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FX Networks reported how they plan to approach trans characters in Y: The Last Man. The 2021 television series is adapted from a comic book series that goes by the same name. The publication of the series went from 2002 to 2008 over the course of sixty issues. Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Guerra created the source material that was originally going to be made into a feature film. However, Y: The Last Man ultimately got acquired by FX Networks to be made into a television series.

Y: The Last Man is set in a world where a mysterious apocalyptic event leads to the death of all mammals with a Y chromosome. They don't know how this occurred, but Yorick Brown (Ben Schnetzer) continues to press on with a monkey by his side. With the world now primarily being made up of women, Yorick begins to work with them to put some sense of a society back together. Eliza Clark (Animal Kingdom) is the showrunner working on the series, with a premiere date of September 13 on FX on Hulu.

As reported by THR, Clark and FX chairman John Landgraf talked about how they plan on approaching a fuller sense of the gender spectrum. Landgraf explained how society's understanding of gender has changed since the source material was released. A lot of work went into ensuring that the show was approaching the subject matter in a way that is nuanced and well-informed. Clark emphasized that the show made a conscious effort to ensure that trans men, trans women, and nonbinary characters are explored in a way that is rich and complex. Read on below for Landgraf and Clark's statements:

Landgraf: “A lot has changed since the graphic novel. One of the things the show will make clear is that there are women with two X chromosomes and men with an X and Y chromosome — but there are also women with two Y chromosomes and men with two X chromosomes. So what happened was all the mammals with a Y chromosome — with the exception of this one man and this one monkey — died in one event. But there are numerous men in the show that had two X chromosomes, and they’re important characters. It’s also made clear that a number of women died that day who had a Y chromosome and probably didn’t even know it. Even the show’s title has to be explained and contextualized in a much different way than it was. We’ve worked really closely with GLAAD and other organizations and taken a lot of input, and we’ve worked really hard to get that right. I’m confident when members of the trans community watch the show you will feel that nuance will be reflected.”

Clark: “What was exciting about the book was it takes this kind of idea that a world filled with mostly women … is not necessarily a paradise. Because women uphold systems of oppression — like patriarchy and white supremacy and capitalism. And that can be explored within that. Because gender is diverse and chromosomes are not equal to gender. So in our world of the show, every living mammal with a Y chromosome dies. Tragically, that includes many women. It includes nonbinary people and includes intersex people. But that’s also true of the survivors. I think every single person who is working on the show — from the writers to the directors to the cast and the crew — are making a show that affirms that trans women are women, trans men are men, nonbinary people are nonbinary, and that is part of the sort of richness of the world we get to play with.”

The original graphic novel approaches gender in a binary fashion. When it comes to chromosomes being the criteria for this apocalyptic event, the conversation becomes much more complex than the more outdated, binary understanding of gender. FX and Clark are both interested in crafting a show that has a more modern perspective of gender. This also allows for them to explore its characters with various gender identities in a way that is more layered.

An apocalyptic event such as this wouldn't be looking at gender in a binary fashion, so why should the show itself? The fact that the creatives behind the show collaborated closely with GLAAD and other organizations to ensure that their approach to trans characters is respectful and accurate is particularly commendable. This form of representation really matters for those within the community and also makes room for more unique, nuanced storytelling. Hopefully more television shows and movies follow suit. It will be exciting to see how Y: The Last Man turns out when it debuts on September 13.
 
...how did you even have troon TIMs in this? The virus kills men. Outright.

Even if you parrot shitty TRANSWOMEN ARE WOMEN (they aren't) they still have chromosomes that are male. Estrogen doesn't change that. Fake boobs don't change that. And on the other side it wouldn't kill troon TIFs so what the fuck? It just enforces bology outright. Intersex people are a tiny minority of people on top of that.

Does this virus not kill troons? Does the virus 'respects their identity'? How? This shit just puts into perspective why this is stupid as fuck and why nobody sane believes this shit trying to devaluing science..
Great, leftie anti-white commies are making this show.

OK but this story is about a virus that kills men.
Do I get to survive if I start identifying as a woman a day before the virus shows up or do I need estrogen and a fake vagina?
You're literally shitting on the entire premise of the story.
This is what happens when ideology is applied to creativity.
You can't tell stories anymore, you can only tell propaganda.
Nobody will watch this, it will get cancelled after season 1.
That's what I initially thought too skimming the article, but no, it's just playing retarded woke games with definitions. It's basically saying OK, everything with a Y chromosome dropped dead but it that doesn't mean it was just men, some heckin' valid 'women' who just happened to have a Y chromosome died too! And he's not the 'last man', there's plenty of these Elliot Page tier troons still around so there's plenty of men left!
 
women with two Y chromosomes

Did these people not learn basic genetics? Or do they just have 26 sets of genes?

Wikipedia dijo:
Most therian mammals have only one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. Males have one Y chromosome and one X chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes. In mammals, the Y chromosome contains a gene, SRY, which triggers embryonic development as a male. The Y chromosomes of humans and other mammals also contain other genes needed for normal sperm production.

There are exceptions, however. Among humans, some men have two Xs and a Y ("XXY", see Klinefelter syndrome), or one X and two Ys (see XYY syndrome), and some women have three Xs or a single X instead of a double X ("X0", see Turner syndrome). There are other exceptions in which SRY is damaged (leading to an XY female), or copied to the X (leading to an XX male).
 
Landgraf: “A lot has changed since the graphic novel. One of the things the show will make clear is that there are women with two X chromosomes and men with an X and Y chromosome — but there are also women with two Y chromosomes and men with two X chromosomes. So what happened was all the mammals with a Y chromosome — with the exception of this one man and this one monkey — died in one event. But there are numerous men in the show that had two X chromosomes, and they’re important characters. It’s also made clear that a number of women died that day who had a Y chromosome and probably didn’t even know it. Even the show’s title has to be explained and contextualized in a much different way than it was. We’ve worked really closely with GLAAD and other organizations and taken a lot of input, and we’ve worked really hard to get that right. I’m confident when members of the trans community watch the show you will feel that nuance will be reflected.”

WTF is this schizophrenia? :cringe:

No, YY is invariably lethal. A fetus simply can't develop with that pairing.

OnT, I really liked this comic book when I read it, though it was over a decade ago. It did sci-fi at its most fun, exploring every facet of a specualtive phenomenon. The main villains were feminist extremists in an apocalyptic cult in the first arch, and then it's the IDF... wonder how they'll handle that. I can't recall a single mention of trans issues though.

I remember looking this up when I read about weird chromosome combos. It's impossible. You can be XYY but there's no living human who can be YY.

Men with XX? Women with YY? The whole thing sounds really stupid. What are they trying to do, make it more inclusive so troons can't cry that the story made them go extinct?

I don't know anything about the original story but it sounds similar to the post-apocalyptic glamazon film Phoenix The Warrior.
The original graphic novel approaches gender in a binary fashion. When it comes to chromosomes being the criteria for this apocalyptic event, the conversation becomes much more complex than the more outdated, binary understanding of gender. FX and Clark are both interested in crafting a show that has a more modern perspective of gender. This also allows for them to explore its characters with various gender identities in a way that is more layered.

What even is science?

You can have trannies in an all female society. And you probably would. But they'd be FtM exclusively and the chromosomes wouldn't be a jambled mess because troon tears.
 
Lol they added some troons onscreeen and behind the scenes as a protection fee, but the problem with negotiating with terrorists is that you pay the one for protection, but he can’t actually protect you from anyone but himself. So you gotta pay the next guy and the next...
 
This has been in development hell for so long that Shia Leboeuf was in running for the main character at one point.
Now that they’re finally making it, it’s no longer kosher to acknowledge biology so they can’t say it killed only men (it did) and they can’t say he’s the last man either (he is).
 
This has been in development hell for so long that Shia Leboeuf was in running for the main character at one point.
Now that they’re finally making it, it’s no longer kosher to acknowledge biology so they can’t say it killed only men (it did) and they can’t say he’s the last man either (he is).
Who's "Shia LeBouf"??
 
I remember reading this comic a decade ago. It was pretty cool, but it is absolutely un-adaptable in Current Year. Why? It shows that women fuck up a lot. When men leave, the world collapses. The all-woman governments are shown to be farcically useless at their jobs, everything falls apart, basic law and order become unenforceable, and the retarded anti-men groups are shown to be raving lunatics who do everything in their power to wreck what's left of society for no good reason.
Ironically the only pocket of society worth half a shit is a women's prison that had a work-release tradeskill village, and once the event happens that kills all men(basically the staff) they just keep maintaining their little village and it's pretty cozy. Nice little houses, subsistence farming, everyone is equally an asshole from whatever got them sent to prison in the first place so they chill out like well-armed texans.

It was a decent comic but it's going to get butchered as a mini-series. Women get lonely and dyke out occasionally, and then they start cloning somewhere when the premise gets old. It overstays its welcome and doesn't end well.
 
The best way to deal with it is don't. if you try, likely to make things worse, will piss off the trannines and confuse/lose the wider audience at the same time. The truth is 99% of the people who would watch this show don't give a shit about the topic in the first place, why risk losing them with likely to be hamfisted troon shit.
 
I didn’t realize there were YY humans. XYY males who are tall retards with behavioral disorders and terrible skin, very occasionally. But YY?

No, YY is invariably lethal. A fetus simply can't develop with that pairing.

Exactly what I thought. This person is clearly an expert.

For anyone wondering, the X chromosome has a bunch of miscellaneous genes on it, like the gene for the red/green color receptor in the eye. The y chromosome is the "make it male" gene, and pretty much just has the instructions to take a female fetus and make it male. A yy fetus would never survive because it'd be missing a bunch of necessary genes.

To be fair, I think it'd be interesting to include at least one trans man, but it would inherently be rather transphobic. He hears rumors that there are other men, he's excited and deliberately searches them out to find out what makes them special, maybe they know more about his situation... but they're inherently different. They were female.
 
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