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I Murder Wasps: How Is This Different Than Bombing Iran?​

While wasps may cause me harm, they also have a legitimate function in the larger world of nature, a function often hidden to us humans, limited as we are in our perspective about the world we inhabit—and often destroy—mindless to the larger repercussions.
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So far this spring, well armed with a can of some horrifically noxious-smelling, lethal substance, I have killed multiple red paper wasps.

I’ve honed the technique to perfection: I see a wasp flitting around, grab the can, carefully follow it (likely a her, the queen, at this time of the year) around, knowing the wasp will fairly soon come to rest on something, and then . . . within seconds, it is writhing on the ground in a fit of whatever wasp-agony feels like.

Every once in a while, the wandering insect will lead me to a nest, and thus I commit waspicide many times over.

Yes, a sense of relief fills me. So does guilt. I am, rightly, terrified of a wasp sting—one got to me last year, and my arm was swollen and painful for three weeks, plus I’m prone to anaphylaxis, a genuinely scary and life-threatening reaction.

And yet . . .

No wasps directly attacked me. Ever.​

I’m also aware that not one of the wasps I murdered had directly attacked me. These ferocious stinging creatures are beneficial to the environment, especially for the many Peggy Martin Roses that I have all over my yard. In addition, the wasps and their larvae are food for other living organisms such as cardinals, starlings, woodpeckers, praying mantises, dragonflies, and some mammals.

In other words, while these wasps may cause me harm, they also have a legitimate function in the larger world of nature, a function often hidden to us humans, limited as we are in our perspective about the world we inhabit—and often destroy—mindless to the larger repercussions.

Could this be the never-ending challenge of being human with evolutionarily unusual destructive abilities? That we consistently carry and too often act on the temptation to use whatever power we may have, or hope we have, to destroy anything we imagine might threaten us?

Here’s the problem: the ingrained fear of anything different, anything that might make us face our hubris that our way, and only our way, matters; anything that might prove us wrong with long-held beliefs.

This recent Wall Street Journal article about increased enforcement of “right-think” in China serves as a powerful and sad metaphor for the human condition.

A revealing snippet from the article:

The new law adopted by China’s rubber-stamp legislature on Thursday mandates the Communist Party to ensure the country’s 55 officially recognized ethnic minorities embrace a common language and culture centered on the country’s Han Chinese majority. It cements Xi’s reversal of decades-old ethnic policies that had tolerated more expressions of diversity.

The law on “promoting ethnic unity and progress” prescribes efforts to build a “shared spiritual home” for all ethnic groups. This includes the use of standard Chinese as the primary language in schools and public settings, and programs to promote official narratives on history, ethnicity and religion, according to the adopted text published by state media.

The law also requires parents and guardians to teach minors to love the Communist Party and the motherland. It authorizes the imposition of legal penalties on officials and institutions that neglect their duties to foster national unity, as well as on people deemed to have sown ethnic discord or engaged in separatist acts.

Echoes of anti-diversity efforts in the US​

Many echoes here of the anti-diversity effort that has taken over much of the US, where it has become increasingly mandatory that no views differing from the “usual” worm their way into the ears and brains of those who currently hold power.

Uniformity takes on the highest value; differing ideas or ways of seeing the world, economics, politics, religion, or society mean exclusion, even expulsion. Echo chambers grow into desired commodities; comfort without challenge explodes in desirability.

Yes, it’s easier. I’ve lived in that world—my many years in the far-right niche of evangelicalism where the slightest deviation from the “absolutely true doctrines of the faith” earned an eternal seat at the shunned table. In other words, disagree and face elimination. I paid the price—“heresy is mine, saith the Christy.”

But I do ask: is it healthy to live without diversity: diversity of species, of climate, of cultures, of opinions? In the long run, it was far healthier for me, but my experience is not necessarily universal.
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What is threatening? How do we decide?​

How do we decide when an opinion or action “may” be threatening to our very existence? When is the first strike the most legitimate choice? What about the harm that such a first strike causes to the innocent? How does one measure and manage the collateral damage?

How much is too much? Who makes those decisions? Who advises them? What kind of expertise do they have? What hidden agendas lurk behind their words? What passion for power, legitimate or illegitimate, undergirds the whisperings, the subtle nudges in one direction or another?

Any student of history knows that the most destructive of wars has been precipitated by the most petty of reasons. And yes, sometimes those wars are necessary; sometimes the wasps must die—maybe.

But I still ask, as I sit in my moral dilemma—why is my life worth more than the wasp’s, especially when it has not directly attacked me?

Would love some thoughts from others here.
 
The same people telling you that Iran plays a necessary role in the global ecosystem are the same ones who'd be the most assblasted if you said that the US is an apex predator and should act as such.
Yeah, this.

Like another natural process is extinction.

Science ignorant hippies screech about extinction and how it can never happen on our watch but it's always been a thing and always will be a thing. Whether or not we're involved. Their beloved evolution is extinction par excellence. Every adaptation that survives and becomes standard leaves behind a blast crater of extinction, of subspecies that just couldn't hack it in competition with the more successful variety.

Idk maybe surreptitiously funding terrorism in your neighbors and fucking with the US and her interests is just something that's destined to go extinct, if we really want to strain this dumb metaphor to its limits.
 
Look, I’m very much a tree hugger, and any birdies, bees or hornets or butterflies that get trapped in my greenhouse will get gently escorted to freedom, but I’m full Total Wasp Death if they’re within the bounds of my property. Any wasp nest I see starting off gets knocked down and nuked. I took four out last summer, all by myself with a long stick and some spray. it was like waspmageddon. They’ve got all the rest of the world to build their nests in, you try it in my garage, or in my greenhouse, the Raid is coming out.
If you ever revived multiple wasp stings at once you’ll know how dangerous they are . It can kill you. They do attack, they’re not like bees who are chill and don’t go for you.
This article smells of Effective Altruism
There are three things that I kill on my property, mice, moles and wasps/hornets. The mice have to get into structures before I kill them. The moles tear up my garden and their evacuated tunnels are perfect for ground hornets to move into. The above, I don't poison so as to not effect the food chain. Wasps and hornets though, its on site with poison spray, wiffle ball bats, gasoline, shotgun, idc what.
 
Yeah, this whole article falls apart when you rightfully realize a singular wasp is still 100x more important to the ecosystem than the entirety of Muslim history is to humanity.
Im curious, what role do they play in the ecosystem? as far as i can tell all they do is piss me the fuck off.
 
Muslims are right about atheists
female "progressive Christian"
nigga what

I mean, I knew they were like that, it's just surprising to see one go mask off in a gay thinkpiece.
 
Wasps have a function? What is that, exactly? They aren't bees so don't bother saying they are. These are the unemployed cousins of bees!

As far as attacking Iran, haven't they aggressed against multiple US Navy ships? I don't give a fuck if we're in your waters. Send someone out in a rowboat and ask the US Navy to leave politely. This is just payback for taking our sailors prisoner.
 
"I used to run beauty pageants for teenage girls. How is this different from bombing a girls' school in Iran?" Donald Trump, probably
 
What is threatening? How do we decide?
Here’s the problem: the ingrained fear of anything different, anything that might make us face our hubris that our way, and only our way, matters; anything that might prove us wrong with long-held beliefs.
But I do ask: is it healthy to live without diversity: diversity of species, of climate, of cultures, of opinions?
Tapping the "progressives pretend to not understand things" sign.

It's not because Islam is "different". It's because Islam is a moronic, cruel, hateful, violent death cult that is anathema to mercy or rationality.

The mere fact that they are brown is beside the point. If Muslims were white, I would still despise them.

If I have learned anything from Kiwi Farms since I joined during the Summer of Floyd all those years ago, it is that some people are hated and ostracized for a very good reason. It's not some capricious, irrational scapegoat-picking just for the sake of being mean. It is a self-preserving response to caustic and unacceptable behavior.
 
Pest/population control of insects like catapillers, aphids, and spiders. Some species also pollinate as well, but most are best at being dick heads (pest control).
If i need to pick, i'm having the spider be my pest control bro.
 
...aren't hornets the aggressive ones?

I think a lot of people equivocate on wasps and hornets because they're both the "not bees and can bite" critters, but the ones that are always making nuisances of themselves are hornets, they typically look more like bees whereas wasps tend to be pretty gangly.

Wasps also have never given me problems, only hornets.
 
...aren't hornets the aggressive ones?

I think a lot of people equivocate on wasps and hornets because they're both the "not bees and can bite" critters, but the ones that are always making nuisances of themselves are hornets, they typically look more like bees whereas wasps tend to be pretty gangly.

Wasps also have never given me problems, only hornets.
hornets are worse but wasps are still a menace they'll blunder into your house and get stuck and buzz around threateningly they're real pieces of work honestly like bro who invited you in
 
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