I don't know what to say 06/04/20 - "not at the beginning stage"

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I’ll break this up since it’s long.

Somebody said they don’t remove the uterus through the vagina. They do, and not only that, will probably try to do that in Amber’s case.

Vaginal hysterectomy is a surgical procedure to remove the uterus through the vagina.


Staging: first, they will send her organs and nearby (sentinel) lymph nodes to the path lab to see if cancer cells are in there. If not, it’s a good sign that the disease hasn’t spread and in somebody big like Amber, they will likely rely on that and she’s done. If they do see cells, they would want to do radiation, and maybe a PET scan. (If the nodes are negative, or they only find a cell or two, in somebody like her, they might do preventative radiation only as treatment would be hard.)

A PET is a specialized scan -a person is injected with a radioactive sugar that reacts with faster growing cancer cells and shows where cancer is-(other scans you have to know where it is.)

The problem with PET is it has a 350 lb weight limit. It’s like a CT or MRI but has double the rings. There are no open PETs. They do make them for very obese patients but they are not common. Has Amber ever has a CT or MRI before? If so that’s a good sign that the hospital deals with a lot of obese patients and may have one. Chemo would be done at a later stage which won’t be known until surgery. They probably will want to do surgery in the next couple of months, although with Amber it’s hard. They might need MRIs for planning, which may take longer, etc.

Somebody asked if her cancer could have spread from elsewhere and landed in her uterus. It happens but it’s highly unlikely. By the time that would happen, the primary cancer would have long been discovered.

Somebody else said that pre-cancers were cancers but that is not true. The most you could call them is tumor markers. They are unusual looking cells, but there is no indication that they could grow, spread, and kill, which is what makes cancer so dangerous. Many people with pre-cancer can watch and wait and it goes away. Sometimes a cancer will grow there but there are no stats on how often. Many get it treated because they are scared and start saying it’s cancer, but it isn’t. Cancer is dangerous because it spreads. Pre-cancer does not.
The thing about being so fat is Amber already has a bunch of co-morbidities. Her bladder infections could have been bladder infections. Her pain could have been pain from fatness. It may have been disease but it may not. So docs can’t say,oh, you have a backache? Let’s rush you into a scan machine because of course her back will hurt. It’s never been more important that she get to a normal weight because once a person has cancer, even a slow-growing one, they always worry about more. Being a normal weight makes it possible to treat promptly.

I’m pressing x on Amber doing that though.

Female cancers are cervical, uterine(endometrial), ovarian, and breast, although men can get breast cancer. Cervical and uterine cancers are slower-growing, as are some types of breast-cancer. (Although they grow so Jen’s a liar.). They usually make themselves known with symptoms -like heavy bleeding. Ovarian is different, more dangerous. It’s usually found later because it’s almost symptomless, there are no easy tests for it so it’s found later. Main treatment is surgery but it grows back often and it constantly has to be debulked, plus chemo of course.

Amber is so dumb she doesn’t know a womb is a uterus. (I said in an earlier thread she probably thinks she pees from her vagina and I’m not kidding). So it’s slightly possible that it’s cervical. I doubt it’s ovary because I’m not convinced she even understands enough anatomy to know it. She did say uterus, likely a repeat from a doctor (who wouldn’t say womb) so I’m going with that.
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Somebody should tell her to ask for every path and surgical report. Those belong to her and are helpful for learning what’s going on. She never will but keep in mind if you or loved ones get cancer. It’s so helpful to have that paperwork. They will offer her a case worker and somebody to help figure out the money. Whether she can get Medicaid now or not I don’t know. Cancer treatment can be millions of dollars if it’s bad (hers won’t be) but it’s at least a hundred thousand. A PET alone is about 7k. They have social workers to help sort those things out, so she needs to seek it out early if it’s not offered. There are also online groups than know plenty and she should find one and not rely on her followers.
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Last thing: I’m slightly sympathetic because cancer is awful and it’s a whirlwind at first. She’s too dumb to figure it out, in her mind cancer=death. She won’t be able to put it in perspective or understand if/when they tell her she’s in a good spot.

My sympathy ends there, as the first thing she did was go online-she never got insurance in spite of being a death fat, and everybody reminding her when it was time, and when she calms she’ll milk this with all she has. I have no doubt this girl who flexed $1500 and refused insurance will soon be posting GoFundMes. There are a lot more deserving people, and she had many chances to protect herself. If she had insurance this would have cost about what she had in that wallet, now it’ll be 100x that. She may not deserve cancer but she does deserve financial ruin.
 
Damn, that sucks for Amber, but she's been making light of her health issues for quite a long time now, took a goddamn menstrual tsunami for her to finally take things seriously.

That said, I do hope for the best outcome for her. To quote my favorite video game character, "What can I say? I am an eternal optimist."
 
She may very well survive. But it could require a full hysterectomy. To be fair though, I doubt she was using her uterus anyway and the world is probably made better by her never doing so.
 
I think you are confusing cervical with ovarian. Cervical has an 81% 5 year survival rate and is typically found on a gym visit. It’s ovarian thats hard to find, plus it has amorphous symptoms like bloating. Who the hell doesn’t have bloating.
I know many, many people with female cancers and so far, nobody has died of cervical. Lots of ovarian. That said, none were 500 lbs...
It's that "none were 500 pounds" where this gets so alarming. The simplest thing to treat becomes an absolute fucking nightmare once you have a BMI over 50. Just sperging here, because I've inexplicably been thinking about Amberlynn's uterus since seeing that video.

My fear is that Amber has been showing signs of uterine cancer for years and she, as well as others, interpreted horrible bleeds, foul discharge and odor, bloat, back pain and bladder problems as just the end result of being so obese. Her 70 pound weight loss that she never discussed while it was happening - and she talks about nothing but her weight loss when she's consciously losing weight - is also alarming if it's linked to cancer. Even if she has one of the less aggressive sorts of uterine cancer, two years of that brewing around in a body that is, basically, a fat cell toxic dump, I wonder if anyone can really predict the outcome. Fuck, I suspect the only reason a diagnosis was made so quickly is because the ER was able to get up in there, so to speak - if this had been, say, her pancreas, requiring a biopsy from the outside-in, who knows how long it would take to find out because there's no way any type of scan can penetrate all the fat she has around her organs, so there's no way an ultrasound would produce an image clear enough for a surgeon to target a specific area to biopsy.

How many women as fat as Amber have presented with uterine cancer? How many her size present with cancer, period. I suspect most of them just limp along and die undiagnosed because they're so fat they don't really experience the pain and misery the way a person who is fit does when they begin to sicken with cancer. Just keyboard warrior-ing on Google and I can't even find basic studies about any form of cancer detected and treated in patients with BMIs between 80 and 90. Most studies about the outcome of obesity and cancer study obesity in terms of "class one" obesity, meaning just looking at those who have a BMI between 30-34.99.

I really wonder if even the expertiest of experts knows what to do when someone like Amberlynn comes in spewing chunks vaginally. I don't think they could remove her uterus vaginally but even if they can, how can they make sure it hasn't spread to her bladder or ovaries since Amberlynn most definitely has more than the 8 cm of sub-q fat that is the upper limit for the imaging capacities of most devices, from ultrasound to PET.

I'm also now wondering how long she's been experiencing symptoms - possibly longer than initially expected. She's made such a show about how tiny her vaginal canal is. What if she interpreted terrible pain from any sort of insertion as a sign she's a dainty lass and not that she's got something very wrong brewing in her uterus? Could this predate her time with Becky?

Hopefully she will be able to calm herself and share details, like the stage, the sort of cancer (clear cell carcinoma and she's fucked), treatment plan, etc. I also hope she ends up being able to afford any sort of medical care she can scrape together in Kentucky.

I really did think she would go down via septicemia from cellulitis from skin fold infections. This is grim.
 
You know whats funny to me? How hypocritical people are when cancer is mentioned, suddenly you are forgiven of all your sins simply as a ward to keep the cancer gremlin away cause heaven forbid a person having cancer and being a shit person who is getting whats coming to her arent mutually exclusive.
If she didnt have cancer today those same cunts would be shittalking her.
 
All the people I personally knew that went through chemo lost a lot of weight, but this is Amber so who knows.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. They show a drop in their weight, but an increase in their body fat. The two are mutually inclusive, cos you can lose muscle and gain fat from inactivity. Chemo makes you just not want to move, it's awfully rough

My feelings on her aside, I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
Not to be a daft cunt, but would they just say fuck it and put her in an MRI built for animals at this stage? Surely she has to be assessed somehow.
I was going to make a snarky comment about where the nearest zoo is in Kentucky just last night. Funny how things turn out.
Well, they can do an MRI in a jumbotron machine, but a biopsy is the only definitive way to know what sort of cancer it is. Most people they lop out le toomur and biopsy it in a lab after and determine the chemo type/duration from there, if needed. She's so fat though even a GA for a regular ol' biopsy has a solid chance of killing her, either from the anaesthetic or post op complications of her getting le coof in hospital



Being fat is a fucking death sentence, kids


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At this point I would say go with the medical study someone posted a bit back, do the weight loss surgery if you can find a surgeon, and give yourself a chance to lose enough weight to be treated for the cancer. She claimed (...) she had saved a big chunk of money for private surgery, but if she spent her savings getting wls, would she then be able to apply for the insurance based on financial need? Her savings would be gone on medical bills for the weight loss (which a lot of insurance won't cover) but would then be able to get her help for the cancer treatment? I'm not US based, but it might give her a chance? Certainly addressing at least some of the weight quickly would.
 
Fuck dude, I'm so sorry about that.
I hope you're doing well now :feels:
Cancer is not the death sentence it once was, so long as its caught early and you get it treated accordingly.
Even with Kidney cancer I didnt freak as much, thing is Amber is 10 years old and very very needy this is going to b e something that will finally crack the fag shanty foundation.
 
Being :optimistic: here, let's say she starves herself big time and her weight plummets because of the cancer (and she lives), how long do you reckon it'll take for her to gain the weight back?
She reckons this is her "Big wake up call", but I can guarantee that if they do manage to save her, she'll be back to her old habits in no time.
It's like those people who have to have a tracheostomy because they've smoked all their lives and the first thing they do when they get out of hospital is smoke through their throat vag.

@Xenomorph I can't edit in the quote because I'm a moron, but I'm glad you're okay bud. I know showing concern is a faggy thing to, but I don't like to see anyone suffer. :feels:
 
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You know whats funny to me? How hypocritical people are when cancer is mentioned, suddenly you are forgiven of all your sins simply as a ward to keep the cancer gremlin away cause heaven forbid a person having cancer and being a shit person who is getting whats coming to her arent mutually exclusive.
If she didnt have cancer today those same cunts would be shittalking her.

It's not quite hypocrisy, they're frightened by the capriciousness of it and the fact that it could've happened to them. If she would've had a heart attack, there would be less sympathy because it would be easy to say, well, I'm not four hundred pounds overweight, can't happen to me ...
 
Well, being over weight increases your chances of getting cancer, so I’m not in shock.
 
Not sure why everyone is feeling so bad for Becky? This could be her way out of this relationship!

Also, cancer is not a guarantee that Amber will get down to a healthy weight. She could also pull a Jen and get fatter while her "cancer" incubates for years at a low stage. I am going to wait this out and see how it plays out before I start feeling super bad for her.
 
Hope all the orange chicken and sassy comebacks to “haters” who told you that this would happen were worth it, gorl.
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At this point I would say go with the medical study someone posted a bit back, do the weight loss surgery if you can find a surgeon, and give yourself a chance to lose enough weight to be treated for the cancer. She claimed (...) she had saved a big chunk of money for private surgery, but if she spent her savings getting wls, would she then be able to apply for the insurance based on financial need? Her savings would be gone on medical bills for the weight loss (which a lot of insurance won't cover) but would then be able to get her help for the cancer treatment? I'm not US based, but it might give her a chance? Certainly addressing at least some of the weight quickly would.

It would be easier to just get a hysterectomy, I am sure. That will be her best bet if it hasn't spread outside the uterus. It is difficult to get insurance these days with a pre-existing condition, so she can private insurance (pricey) or apply for fast track medicare. The way she flexes, doesn't seem she will be eligible for Medicaid.
 
Indeed the video looks very emotional and convincing... But personally, I'm not going to jump to any conclusions at this point because of obvious reasons.

I'm very curious how Becky would handle any medical issues of this magnitude with her being both the de facto caregiver and enabler... Would she continue providing Amber with her drug of choice (food) even after it's proven and confirmed that is a life and death decision or will she finally put her foot down and say "no"?

I know some people have speculated that if a serious medical complication like this actually happened to Amber, it would push Becky to leave her...

The other thing I'm curious about is the family... I'm not up to date if AL's aunt still participates on here but I'm wondering if she told her and in turn will she share any information.
As well as Becky's family, they love airing their dirty laundry on social media and I'm wondering if they would mention anything on the topic. And they claimed AL has helped them when Norma was diagnosed so I would hope they would do the same in return...
 
It's not quite hypocrisy, they're frightened by the capriciousness of it and the fact that it could've happened to them. If she would've had a heart attack, there would be less sympathy because it would be easy to say, well, I'm not four hundred pounds overweight, can't happen to me ...
Her morbid obesity caused this cancer tho. They're just virtue signaling. no one wants to be the heartless bitch who says she deserves cancer. If she did die of a heart attack, they would still act so sad and sorry.
 
Yikes...just yikes. Like others said, cancer is something I would never wish on even my worst enemy. I had lost a friend to a rare form of cancer last year so I should know. However, it’s sad that this had to happen as the ultimate wake up call to Amber. She rolled the dice too much on her health and gambled on every thing she did wrong and now it came back to bite her.
 
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