Incels.is (Previously known as /r/incels) - Subreddit's banned, entitled Manchildren whine about why they can't get laid.

[Taarna]

Why don't you try it for a few years and get back to me?

We all know that in order to get women, what's important is looks, social status and money. Character and charisma can go a long way, too, and can make up for a lot of shortcomings in the formerly mentioned areas, but there's limits. But what we do know is that women most certainly do not select based on how "loving" a person is. You wouldn't see so many women getting mistreated by men otherwise. In order for you to know whether a person is loving or not, you'd first have to give them a shot. People who lack in the looks, status and money department don't even get a shot with most women. PUAs have a lot of good advice to offer. For anyone with dating problems, there's a lot to learn there. But "just be a loving person" is possibly even worse advice than "just be yourself".

 

[LonesomeDud]

We all know that in order to get women, what's important is looks, social status and money. Character and charisma can go a long way, too, and can make up for a lot of shortcomings in the formerly mentioned areas, but there's limits. But what we do know is that women most certainly do not select based on how "loving" a person is. You wouldn't see so many women getting mistreated by men otherwise. In order for you to know whether a person is loving or not, you'd first have to give them a shot. People who lack in the looks, status and money department don't even get a shot with most women. PUAs have a lot of good advice to offer. For anyone with dating problems, there's a lot to learn there. But "just be a loving person" is possibly even worse advice than "just be yourself".

I assume you're either getting pursued by a lot of women or in a wonderful marriage, for someone so wise. Please, tell us all about it.

 

[Taarna]

I assume you're either getting pursued by a lot of women or in a wonderful marriage, for someone so wise. Please, tell us all about it.

You just have to be a loving person.

 

[LonesomeDud]

You just have to be a loving person.

Hope being a miserable blackpiller works out for you, bro. I really do.

 

[Taarna]

Hope being a miserable blackpiller works out for you, bro. I really do.

It's not black-pilled to say, that just being a loving person won't help your success with women. Being a loving person might be important for a lasting long-term relationship, but it is far from being important when you want to date women. It is not even necessary. Incels can't even get most women to give them the chance to go on a date with them, They won't even give them the chance to prove, that they are loving people.

 

[LonesomeDud]

It's not black-pilled to say, that just being a loving person won't help your success with women. Being a loving person might be important for a lasting long-term relationship, but it is far from being important when you want to date women. It is not even necessary.

Have you tried being a good person who lives a compassion-based life?

 

[Taarna]

Have you tried being a good person who lives a compassion-based life?

We're going in circles here.

 

[slimes]

It's not black-pilled to say, that just being a loving person won't help your success with women. Being a loving person might be important for a lasting long-term relationship, but it is far from being important when you want to date women. It is not even necessary. Incels can't even get most women to give them the chance to go on a date with them, They won't even give them the chance to prove, that they are loving people.

100% of incels are the way they are because they have shit personalities, shit hygiene, and spend all day bitching about how much they hate women and deserve a perfect 10 for their troubles.

 

[Michael Janke]

We're going in circles here.

i can interject here. i grew up middle class and had some luck with woman in my teen years. though it may be because of what you're saying. i had the newest clothes, a somewhat used car and wasn't out of shape, though not particularly in shape.
i went to college, got a job and bought some bitcoin when it was dirt cheap to buy weed with online.
a friend of mine got busted for intent to distribute and went to jail for a while.
that spooked me so i stopped buying weed.
i kept thousands of bitcoin for several years until one day, it went way up.
i cashed it out and i no longer had to work and had a shitload of free time.
i went to the gym, bought nice clothes a nice house and a very nice car.
i took that clothes to a good tailor and my luck with woman all of a sudden went way up.
i couldn't believe it.
i did still have luck with woman before, but after that, my luck skyrocketed. i noticed a direct correlation between my social status and luck with woman.

 

[Taarna]

100% of incels are the way they are because they have shit personalities, shit hygiene, and spend all day bitching about how much they hate women and deserve a perfect 10 for their troubles.

Did they start out like that? Were they like that in school? Or did they become that way after decades of rejection? What came first, the chicken or the egg?

If you look at what kind of men some women are in relationships with, then hating women can only increase your chances with them.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Did they start out like that? Were they like that in school?

Maybe, a little. Too much entitlement as a child can lead to some bitter disappointment later on, especially if the parents coddle them and enable a shitty attitude instead of steering their special little guy straight.

Or did they become that way after decades of rejection? What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Find a well-known incel with a normal, well-adjusted childhood, who wasn't spoiled, emotionally or otherwise. They start "a little off" and fester into the useless shitsacks we laugh at.

If you look at what kind of men some women are in relationships with, then hating women can only increase your chances with them.

What a crock of shit. Christ, I hope you're trolling. Otherwise, your autism is profound, even by this site's standards.

 

[Duke Nukem]

It's not black-pilled to say, that just being a loving person won't help your success with women. Being a loving person might be important for a lasting long-term relationship, but it is far from being important when you want to date women. It is not even necessary. Incels can't even get most women to give them the chance to go on a date with them, They won't even give them the chance to prove, that they are loving people.

I understand where you're coming from but you have to understand that most women don't want to risk it with a guy who has autism for a reason. Plus most incels aren't loving people anyway, they just want the sex and social status that they think will come with having girlfriends and sex.

I generally do have a black pill view of dating but honestly this thread is not a place to defend incels.

 

[Taarna]

What a crock of shit. Christ, I hope you're trolling. Otherwise, your autism is profound, even by this site's standards.

Can you honestly say that when you hear of cases where women have been abused by men over several years, and they just kept going back?

 

[Duke Nukem]

Can you honestly say that when you hear of cases where women have been abused by men over several years, and they just kept going back?

Women with broken brains do exist, but the man must have something good on the table if she keeps going back.

I don't know why you're here but honestly if you're looking for dating advice this isn't the place for it.

What kinds of women do you generally go for or find yourself attracted to? Maybe you're aiming too high. And what kind of interests do you have? There are poor and less attractive guys who do get into relationships. Maybe you're not staying in your lane and that's why you're failing.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Can you honestly say that when you hear of cases where women have been abused by men over several years, and they just kept going back?

Ninja'd by @Duke Nukem , but aye: the percentage of women who either stupid enough to return (or feel like they don't have any choice but to return) are not a viable metric for all women, any more than the pants-shitting retards of the incel community are for all men.

 

[Taarna]

I understand where you're coming from but you have to understand that most women don't want to risk it with a guy who has autism for a reason. Plus most incels aren't loving people anyway, they just want the sex and social status that they think will come with having girlfriends and sex.

Then it's autism. Not the fact, that they are not "loving enough" as a person. If you say women don't want to date autistic spastics, I'm not gonna object. But being autistic also isn't their fault.

I know a guy from school, he must be somewhere on the spectrum. He had his first girlfriend around the age of 20, and he met her at work. She basically hit on him and he just had to accept her advances. She seduced him. Jntroduced him to things like fisting. Later turned out she was raped by her father as a kid and she literally screwed a mechanic, when my friend wasn't home. He came home, caught her. Guy got dressed and left, she claimed it was rape. The guy kept coming to their house to work on whatever he was working on until he was finished. My friend didn't do shit about it. Short time after that she left him, got into prostitution and checked into a psychiatric hospital.

My friend hasn't had a girlfriend since and he has low confidence, suffers from depression and has trouble meeting new people, especially girls. He's one of the nicest people I have ever met. He's reliable, loyal and kind. In terms of looks, he would even be doing pretty well, he's pretty tall and still has a full head of hair. Some women probably consider him somewhat handsome.

Now if you tell me, life's tough, life's not fair, he's born somewhat autistic so women are just not gonna line up to date him, that's ok. That's a realistic approach. But don't tell me "just be a loving person". That's saying that if you don't have success with women, that's because you're just not compassionate enough and that's just bullshit. If you have any experience with people, men, women and their relationships with one another, you know that's bullshit.

Women with broken brains do exist, but the man must have something good on the table if she keeps going back.

Of course he does. His cock, his job or his wallet. But certainly not an abundance of love for other human beings.

If you go back and read my posts, you'll see why your responses to me are redundant.

Ninja'd by @Duke Nukem , but aye: the percentage of women who either stupid enough to return (or feel like they don't have any choice but to return) are not a viable metric for all women, any more than the pants-shitting retards of the incel community are for all men.

What is the percentage?

 

[Michael Janke]

if someone had enough money, i'd like to do a social experiment.
give incels a lot of money. like 10 million each and see how many of them remain incels.
if enough of them do, we have proof that status wont change incels, if most of them stop being incels, we'll have proof that it does

 

[Wormy]

delete post, accidental double post

You can delete them yourself, ya don't have to ask a mod.

If you look at what kind of men some women are in relationships with, then hating women can only increase your chances with them.

That's an understandable point of view when you're young and new to relationships, but most people grow out of the perspective very quickly, if only from learning that women are individuals same as men. Women that go for men like that are legit screwed up in the head from either an overactive "I can change him!" immaturity, an environmental factor (like sexual abuse in childhood) or a straight up mental disorder. I've been with all three.

Later turned out she was raped by her father as a kid and she literally screwed a mechanic, when my friend wasn't home.

Short time after that she left him, got into prostitution and went into a psychiatric hospital.

See what I mean? You don't stick your dick in crazy, not because it's annoying, but because women like that need therapy, not a boyfriend.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Ninja'd by @Duke Nukem , but aye: the percentage of women who either stupid enough to return (or feel like they don't have any choice but to return) are not a viable metric for all women, any more than the pants-shitting retards of the incel community are for all men.

Great minds think alike, so it's okay. It's difficult to break away from a bad relationship sometimes, fear of being alone for the rest of your life definitely is a factor. Sure some women are retarded but incels are even more so.

Then it's autism. Not the fact, that they are not "loving enough" as a person. If you say women don't want to date autistic spastics, I'm not gonna object. But being autistic also isn't their fault.

I know a guy from school, he must be somewhere on the spectrum. He had his first girlfriend around the age of 20, and he met her at work. She basically hit on him and he just had to accept her advances. She seduced him. Jntroduced him to things like fisting. Later turned out she was raped by her father as a kid and she literally screwed a mechanic, when my friend wasn't home. He came home, caught her. Guy got dressed and left, she claimed it was rape. The guy kept coming to their house to work on whatever he was working on until he was finished. My friend didn't do shit about it. Short time after that she left him, got into prostitution and checked into a psychiatric hospital.

My friend hasn't had a girlfriend since and he has low confidence, suffers from depression and has trouble meeting new people, especially girls. He's one of the nicest people I have ever met. He's reliable, loyal and kind. In terms of looks, he would even be doing pretty well, he's pretty tall and still has a full head of hair. Some women probably consider him somewhat handsome.

Now if you tell me, life's tough, life's not fair, he's born somewhat autistic so women are just not gonna line up to date him, that's ok. That's a realistic approach. But don't tell me "just be a loving person". That's saying that if you don't have success with women, that's because you just not compassionate enough and that's just bullshit. If you have any experience with people, men, women and their relationships with one another, you know that's bullshit.

I agree with you on that, women generally don't like autistic men. But just because you were abused as a child doesn't mean you're a bad person. There really is no excuse for the cheating but you have to understand your friend is the exception not the rule. Plus I think it's very unlikely he'll ever have a girlfriend ever again.

Also, fuck being a "nice guy," no wonder your friend isn't getting laid constantly.

 

[Taarna]

You can delete them yourself, ya don't have to ask a mod.

I've looked for the option and haven't found it.

That's an understandable point of view when you're young and new to relationships, but most people grow out of the perspective very quickly, if only from learning that women are individuals same as men. Women that go for men like that are legit screwed up in the head from either an overactive "I can change him!" immaturity, an environmental factor (like sexual abuse in childhood) or a straight up mental disorder. I've been with all three.

Obviously those women are not good for relationships. Obviously treating women like that is not good if you want to have a good relationship.

This was about the notion that you just have to be a "loving person" to be successful with girls, and that's obviously nonsense.

Also, fuck being a "nice guy," no wonder your friend isn't getting laid constantly.

Exactly. That was the whole argument here. You're basically agreeing with me.

You've circled around to saying "incels are too nice to get girls".

This whole thing started with "incels are not nice enough to get girls".