I really, really hate fan fiction.

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Abethedemon dijo:
He's somewhat of an eldritch entity, that is more threatened to be summoned than show up. I also think that writing a fan fiction could;d be an interesting field to hone my world building skills, because I would be basing something off of an existing universe, but only slightly.
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So... why even relate it to the series in the slightest if it's going to be so independent from it? And why can't the entity just merely be an eldritch abomination?

And isn't world building better when you have NO limitation due to canon and other such things?

Abethedemon dijo:
That's the point, the human is supposed to be completely alien to the rest of the cast, who aren't human at all.
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Then why Horses? They could be aliens or eldritchian beasts themselves.

Actually, lemme just say it now: why ponify Conan anyway?
 
Adamska dijo:
So... why even relate it to the series in the slightest if it's going to be so independent from it? And why can't the entity just merely be an eldritch abomination?

And isn't world building better when you have NO limitation due to canon and other such things?
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I agree with what you're saying, but I think that tweaking a world is actually very interesting. But maybe making them obscure races of humans would be cool. I'm going to have serpent people and a race of the undead as well, so maybe it would be good if I kept it as humans, but still included things such as a magical race and a world in eternal dawn.
 
Yeah. Besides, even the argument that humans are eldritch creatures to ponies falls flat.

Spike and pretty much any dragon that has an upright stance and the right amount of legs has been portrayed as a biped with hands and opposable thumbs. Discord is an upright biped with hands and opposable thumbs. The ponies take stances and make poses that look like an upright biped all the time. Best-case scenario, they'd look at an actual human and go "Oh, hey, some creature that stands up. Weird." Worst-case scenario, they'd look at a human and go "Hey, hairless monkeys. Weird."
 
Cure Quanta dijo:
Yeah. Besides, even the argument that humans are eldritch creatures to ponies falls flat.

Spike and pretty much any dragon that has an upright stance and the right amount of legs has been portrayed as a biped with hands and opposable thumbs. Discord is an upright biped with hands and opposable thumbs. The ponies take stances and make poses that look like an upright biped all the time. Best-case scenario, they'd look at an actual human and go "Oh, hey, some creature that stands up. Weird." Worst-case scenario, they'd look at a human and go "Hey, hairless monkeys. Weird."
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My original idea was actually that the human would be known as the beastmaster and basically be a farmer that would try and rule over the ponies as he did once long ago. I think going with humans would be a better idea.
 
not to sperg too long on this, but another aspect of the beastmaster is that he's been turned into somewhat of a boogeyman over the years, generating a more eldritch persona than in real life.
 
When the author includes notes at the end of every other paragraph. Not even footnotes that are referenced. Full, paragraph-length notes. In the middle of the damn story. In nice bold letters. Trying to explain something that a fan of the source material would know.

In other news, I read an exceptional SAO/WoW crossover today. And by exceptional, I mean I wanted to stab my eyes out.

Still not as bad as most of the Pokemon ones, but its up there...
 
Its not so much the actual fanfic that turns me off as it is fanfic authors who throw fits when the real author of whatever they're fanficing takes an antifanfic stance. Its worse when the fanficers go off on how copyright should be abolished.

Interestingly, I cited comparisons between HPL and ERB. One opened his mythos and the other kept a tight grip on his series. None of the fanficers seemed able to comprehend the idea that some authors actually depend on their works for a living...smh
 
Mmmh,I think fanfiction is pretty alright. Sure there are going to be a lot of crappy fanfics, but once in a while you come across something pretty nice. I personally like it because it gives me a chance to immerse myself in a fandom that I like or recently got in to. Plus, I like to be Creative and allow myself to wonder what might happen to the characters if certain things were changed in their universe.
 
soIregistered dijo:
Does anyone ACTUALLY respect fan fiction? I have friends who take their fan fiction SO FUCKING SERIOUSLY. I kind of want to sit them down and say....look....no one fucking cares. No one takes this seriously. Every one of your friends on Facebook is tired of being tagged when you get a new idea for Powerpuff Girls meets Donald Duck meets Boba Fett & the Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy. People reach these almost CWC levels of delusion, like "There are four people on fanfiction.net who are REALLY INTO my new story!".

I hate fan fiction. Actual writers hate fan fiction. Unless you're that moron that wrote Fifty Shades of Grey (y'know, that great piece of literature), no one is going to give you a job based on your fan fiction. Can you imagine trying to get a job at Marvel comics and being like "I can send you my Spider-Man/Buzz Lightyear/Godzilla story from fanfiction.net!"

It's all shit! There's no quality control! And eventually it just devolves into characters fucking!

I FUCKING HATE FAN FICTION!! :briefs:
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Every fandom has its rotten apples, and yes, I agree to an extent, those mentioned extremes are annoying and should just shut up and write their shit, and not shove it in peoples' faces. Fan fiction should not be taken too seriously in any event, just fucking write it and be happy if someone likes it and be grateful that you're free to write what you want in the first place. I write slash fiction myself and I believe it's average at best, though I do get better little by little. I take it as a compliment when a commenter tells me they got off to my fic or that it was a hot read.

I find it funny that the people who hate fan fiction, especially slash, REALLY hate it. Haven't you heard? The internet is for porn. Horny women writing slash is no different from horny guys watching two girls having sexy fun times. We just, you know, like some fluff and some feels thrown in the mix and with that we're all set for a mighty orgasm.

(And here I thought you would respond with something intellectual, instead of just rating it dumb. Shame on me I guess.)
 
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That's because guys don't like gay sex, usually. And who wants badly-written crap, anyway?

That said, I'm obviously not judging YOUR material automatically. Slash can be done well, it's just that it really needs to stop having poor ratings - at least, when people write FF.n porn, they put it on M, but when it's slash, somehow it becomes a good idea to put it on T.
 
A Random dijo:
That's because guys don't like gay sex, usually. And who wants badly-written crap, anyway?

That said, I'm obviously not judging YOUR material automatically. Slash can be done well, it's just that it really needs to stop having poor ratings - at least, when people write FF.n porn, they put it on M, but when it's slash, somehow it becomes a good idea to put it on T.
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I'm sorry, but, guys not liking gay sex? Shocking. I understand guys hating on it if it gets shoved in their faces, like OP wrote. Takes me about one or two paragraphs when reading a fic to determine if the author's stuff is worth reading or not. Not reading crap does not take effort.

I fully agree with you on when writing fan fiction you HAVE to be able to rate it well. When an author can't even rate their own stuff I highly doubt they should be writing in the first place. That's why I don't bother posting on FF.n to begin with, since they don't allow porn, but yet people post it all over. The raging teen hormones are strong on FF.n.
 
I really enjoy when fanfiction writers bump my two year old post and defend your slash fiction and furry yaoi magnum opuses and what not as super cool and beyond reproach because I'm just a big, fan-fiction hating meanie. Carry on, fanfickers, you princes of the internet, you.
 
soIregistered dijo:
I really enjoy when fanfiction writers bump my two year old post and defend your slash fiction and furry yaoi magnum opuses and what not as super cool and beyond reproach because I'm just a big, fan-fiction hating meanie. Carry on, fanfickers, you princes of the internet, you.
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I don't know dude, I was actually saying that I understand where you were coming from with your post. If you choose to ignore that, that's fine. I neither think that writing fan fiction is super cool or beyond reproach. Also, now I know not to quote old posts, even if the subject matter is interesting.
 
I've tried my hand at some fanfics (Namely GTA 5 fanfics detailing Trevor and Michael's life before the game's events) but never actually published it on a website. The only FF's I've published are...well, "Cwcville Vice: Paradise Lost", but that's really just a troll fic lol. I never really "got" actual fanfiction, to be honest. Introducing an original character to one of the main characters from the franchise or show or whatever you're writing about just seems like escapism to me. The only good fanfics I've read are troll fics of Sonichu and the odd fictional short story of characters from a show, game, or other media. Everything else is just a 13 year old's fantasy it seems.
 
The Purple Penis: A Kiwi Tale (names censored so I don't get banned)

One day, N*ll was walking down the street and found a purple penis dildo. The inscription said it belonged to D***gleD*d*20, so N*ll went over to his house and they experimented for a few hours. They were then sore and butthurt all over so they decided to go their seperate ways.

End of Chapter

I found this somewhere, no clue who wrote it though.
 
Man, when you boil it down, fanfiction is just another highly accessible creative outlet. I'm not a fan (heh) of it either since I don't have a lot of time to read so when I read, I want assurance it's going to be quality and, given the somewhat lowered standard that the free-for-all fanfiction is, it becomes harder to invest in it.

Here's the thing though, fanfiction, like many other forms of creative expression, is often a form of exploration for young writers.

And fuck, is it self serving. That's why there's tonnes of writers who write a lot and their work gets like two pageviews apiece. It's almost like a safe place for them, something they can use to express themselves and explore things like sexuality and romance more actively than reading about it. There's tonnes of creative writing mediums that do the same thing; online text-based role-play forums are havens of 13-20somethings literally doing the same thing with a soundboard kind of element. Neither of these are actual publishable writing. It's generally not written to be published unless you're some delusional fuck like Wogglebugloveproductions or something.

But that's the thing, exploration is a long, awkward process and it often has some bizarre outcomes - especially if you're exploring fetishes (oh, the things I could show you when I started researching teratophilia...) or things without a sexual nature. That's why Mpreg is a popular element in fanfiction - my armchair psychologist really sees a lot of these young girls who are uncomfortable with the changes and new capacities of their bodies and seek to explore it by imposing it on something they have idealized, almost like removing other factors from the situation to focus solely on this concept of carrying a child. I think it might well be a similar thing for why gay romance and 'shipping' is so popular; it's dissociative.

Fanfiction is akin to real writing what your penis drawings on the desk at college are to fine art. They're the same medium with a wholly different purpose in mind.
 
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