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Hey who knows, maybe science uterus works better than the organic deal
Implanting Uteruses - For Loons, Troons, and Autogynophiles
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Hey who knows, maybe science uterus works better than the organic deal
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The issue isn't the uterus, it's the chemicals and hormones the child receives from the mother's body and how the mother's body reacts to the child.
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- 17 de Abr, 2016
That shit would be pretty cool in theory for people whose entire self-worth is linked with the ability to have children, but I don't think we could keep that stuff from being a catostrophic failure should things go wrong. Especially the hormone front Bravo mentioned. That'd probably be the biggest torpedo sinking the project/research.
But given how our technology tends to develop... we'd also be talking pod-like containers and not the organic stuff that fits inside a body like a synthetic organ, which someone would whine alienates the mother from the process. Despite, y'know, getting to see the peanut's progression.
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- 15 de Mar, 2016
Jesus Tittyfucking Christ thanks for giving me another reason to find trannies gross and weird
If they must ruin children with their fucked up mentally ill ideology then why not surrogacy?
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Another possible problem no one seems to have mentioned is the fact that as the baby and placenta grow, pretty much all of the internal organs are under some degree of pressure and get pushed into odd positions; clearly women have the wiggle room which allows them to remain stable the whole time and for things to normalize after birth, but I have no idea what would happen to a man. Frankly, nothing is impossible, but considering the fact that progress in medicine is much slower than progress in computer sciences, for the time being, a transsexual's best bet would be becoming a woman in a highly realistic computer simulation, which means they wouldn't look like a troon at all so I'm sure they would bite.
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But everyone thinks their hellspawn are special, "not like one of those!"
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I sympathize with the urge to have a kid and adoption isn't the same for most people. But if they have to use donor eggs with the transplant (unless it's a biological woman with ovaries but no working uterus) then I don't see the point really.
If a trans woman tries this and survives will they be happy having their body split apart for a baby they didn't even make? Maybe, but usually biological women only do such a thing to get paid (as surrogates).
If a trans woman tries this and survives will they be happy having their body split apart for a baby they didn't even make? Maybe, but usually biological women only do such a thing to get paid (as surrogates).
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- 25 de Dic, 2015
Uterus transplant spaffers don't seem to be concerned about the end product - the child. It's all about the sweet, sweet validation of the gender, being a 'real woman'. Imagine the stares, the gasps of awe, the media attention and applause a real life MtF trans would get, walking into a maternity hospital with that big, fat, pregnant belly? That's the endgame. And perhaps as a secondary, the people clucking over a cute baby in a pram.
What if the child is born disabled? Can the trans mother live with the knowledge that they've brought a life into this world that may suffer, perhaps for many years, for their selfish demand to have a baby like cis women? Even if it's healthy, raising a kid isn't a glamorous business. Once you've popped a sprog, it's all about the sprog and not about you any more. That's gonna sting an attention whore like hell.
Still, there's ample room to make the kid into a childhorror superstar with this set up. That should keep the media spotlight around for a bit longer.
It's a bit too 'fuck the kid, I want to be pregnant!'.
What if the child is born disabled? Can the trans mother live with the knowledge that they've brought a life into this world that may suffer, perhaps for many years, for their selfish demand to have a baby like cis women? Even if it's healthy, raising a kid isn't a glamorous business. Once you've popped a sprog, it's all about the sprog and not about you any more. That's gonna sting an attention whore like hell.
Still, there's ample room to make the kid into a child
It's a bit too 'fuck the kid, I want to be pregnant!'.
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As someone with a very strong desire to reproduce, I can relate to those who wish to have their own child, but for whatever reason cannot. The problem with trans people of course, is that they CAN in fact reproduce, just not as their chosen gender in the way said gender typically reproduces. I read about a trans couple, male-to-female and female-to-male. The "woman" had some sperm frozen, the "man" had working eggs, they could still have a child of their own. You just can't give birth to it. And you are going to have to accept that.
You cannot always have things your way. But there are a shit-ton of options, to have a kid if you want one. You just cannot give birth to one if you are biologically male, and you cannot father one if you are biologically female.
This is the type of technology that should be used only for women who for whatever reason lack or lost their own uterus. But a man's body is not meant to host a child. He may sculpt his body to resemble that of a woman, he may live out a female identity, and raise a child and be that child's "mother", but a male body cannot, will not and should not be used to carry a child to term. That's some Frankenstein shit right there.
You cannot always have things your way. But there are a shit-ton of options, to have a kid if you want one. You just cannot give birth to one if you are biologically male, and you cannot father one if you are biologically female.
This is the type of technology that should be used only for women who for whatever reason lack or lost their own uterus. But a man's body is not meant to host a child. He may sculpt his body to resemble that of a woman, he may live out a female identity, and raise a child and be that child's "mother", but a male body cannot, will not and should not be used to carry a child to term. That's some Frankenstein shit right there.
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Jesus, childbirth is fucking scary why would trannies want to go through with it.
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If you look at news stories about MTFs and when they realized they were trans, a disturbing number of "lesbian" ones decide they're a woman on the inside during a family member (spouse, sister, cousin, sister-in-law)'s pregnancy. Basically, a woman is getting more attention than me? I'M A WOMAN TOO RESPECT MY NEW PRONOUNS AND TAKE ME SHOPPING SHITLORD. A lot of them don't talk about it, but it's in their stories if you look: "told his wife about the fact that he's always been a woman just over 8 years ago," followed by "The couple's 8 year old daughter." It's almost as transparent as the ones who troon out because their wife has cancer and they're desperate for any way to shift attention and asspats back to them.
The part they want isn't about the birth or the child, it's about the way they imagine women are treated and feel during pregnancy. They get this imagining from movies and TV (usually written by men), not from actual women they know. This is why when they talk about how they resent women for having girlhoods, they talk about all the experiences they never had, and it sounds like they just watched 80's movies to decide what being a true and honest girl was really like: slumber parties, pillow fights, being prom/homecoming queen, ponies, princess dresses, playing with dolls.
So by this standard, pregnant women have it easy! Everyone is nice to them, the plot always revolves around them and their needs, birth is a comical "why'd you do this to me, you bastard," and everyone's always happy at the end, you look the same as you did before, and no one is getting mesh surgically implanted to avoid fecal incontinence and then having the mesh destroy their vagina permanently. Pregnancy and birth is a piece of cake if you've gotten your information from TV and movies.
The part they want isn't about the birth or the child, it's about the way they imagine women are treated and feel during pregnancy. They get this imagining from movies and TV (usually written by men), not from actual women they know. This is why when they talk about how they resent women for having girlhoods, they talk about all the experiences they never had, and it sounds like they just watched 80's movies to decide what being a true and honest girl was really like: slumber parties, pillow fights, being prom/homecoming queen, ponies, princess dresses, playing with dolls.
So by this standard, pregnant women have it easy! Everyone is nice to them, the plot always revolves around them and their needs, birth is a comical "why'd you do this to me, you bastard," and everyone's always happy at the end, you look the same as you did before, and no one is getting mesh surgically implanted to avoid fecal incontinence and then having the mesh destroy their vagina permanently. Pregnancy and birth is a piece of cake if you've gotten your information from TV and movies.
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Science: All about the coulda, not the shoulda.
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As for my opinion; I'm mostly reluctant due to the whole waves of people faking it and those that realize that changing their body doesn't change why they're depressed and fucked up. Still interesting we're getting good enough at transplants that we can do optional stuff like this nowadays and it might work.
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I think anyone who does this to a man should have their medical licence revoked and be prosecuted for gross irresponsibility and criminal disregard for the Hippocratic Oath, and that's just for performing it on animals. Human experimentation with this shit should tack on a manslaughter charge.
We can't even transplant organs the body uses all the time to live without ridiculous financial cost and a lifetime of follow-ups to keep the body from seeing said organ as an al-Qaedic invasion. Even then, it usually fails in a few years no mattef what. To do this for an organ which performs no immediate survival functions is tantamount to dripfeeding the patient poison.
We're still lifetimes away from this not being the case; by which we'll probably have an actual cure for transexuality rather than just treatment. Even such transplants being practical rather than dangerous won't solve the problem of an actual pregnancy term being a death sentence for the male body due to reasons previously mentioned by @Abortions4All and @Mariposa Electrique.
We can't even transplant organs the body uses all the time to live without ridiculous financial cost and a lifetime of follow-ups to keep the body from seeing said organ as an al-Qaedic invasion. Even then, it usually fails in a few years no mattef what. To do this for an organ which performs no immediate survival functions is tantamount to dripfeeding the patient poison.
We're still lifetimes away from this not being the case; by which we'll probably have an actual cure for transexuality rather than just treatment. Even such transplants being practical rather than dangerous won't solve the problem of an actual pregnancy term being a death sentence for the male body due to reasons previously mentioned by @Abortions4All and @Mariposa Electrique.
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I might be weird for this, but reading the OP's title didn't even make me think of troons, I was assuming this was some new experimental procedure for cis women. Why do I gotta be so optimistic all the time 
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In your defence, that is what it's actually supposed to be used for.I might be weird for this, but reading the OP's title didn't even make me think of troons, I was assuming this was some new experimental procedure for cis women. Why do I gotta be so optimistic all the time