I really, really hate fan fiction.

I wrote an Emilie Autumn inspired fanfiction where the main character was this speshul snowflake who thought she was so amazing and only heard what she wanted to hear in people, even when they were cursing her out and calling her a fake ass bitch, but it didn't survive the Unfortunate Computer Burnout of 2015.
 
I talked about this on the Sonichu board, but I might want to work on a Sonichu inspired Sword and Sorcery story. Sonichus would be super-soldiers powered by the DNA of the emperor Chandler of Cwctowne to defeat the evil sorceress Slaweel, worshipper of Graduon.
 
New edgy ass pony fanfiction!
Bronze Tusk journied on for miles upon miles, searching for sanity. He passed lonely monasteries radiating with arcane energy, he passed caves writhing with ungodly figures, he passed magnificent palaces shooting bolts of pure magic at each other. All this didn’t concern him, as Bronze Tusk blazed on ahead. The day was getting older and older with every step and Tusk was getting closer and closer to giving up. As he slumped onwards, he caught sight of a humble little village. Thinking nothing of it at the time, Bronze Tusk checked into a sleepy tavern overlooking the sleepy town.

After a few ciders and a meal of flaming grass, Bronze Tusk retired to his room. Fittingly enough, it overlooked an Ancestral Field, a place of the dead Earth Ponies to finally slumber in peace, protected by magnificent earthworks reaching into the sky. As the sun leisurely descended, and the moon shot up in the sky for a split second before falling, Bronze hit the hay, dreaming of the Grassy Lands, where the Alicorns escaped the horrors of Hippoborea.

Bronze Tusk awoke in a temple to the gods of panic. The rest of the inn was smashed to smithereens leaving only him and his bed amidst a heap of rubble. The Ancestral Field was rife with holes and the whole town (All 200 of them) was running about, declaring sorcery and blaming each other. As Tusk took all of this in, an equine figure jumped on him beating him to pieces. As soon as he grasped what was going on, Bronze Tusk got up, and with a quick swipe, decapitated the being. As it hit the ground with a thump, Tusk noticed it was definitely a pony, or at least it used to be. Its skin was a purple marred by dust and it seemed to have a marking cutting down its face that was eventually sealed up. There was no blood surrounding it, nor did there seem to be any blood inside it. Bronze Tusk stared off in the distance, only seeing carnage and hate, smashed the head under his iron hooves and ran off towards the chief’s house.



The chief’s house was, to say the least, a splendor in the rubble. It was made of pure wood from the groves of St’aälion, breathing dazzling energy and life. At the top was a large dome, being savaged by the equine figures. Chased by hundreds of former ponies, Bronze Tusk ran into the majestic building and shut the door. Inside was as pastel colored as the ponies that have inhabited the world. Hidden in all of these colors were strange scribbilings, possibly a language, but indeterminate. In the center of all this was a throne. Its figure gracefully looped around the dome, directly in front of a mural detailing the Alicorn princess Feoirnifaern, the Mistress of Existence. There sat the chief, an olden Earth Pony, beard thick as blood, grinning and conniving.

“What is it my child?” Asked the chief.

Bronze Tusk grumbled, pointing to the door, which was in the process of being destroyed.

“Oh right, the revenants! I forgot about those!” Said the chief, “We wouldn’t want to break the oath now, would we?”

Bronze Tusk took his sword out of his mouth to ask about what in the many realms of Tartarus this oath was. But before he could utter a syllable, the chief grabbed a ceremonial dagger and charged Bronze Tusk with full force. Bronze Tusk mumbled an esoteric swear and parried. He didn’t last for long, and was pinned to the ground by the great veteran.

“Allow me to introduce myself” said the chief, “My name is Chief Exposition. I could just kill you now to get my plan over and done with, but due to a serious medical condition, I have to explain my plan first.”

Bronze Tusk muttered another swear from ages past, as Chief Exposition rambled on.

“You must have been called by some sort of prince or princess long ago. Well, I was called by my loyal Feoirnifaern, Mistress of Existence. She sent me long, droning messages about how I should sacrifice half of my town and she would repay me with nookie.”

Bronze Tusk reached for his sword silently. He decided to humor Chief Exposition a bit, after all, he may explain something about what was going on.

“But then for some reasons, the people I slaughtered came back with a vengeance. I don’t think it was a bad thing though, I didn’t like my residents anyways. Unfortunately, my babe hasn’t come yet. Maybe through some sort of mystical occurrence, she’ll appear so I can bone her. You know, guy stuff.”

As soon as Chief Exposition mumbled these words, the ceiling burst open. Above the two Earth Ponies hovered an enormous palace. It was pure gold and encrusted with jewels of all shapes and sizes. There were balconies holding gardens of most exotic flora and fauna, sculptures of chimeras, centaurs and manticores, symbols of the other gods, truly a summation of all things living. The equine forms shuddered in fear as this flying palace descended. Out of this magnificence stepped an Alicorn. She was a light pink, and around her were animals of all shapes and sizes. Chief Exposition squealed in delight as he ran towards the princess.

“Hey babe,” Chief Exposition flirted, “What’s a pretty lady like you doing in a town like this?”

The Mistress of Existence bellowed a piercing scream. Her eyes turned an iridescent teal as she turned to the Chief and stared at him for a solid minute. She slowly wrapped around Chief Exposition and proceeded to bite his head off.

“This is what I get for following the rules of an ancient god! I remember when I was young, they said that I was going to –” The Chief screamed as his neck tore off from the rest of his body. Feoirnifaern smiled as she feasted upon his head, spitting out the odd helmet piece.

Terrified, Bronze Tusk ran for his life, slicing the occasional revenant in twain with his rusty blade. He could only wonder what kind of being would interfere with this mad ruler’s plans, certainly he would have done so if he got the chance. Maybe it would be better if he was able to know what was coming next. But maybe, just maybe, this weirdness was necessary for Hippoborea to survive. He shrugged it off and departed into the great beyond of Hippoborea.
 
The only actually good fanfiction I've ever read is Transformers: Eugenesis. And it's not just decent or passable, it's actually terrific. It bears mentioning that the author, James Roberts, is currently writing More Than Meets The Eye, one of the two ongoing TF comic series, and has almost single handedly transformed (puns ahoy!) this branch of the franchise from a mid-to-low tier action series into an incredible, competent sci-fi epic with excellent, character-driven plot, a unique narrative and immersive world building. And even Eugenesis, one of his earliest works, comes across as incredibly professional and engrossing despite being fan fiction (or, to put it more fancily, unofficial novel). Methinks it's definately worth a shot!
 
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I see fan fiction as being something similar to role-playing in a universe already created. It can be done badly, and it can be done well. Fan fiction is a decent way for people to practice writing for characters already pretty well defined. Of course it goes down the shitter when the writer decides to drastically retcon a character or universe, which I think misses the entire point of writing in someone else's fictional universe. It's a crutch, yet some people take the crutch and stick wheels on it, which entirely fucks up the purpose of having the crutch.

Kind of off-topic role-playing rant
As @Geo noted, it's very self-serving. In role-playing we saw the same wish-fulfillment and general disregard for canon. I used to sperg when I'd see yet another anime/vampire/demon insert in to a universe where it made no sense. I'd grimace on seeing yet another Sephiroth clone wandering around. In WoW, we had nice mods that allowed us to add character descriptions. Of course some people saw this as a place for short stories and downright insanity. One of the cardinal rules of role playing is to not control the characters of other people. i.e. it's fine if your description would contain the phrase "towers ominously, with glowing eyes that survey his surroundings", but not good to have something like "towers ominously above you, causing your bowels to erupt in fear as glowing eyes bore deep in to your soul". It's also bad form to create situations where a player has to either dramatically react or break character to preserve the scene. An example of this would be the the necromancer, with human skulls hanging from his belt, taking a casual stroll about a cathedral. That or the demon who sits happily at the inn of a place where demons would ordinarily be run-through, decapitated, and burnt. Mostly you just had to ignore them, as these are not exactly good role-players making these kinds of characters, so their reactions would be pretty piss-poor. Either they'd power emote or they'd explain how they're actually a nice necromancer, with a collection of human skulls.

Like with fan-fiction, a big challenge is in building and maintaining plausible characters. Characters must have constraints if they're to be believable, and it's not reasonable to expect that a brooding demon slayer is also going to be found drinking and joking at the village fair. This is a good way to separate honest writing from wish-fulfilment. The honest writer, or role-player, remains true to the universe and the character, even if it's not always fun or convenient.
 
I don't read fan fiction, but I'm not against it in all forms either.

Developing your own characters and setting does have its advantages. Not only will it train your skills at characterization and setting construction, but you actually get more creative leeway than working within an established canon. On the other hand, speculating about existing stories can be entertaining if you're a fan of them. Just recently, I was musing over how Batman would be different if he did have superpowers (e.g. echolocation or the ability to fly, in keeping with his bat motif). I haven't written fan fiction for that yet and don't plan to, but if they really have to do another Batman reboot in the next decade or so, I wouldn't mind someone considering that idea.

And it's not like fan fiction is a new development. I'm willing to bet a lot of old myths were fan fiction for the gods of their respective cultures.
 
Fanfics aren't a concept that's doomed from conception, but 99.99% of the time they end up a disaster.

What I find most often is that nobody really has anything interesting to do with these characters, they just want to write with these characters. Its incredibly boring to read, with tons of unnatural dialogue, and gobs of exposition.

Don't write fanfiction if you are just going to have the characters sit around chatting like high school girls, or throw exposition at us all day.
 
A quality Sonichu fanfiction by one of those self-proclaimed fanfiction critics. Comes with riveting exposition and top-notch worldbuilding, not for the faint of heart

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A quality Sonichu fanfiction by one of those self-proclaimed fanfiction critics. Comes with riveting exposition and top-notch worldbuilding, not for the faint of heart

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I'm sorry, but regarding WTF I just wasted my time on here - this idea sounds like he (@DespicableFool) at the very least, needs a "Verified" label for thinking his shit is interesting to project OPL into like this... Not without more time, blood, sweat, and work put into it, at least, if he must try to improve it at all.
 
I've kinda wanted to get into writing myself.

Gotta say, I do really feel the concerns about characterization when it comes to fanfic. Sometimes it gets to the point where there's fanfics that literally replace or add an OC... that completely fail to impact the events that are often just recaps of existing stories within the franchise.

Similarly bad are the "name swap" crossovers where we just have some guys from something else re-enact the exact events.

Did think of some things one could do to improve writing in an established universe:

- Take notes! Even if you think you know about a character well enough, go through whatever media they appear in, take notes on how they act and talk, perhaps even pull some quotes to revise over and get a better idea of how they work.

- If you're going to put (x) in (y) then damnit, make it impact something. This was sorta done in Futurama with a parody of the Wizard of Oz, granted many of the events played out similarly enough but it still had a very Futurama flair and Leela's less than perfectly virtuous nature plays a part in the ending and the "confrontation" with the Wicked Witch ("There's no place like-- Iwannabeawitch!") if anything, take something like that further.
I mean if you put... say, Wario in LOTR, would he really give a crap about destroying the ring rather than using it to steal everyone's treasures and valuables? I mean you could still have key events play out by mostly accident but still, if you're going to put one guy in another thing, exploit it, take advantage of their differences.
 
Oh, I know this feeling. Especially with a lot of cartoons that I actually like that everyone else hates, overall

For example, one of current favorites to sit down to that no one cares about is Penn Zero - Part-Time Hero... I actually fucking love this show way more than the shit that's actually popular, because it actually knows what to do with it's fucking concept, unlike Star Vs. The Forces of Evil (which is overrated and forgettable as fuck, IMHO.) - and all I can go to these attempts at fix fics (AKA time wasted that could have been used to write real fanfics), IMHO, is...
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11336171/1/Totally-Into-Your-Body-Alternate-Ending

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11177498/1/The-Fast-and-the-Floor-Rugs-Alternate-Ending

What is it with kids' shows and people trying to be edgy with them? It just pisses me off and makes these cartoons I actually like look like complete overdramatic, whiny, immature, & pretentious BS that no one in the target audience needs to ever see. Thanks, fuckers.

The only solace I take in all of this is that this show I like isn't all that popular, hence not a lot of crappy fanfiction for it. Fucking still, man...
 
Some people though write fanfic (and I'd put myself in that catagory) who have no intention of being authors, but just for fun. For the "what if" type of thing, or because they really like a character, and want to see more of them. So "write your own characters!" definitely misses the point for a lot of people. Some have absolutely no desire to do so, and just want to play around.
(I'm probably in the minority though: I cannot for the life of me get into "Methods of Rationality". It seemed too pretentious and more about the author beating people over the head with his pet theories than the actual story. )

And let's face it, I'd rather read good fanfic (it's out there) than something like Maradonia. (Although all clopfic has to go)
 
Role duel, or RP duel?

Legit, though, RPing in WoW was so crazy that it wasn't even fun half the time. Though, one time I did bang Jaina's identical twin in Lion's Pride Inn...

It was pretty up and down. We mostly avoided Goldshire and Stormwind on account of the demi-demons, power-emoters, and bunny hoppers. RP became way more fun when done elsewhere. At times things got a bit grim, but then I'd see someone walking and my faith would be restored. Actually just popped back in to WoW, after a couple of years out, and was pleasantly surprised to bump in to quite a few role-players.

The big problems with RP in WoW stemmed from how Blizzard managed the servers. They didn't really make it clear what it was all about and did little to nothing to police the server rules. Really they should have reduced the number of RP servers and made it more difficult to inadvertently join them, as most RP servers were full of people who probably didn't even know the server type they joined.
 
I wrote shitty SAO fanfiction because I can't focus on writing what I was trying to write. It serves the purpose of shitting on both the main character, and every shitty OC that people write for everything.

The general premise is that the narrator shits on everyone, literally. It asserts his dominance.

Update: I have one review, 25 views, and 22 visitors.
"Best.

Story.

Ever.

10/10 - IGN"

It also has a favorite. wtf?
 
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I write fanfics, but I don't bug people on NoPrivacyBook or anything about it. I just leave it on the website and let it be reviewed. I use it to test out plotlines for my writing.

I see no reason to begrudge people what they enjoy.

You like fanfic writing? Okay. This does not affect me on a personal level. Continue if you wish. If you don't continue, still Okay.
 
I think fanfiction isn't just literature based anymore. Technically speaking, look at the Source Filmmaker community. Wouldn't you consider that fanfiction in of itself? It's fanmade videos with fanmade plotlines and such. The same goes for fanfics. It's just fanmade stories with fanmade plotlines. While a lot can suck and be unoriginal, I respect the idea that people start out trying to make these things. It's silly to get worked up and mad over fanfiction, either. In the end, I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
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