually touched grass (like the very helpful Redditors suggested) and developed platonic female friendships. Now having female friends is a problem of your creation, because they make her feel anxious. You need to block them (except the fat one, because she’s not threatening) or else you don’t actually love her. If you refuse to block them it’s because you’re actually having an affair. Or affairs. (But reverse the roles and you’re a controlling abuser.)
• Worst of all, there’s no social expectation for a grown-up femoid to not be a giant fucking child, like throwing a hissyfit because the 4-figs/night hotel you booked at the last minute in peak season has turquoise drapes instead of the typical Park Hyatt-esque color scheme of beige and taupe everything. And if you couldn’t read her mind beforehand it means that you don’t truly love her (its just girl math???), so you are therefore a misogynist who cares only about her body, objectifier, evil, male gaze, pig, *insert gobbledygook tiktok therapyspeak here*. Oh, and if you’re winning an argument she’ll simply burst into tears, or bring up something you did six months ago that was resolved. Because responding with words is too hard or something (she’s just a girl).
  • Addendum: Your femoid decided to wear heels and you told her not to? You’re an evil, controlling, insecure manlet. Your femoid decided to wear heels and you didn’t tell her not to? Well, now her feet hurt, her Manolo Blahniks are ruined, and it’s your fault for not telling her to wear flats instead. Your femoid decided not to wear heels? Well, she got brutally mogged by her supermodel friend (6’2 in heels) in a photo, and now it’s your fault for not reminding her to/allowing her to wear heels/waving a magic wand and making her taller. There is absolutely no way anything is ever her fault.
• I could keep going but you get the point.

Men are somehow expected to be a bodyguard, personal shopper, travel agent, therapist, banker, chauffeur, handyman, butler, porter, comedian, secretary, and gigolo, all at the same time. But it’s misogynistic if any corresponding expectations are ever placed on women. Life is hard: The patriarchy made her get that $400 haircut. You get the point. A significant number of zoomer femoids are entitled and just plain fucking insane. And they can leave you and/or ruin your life at any second.

Many Chads know this. If they don’t meet any femoid at or above their “reservation femoid,” they’ll just build a roster and continue living a bachelor’s lifestyle. And that is exactly what they do.

So think about the position of an incel, low-tier normie, or failed normie. Realistically, scenarios like these are the expected outcome of SELF-IMPROOVEMENT for many young men on the lower levels of the hierarchy:

• You are a 4’11 sperg with a facial disfigurement—a truecel in the very sense of the word, the life equivalent of a Hard 16 vs Dealer 10 upcard in Blackjack. No amount of SELF-IMPROOVEMENT will ever make anyone attracted to you. Sorry. Your very existence is a laughingstock. When you express your dismay that SELF-IMPROOVEMENT did nothing to change your circumstances, the same people who barked at you to SELF-IMPROOVE now mock you for your sense of “entitlement”.
• You’re academically above-average. You find a stable career and claw your way into the middle class. Finally one day an overweight single mom sees you as a safe provider. So in addition to dealing with all of the above insane bullshit craziness and entitlement, you have to deal with baby daddy drama. Oh, and she can just decide to stop having sex with you at any time because you just aren’t exciting. Now you’re in a sexless marriage, raising kids that aren’t yours.
• You hit the gym seven days a week for five years. Finally one day you meet a BPD femoid and you think you’ve struck gold because she’s not overweight. She tells you that all of her exes were narcissists and that her father was mean to her growing up. You didn’t have the experience to see the red flags coming. So in addition to being a bodyguard, personal shopper, travel agent, therapist, banker, chauffeur, handyman, butler, porter, comedian, secretary, and gigolo at the same time, you had to be a janitor as well, because you are trying to clean up her father’s mess for him. Fortunately for you, these jobs last for just two months until she goes back to one or more of her exes. Then she falsely accuses you of rape. Now you’re single again, and need a lawyer. Unfortunately for you, you SELF-IMPROOVED into the lower-middle-class and now make just enough money to not qualify for a public defender, so your life savings get wiped out by your retained attorney.

So here’s what the SELF-IMPROOVE advocates fail to take into account: When the expected benefits of an action don’t outweigh its expected costs, it is no longer rational to take that action. All across most developed societies there are fewer and fewer “reservation femoids,” femoids that are actually worth the cost of SELF-IMPROOVING for. Because we’ve somehow allowed feminists to win the culture wars, allowing femoids to justify increasingly retarded and childlike behaviour, whilst men are still obligated to perform their traditional roles. This is obviously unsustainable.

When a young man realizes that a healthy, committed, loving relationship is unlikely to ever happen for him, the calculus changes pretty quickly. Straight men don’t need Birkins and week-long stays at the FS Cap-Ferrat to be happy. And if a man knows he will never have children, he will feel no moral obligation to earn enough to give anyone else a better childhood than he had. He will likely earn just enough to keep a roof over his head and tendies in his belly, and if his family is content to support that lifestyle, he will not need to earn anything at all. Shaming him will do little to change this calculus.

Having failed to explain why there is an intrinsic duty on the part of every man to be a SELF-IMPROOVER, the tradcon will mumble something about the birth rates, or whatever. But the main reason the birth rate even matters is because low birth rates make our nanny welfare states unsustainable. So instead of shaming young men into middle-class stability just so they can become paypigs for Shaniqua’s three daily bags of Doritos and Carl the Boomer’s shitty Carnival cruise, how about we let niggers go homeless and let boomers die if they are too fucking retarded to afford housing and healthcare?

I will admit that some young men aren’t actually acting rationally and are just being lazy. But it’s interesting how so much discourse is dedicated to blaming young men for not becoming husband material, when everyone is a-OK with young women not becoming wife material.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Wow, this thread has fallen apart since last time I was here.

That does not apply to incels though. They defined themselves by not getting sex despite wanting to, involuntarily celibate, that is their designator. I used to know a lot of jolly fucking nerds, the huge neckbeard types who did FORTRAN and Cobol legacy coding for fun, played their warhammers, their MGT, their D&D, argued about favorite magical girl anime, genuinely got upset about their favorite Star Trek captains and so on, yet somehow I never heard them seethe about women once, the lack of pussy did not define them. And somehow, one by one life drifted a quirk chungus in their way, they got girlfriends and got married, despite some of them losing their V-cards in their forties. . Incels are the complete opposite, they are virgins with rage, spending their days thirsting about pussy, green with envy about Chad. They WANT to be social,. they WANT the pussy so badly that they keep trooning out, so claiming they don't care is just disingenuous

@A random street in Duluth Regardless of their dating lives, at least those guys had something to look forward to and enjoy, even if it's stuff I'm not really into. They've at least accepted that they're not the type of guys that are going to attract many women or they don't even address that elephant in the room.

I can understand being in your thirties or forties and being frustrated but a lot of the guys who sign into incel forums are often fresh out of high school. And they're still carrying the resentment of not peaking in high school.

Honestly, if you peak in high school, the rest of your life is probably going to be shit.

At least for incels, there's gonna be AI girl robots coming soon, so Dollfucker can get himself a "real" girlfriend

 

[Foundinglaunderer]

I Tried inserting myself into the community to cause drama for shits and giggles (apparently they block VPNs for signing up) unironically not even the faggots at reddit do that

 

[Duke Nukem]

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I Tried inserting myself into the community to cause drama for shits and giggles (apparently they block VPNs for signing up) unironically not even the faggots at reddit do that

If they actually wanted incels to sign up you'd think they'd allow some level of anonymity but apparently they're so scared of trolls that they won't allow that anymore.

Like I'd want these dick smokers to know where I live.

 

[Foundinglaunderer]

Like I'd want these dick smokers to know where I live.

yuuuuuuuuuup

 

[PPEcel]

Ver archivo adjunto 9261412I Tried inserting myself into the community to cause drama for shits and giggles (apparently they block VPNs for signing up) unironically not even the faggots at reddit do that

If they actually wanted incels to sign up you'd think they'd allow some level of anonymity but apparently they're so scared of trolls that they won't allow that anymore.

Like I'd want these dick smokers to know where I live.

This is because r/IncelTears members in the past would try to sign up, post child pornography, and capture screenshots of their own child pornography in an attempt to report the site to the FBI and/or .is' service providers, and karma-farm on Reddit. That's how batshit crazy leftists are, and it goes beyond simple "trolling".

One of their most vocal ex-members is more than halfway through a 12-year sentence after being busted by the FBI for trying to arrange sex with a 7-year-old.

 

[Duke Nukem]

This is because r/IncelTears members in the past would try to sign up, post child pornography, and capture screenshots of their own child pornography in an attempt to report the site to the FBI and/or .is' service providers, and karma-farm on Reddit. That's how batshit crazy leftists are, and it goes beyond simple "trolling".

One of their most vocal ex-members is more than halfway through a 12-year sentence after being busted by the FBI for trying to arrange sex with a 7-year-old.

The one thing worse than incels is the people who base their lives around "owning" the incels. It makes me think Dollfucker is an elaborate troll made up by a CuckQueers member.

 

[Walter Jackson Freeman II]

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I Tried inserting myself into the community to cause drama for shits and giggles (apparently they block VPNs for signing up) unironically not even the faggots at reddit do that

I heard that the reason for this was because early in the forum's days they had a BBC spammer that they needed to block several IP ranges to get him to quiet down.

That's why they stopped allowing VPN signups supposedly.

(That plus it's an excuse for the feds to log your IP)

 

[SOLDIER OF WALES]

Dollfucker decided to review his sex doll but suddenly his grandma and mom came home early.

How the fuck do you get to a point in your life where:
1. you're so fucking defective you base your identity around not getting pussy and moaning about it
2. moving onto fucking sex dolls
3. deciding that you want to record yourself as a sex doll reviewer or whatever the fuck
4. then getting caught FUCKING IT by your mother and grandma and get into an entire embarrassing ass argument over it, then having that experience recorded, shared with the entire world?

This has gotta be them getting off on an inferiority/humilation fetish, right? This is literally just a fucking NTR cuckold humiliation plotline.

Can you even escape from this and live a normal life? Change your name but even then someone could find your face + voice with it and possibly confront you with it 8 years later.

 

[Nigger Hating Machine]

Only because there is too much freedom and individuality to dating, I'd honestly prefer a system designed to ensure average men could get wives rather than this bullshit where men like me are expected to be slaves for the sex haver class while I live a pointless life as a genetic dead end.

What does this mean? In what way are you enslaved by those who have sex? It almost sounds like a Marxist analysis.