Im getting a pro-Ukraine vibe from here.

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I'm definitely a fencesitter against choosing a side with the war in Ukraine since I have no skin in the fight but I'm glad this place hasn't gone full retard showing uncritical support for Russia like 4chan has.
 
I'm getting a pro neutral vibe here.

4chan has a lot of operatives, and yes, also russian ones. Also they're more contrarian and more politically aware, and higher percentage of men.
 
I support Ukraine, but not for the reasons Twitter, Reddit, and TPTB want me to. I don't buy all the horseshit about Ukraine being a Beacon of Democracy™️ or the Clapping Einsteins of Kyiyiyiyiyiv. Ukraine got rated by some NGO as only slightly less corrupt than Russia, and until a few months ago, the media were wailing and gnashing their teeth about their neo nahzees.

All the same, Russia has invaded a sovereign nation. They are objectively the bad guys, and you should not be supporting them just because you think it'll Own the Libs.

Victor Davis Hanson rightly rebuked the Russiaboos. Putin is no friend of right-wingers or conservatives. He's KGB. If it benefitted him to prop up tranny shit or race animosity in the West, he'd absolutely do it.

The whole "muh based trad Christian Russia" schtick is a larp, and don't let Nick Fuentes tell you otherwise. Russia is full of drug use, alcoholism, abortions, censorship, and gun control. Their military has sodomy as a conscript initiation ritual, and units of psychotic raghead Chechens who have no qualms about sacrificing their enemies to Allah.
 
The high IQ position is to take a pro-Sneed stance regarding this conflict.
 
The Russian Federation has engaged in an unjustified war of aggression against an independent nation for realpolitick reasons. Anyone who values the right of sovereign nations and their citizens to govern their own affairs should be supporting Ukraine and their attempts to defend themselves from this aggression.
 
Like treason, invasions never succeed. Because when it's succesful, it isn't treason/invasion.

Russians big sin is not ending it quickly. Just 30 years ago it was still part of russia and just 8 years ago they had a US backed coup.
 
I don't give a shit one way or the other. Eastern Europe's problems aren't my problems. I've gotta worry about keeping a roof over my head and gas in my tank and maybe affording some ramen.
 
I just take the position that the western nations wanted Russia to go to war and took advantage of the tensions in play to fully enflame them. They didn't start these tensions and I don't think they actually expected Ukraine to hold. Probably thinking Ukraine would simply capitulate and lead cleanly into a second cold war. An attempt that has obviously failed at this point.

Why would globo homo do this though? Because the first cold war gave endless excuses for more globalist policies, striking away at civil liberties in exchange for "safety", and funneling money towards corporations and corrupt politicians while hiding it in anti-Soviet legislation. Ever since the end of the cold war the justification for all this garbage has come under heavier and heavier scrutiny. Without an external enemy to distract the people, the people begin to see more and more of their lives being encroached upon by a government that doesn't have their best interests.

Why else did all the western nations send out high level politicians and diplomats guaranteeing the safety and promising weapons to Russia's other Eastern neighbors during already strained negotiations to secure peace? Its because they wanted to look like they were for peace while really flaming the tensions of war.

To actually answer the question, Ukraine is a corrupt shit hole co-opted by globohomo but Russia took globohomo's bait and invaded. I don't deny Russia was egged on endlessly to invade by globohomo but, just like assault, I blame the one who couldn't control themselves and threw the first punch. I lean towards and am even a little sympathetic towards Ukraine, even if I do understand the greater powers and distinctly sinister motives at play.
 
My view is that this war was inevitable. Ukraine and Russia are not natural countries but post soviet fracture states in an area of the world where the power vacuum after the fall of the soviet union has not been addressed under the current status quo. Russia is a contradiction of trying to be both a nation and rightful successor of the empire/ussr, and ukraine is stuck with the curse of both being a historic territory of the empire and having a separate national identity. The whole situation just becomes even worse when you add the years of soviet mismanagement and cultural destruction under the bolsheviks, the corrupt and in many cases evil people/ex communists running these countries, and a western political/media establishment that at the same time has declared unparalleled support for ukraine but yet couldn't care less about the outcome of the conflict.
 
Mike Stoklasa dijo:
Despite the whining, even most Kiwi Farms users can't resist the mainstream globalist propaganda compelling them to support Ukraine.
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It's not about globalist propaganda, it's about not returning to the sort of land-grabbing and warmongering that was common before the world wars occurred.
 
Meat Target dijo:
The whole "muh based trad Christian Russia" schtick is a larp, and don't let Nick Fuentes tell you otherwise. Russia is full of drug use, alcoholism, abortions, censorship, and gun control. Their military has sodomy as a conscript initiation ritual, and units of psychotic raghead Chechens who have no qualms about sacrificing their enemies to Allah.
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Where Churchill referred to the traditions of the British Navy to be Rum, Sodomy and the Lash, the traditions of Russia are Vodka, more Vodka, Sodomy, and these days, Krokodil.
 
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