🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

[sparklemilhouse]

I think the flash incident totally confirms his :autism:autism:autism:

 

[Holdek]

From the interview I linked on Page 332:



So this woman, a faculty member at ASU, has never been forgiven for doing her job, which caused Sweet to not only curse her out repeatedly (every time the flash went off in the newsroom), but also caused him to launch into a long, loud, sperging tirade about how much he likes lesbians, a tirade interrupted by fits of cursing every time the flash was fired. But it's her fault that he was punished for his behavior.

What's most weird to me is that he admits he "made a mistake" but then blames her for it in the very next sentence. How does his brain work like that?

(Also, considering that he frequently accuses us Kiwis of contradicting each other in our posts, the fact that he contracts himself in the very same thought is priceless.)

 

[He Sets Me On Fire]

What's most weird to me is that he admits he "made a mistake" but then blames her for it in the very next sentence. How does his brain work like that?

(Also, considering that he frequently accuses us Kiwis of contradicting each other in our posts, the fact that he contracts himself in the very same thought is priceless.)

Jon's mistakes are never to be seen as his fault. Even when he admits to them, it seems that his admission is as far as he's going to go in demonstrating any humility, often to be followed up instantly with a "But the other guy---!". Apparently, the fact that he just admitted culpability is supposed to be irrelevant. Jon may be responsible, but he's never to blame.

 

[Adamska]

Jonny can't stand being at fault, since that implies that it was his own actions that had something bad happen to him. So he decides to blame the victim, since that way he can take the blame off of himself, and he's just that type of repugnant fuck to blame the victim. He did with Virginia Tech for fuck's sake. I wouldn't be shocked if he pulled an Akin and blamed the raped woman for getting raped.

 

[He Sets Me On Fire]

I wouldn't be shocked if he pulled an Akin and blamed the raped woman for getting raped.

Not to be insensitive to her, but he came pretty darn close with his remarks to Treenbeen. That was low of him, and between that and his statement about preferring insecure women, I have to honestly wonder what depths Sweet could sink to if he had the competence to do so.

 

[DrJonesHat]

A chronic pattern of not taking responsibility for your mistakes is a sign of Anti-social personality disorder.

 

[Dr. Merkwurdichliebe]

Like I've said, if one imitates something and gives credit, that isn't plagiarism, but as far as Sweet is concerned, it's evidence of a severe shortage of creativity.

Sweet's giving credit to the people whose ideas he's stealing may absolve a little of the moral stigma, but it wouldn't cut any mustard if he were standing before a judge. Legally, what he's doing is still plagiarism. As someone else has pointed out, if his crap was making any money, he'd be sued into bankruptcy.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

[plagiarism and stealing]

You mean copyright infringement? Legally speaking, copyright infringement is not the same thing as plagiarism or theft.

However, commercial gain from using derivative works of copyrighted works by others (such as those ALF creatures in Belch Dimension) is at least very risky as far as copyright law is concerned.

 

[He Sets Me On Fire]

You mean copyright infringement? Legally speaking, copyright infringement is not the same thing as plagiarism or theft.

However, commercial gain from using derivative works of copyrighted works by others (such as those ALF creatures in Belch Dimension) is at least very risky as far as copyright law is concerned.

Sweet has stated that ripping off ALF was all about taking a pre-sold concept, slapping a paint job on it, and selling it as his own. He had used the phrase "Voila! Instant franchise." He is not only unashamed of stealing ideas, he does it enthusiastically.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I wonder if Sweet would try and copy answers from the kid next to him (assuming anyone sat next to him) in elementary school, and then proudly admit it?

taking a pre-sold concept, slapping a paint job on it, and selling it as his own. [...] "Voila! Instant franchise."

Yeah, that sounds fraudulent, even with giving credit. And probably illegal too.*

>but muh parody
Sweet may claim it's a "parody," a concept that lolcows seem to struggle with.

*One would probably think that with Belch Dimension, being the magnum opus of Sweet, would have more thought and creativity put into it. But that would probably be if one wasn't told of Sweet.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Yeah, even if you give credit, it's still copyright infringement, but not plagiarism, which is an ethical violation, not a legal one. Sweet committed plagiarism with his TV ratings column. His characters are copyright violations, cause they're just recolors of existing characters. Derivative works can't be copyrighted (as multitudes of fanfic writers have found out) Had he slapped a line at the beginning of the piece that said something like "inspired by SNL", he would have been fine, from what I can tell. The content was substantially different enough that it was his own work. The idea wasn't original, but lots of works are inspired by other works so I think he would have been fine.

 

[Adamska]

Yeah, even if you give credit, it's still copyright infringement, but not plagiarism, which is an ethical violation, not a legal one. Sweet committed plagiarism with his TV ratings column. His characters are copyright violations, cause they're just recolors of existing characters. Derivative works can't be copyrighted (as multitudes of fanfic writers have found out) Had he slapped a line at the beginning of the piece that said something like "inspired by SNL", he would have been fine, from what I can tell. The content was substantially different enough that it was his own work. The idea wasn't original, but lots of works are inspired by other works so I think he would have been fine.

I'm going to do something that might help us understand how Jonathan Mack Sweet reads our posts. I give you Sweet-o-vision

Yeah, even if you give credit, blah blah blah blah blah, not plagiarism, *insert Whitewash Jones speak here for full effect*. Sweet did not commit plagiarism with his TV ratings column.

Spoiler: Too boring

His characters are copyright violations, cause they're just recolors of existing characters. Derivative works can't be copyrighted (as multitudes of fanfic writers have found out)

Had he slapped a line at the beginning of the piece that said something like "inspired by SNL", he would have been fine, from what I can tell. The content was substantially different enough that it was his own work. The idea wasn't original, but lots of works are inspired by other works so I think he would have been fine.

Then we get to the part where he screams that the college should let him back in because they "made a false charge" that he admitted to. Ignoring that they can refuse service due to being a private institution and have reasonable cause in doing so considering how he acted after getting kicked for plagiarism after four plus years of inappropriate behavior for an adult.

 

[Dr. Merkwurdichliebe]

You mean copyright infringement? Legally speaking, copyright infringement is not the same thing as plagiarism or theft.

Yes. I should have been more precise. It's possible to plagiarize without infringing copyright. It's possible to infringe without plagiarizing.

Sweet, of course, does both. His use of copyrighted photos, for example, is a textbook example of copyright infringement per se.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

His use of copyrighted photos

Oh right, that football field incident.

Derivative works can't be copyrighted

Elements of derivative works that aren't copyrighted to others can be, but of course, one can't own any copyright over ALF himself just by making fanart of him, for example.

Something something

"That's how we were taught in The System®." - The Bad Boy Of College Journalism

 

[DrJonesHat]

Unless Sweet can convince a jury that ASU colluded with NBC to produce a fake skit for the sole purpose of getting him kicked off a twice-weekly paper at third-rate college in a bottom-tier state, he won't be going back to ASU ever.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

"That's how we were taught in The System®." - The Bad Boy Of College Journalism

The Boy of Bad College Journalism

 

[DrJonesHat]

You can't even call what Sweet did "journalism".

 

[AJMLurker]

You can't even call what Sweet did "journalism".

A great cow trait of Sweets is how he believes being on the college newspaper made him into a celebrity on campus. If you expect to become a campus celebrity for an extracurricular activity, writing for the college newspaper is not your top pick.

Ultimately, your popularity status, wherever you are, depends on your social skills and Sweet completely lacks these skills.

 

[Dr. Merkwurdichliebe]

Oh right, that football field incident.

That and every other image he has stolen from some Internet site, including at least one image that is a registered trademark. (Cutting and pasting the Gorton's Seafood Co. logo into your comic and turning a fishing boat captain into a pirate -- a pirate wearing a yellow rain slicker, no less -- is so much easier than actually drawing the character yourself.) So we can add trademark infringement to the list of his unlawful activity.

The fact that the Bad Boy of College Journalism slaps his own copyright notices on copyrighted/trademarked work that he has shamelessly stolen is especially amusing, and doesn't really lend a lot of support to his contention that he's not a plagiarist. (His habit of rabidly denying that he has committed some relatively minor offense, while gleefully acknowledging major ones, is unique in my experience.)

If Sweet were ever sued for copyright/trademark infringement, his defense would certainly be: "How dare they attempt to punish me for my violations of those stupid civil statutes! They are responsible for these judgments that will keep me poor forever! They have cost me my dream of building my life's ambition -- the whorehouse filled with jailbait college-living apartments! I will never forgive them!"

 

[ToroidalBoat]

[false copyright notices]

Putting a false copyright notice on a work with fraudulent intent is actually criminal copyright infringement. Copyright infringement is usually a civil offense, but some things make it criminal, like the kind of copyfraud I just described.