Disaster How tech's richest plan to save themselves after the apocalypse - Life boat for me, not for thee - or look what counts as success

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https://www.theguardian.com/technol...try-wealth-futurism-transhumanism-singularity

‘The Event was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, virus, or hack that takes everything down.’

Last year, I got invited to a super-deluxe private resort to deliver a keynote speech to what I assumed would be a hundred or so investment bankers. It was by far the largest fee I had ever been offered for a talk – about half my annual professor’s salary – all to deliver some insight on the subject of “the future of technology”.

I’ve never liked talking about the future. The Q&A sessions always end up more like parlor games, where I’m asked to opine on the latest technology buzzwords as if they were ticker symbols for potential investments: blockchain, 3D printing, Crispr. The audiences are rarely interested in learning about these technologies or their potential impacts beyond the binary choice of whether or not to invest in them. But money talks, so I took the gig.

After I arrived, I was ushered into what I thought was the green room. But instead of being wired with a microphone or taken to a stage, I just sat there at a plain round table as my audience was brought to me: five super-wealthy guys – yes, all men – from the upper echelon of the hedge fund world. After a bit of small talk, I realized they had no interest in the information I had prepared about the future of technology. They had come with questions of their own.

They started out innocuously enough. Ethereum or bitcoin? Is quantum computing a real thing? Slowly but surely, however, they edged into their real topics of concern.

Which region will be less affected by the coming climate crisis: New Zealand or Alaska? Is Google really building Ray Kurzweil a home for his brain, and will his consciousness live through the transition, or will it die and be reborn as a whole new one? Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the Event?”

The Event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or Mr Robot hack that takes everything down.

It’s a reduction of human evolution to a video game won by finding the escape hatch and bringing BFFs along for the ride

This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed in time.

That’s when it hit me: at least as far as these gentlemen were concerned, this was a talk about the future of technology. Taking their cue from Elon Musk colonizing Mars, Peter Thiel reversing the ageing process, or Sam Altman and Ray Kurzweil uploading their minds into supercomputers, they were preparing for a digital future that had a whole lot less to do with making the world a better place than it did with transcending the human condition altogether and insulating themselves from a very real and present danger of climate change, rising sea levels, mass migrations, global pandemics, nativist panic, and resource depletion. For them, the future of technology is really about just one thing: escape.

There’s nothing wrong with madly optimistic appraisals of how technology might benefit human society. But the current drive for a post-human utopia is something else. It’s less a vision for the wholesale migration of humanity to a new a state of being than a quest to transcend all that is human: the body, interdependence, compassion, vulnerability, and complexity. As technology philosophers have been pointing out for years, now, the transhumanist vision too easily reduces all of reality to data, concluding that “humans are nothing but information-processing objects”.

It’s a reduction of human evolution to a video game that someone wins by finding the escape hatch and then letting a few of his BFFs come along for the ride. Will it be Musk, Bezos, Thiel … Zuckerberg? These billionaires are the presumptive winners of the digital economy – the same survival-of-the-fittest business landscape that’s fueling most of this speculation to begin with.

Of course, it wasn’t always this way. There was a brief moment, in the early 1990s, when the digital future felt open-ended and up for our invention. Technology was becoming a playground for the counterculture, who saw in it the opportunity to create a more inclusive, distributed, and pro-human future. But established business interests only saw new potentials for the same old extraction, and too many technologists were seduced by unicorn IPOs. Digital futures became understood more like stock futures or cotton futures – something to predict and make bets on. So nearly every speech, article, study, documentary, or white paper was seen as relevant only insofar as it pointed to a ticker symbol. The future became less a thing we create through our present-day choices or hopes for humankind than a predestined scenario we bet on with our venture capital but arrive at passively.

This freed everyone from the moral implications of their activities. Technology development became less a story of collective flourishing than personal survival. Worse, as I learned, to call attention to any of this was to unintentionally cast oneself as an enemy of the market or an anti-technology curmudgeon.

So instead of considering the practical ethics of impoverishing and exploiting the many in the name of the few, most academics, journalists, and science fiction writers instead considered much more abstract and fanciful conundrums: is it fair for a stock trader to use smart drugs? Should children get implants for foreign languages? Do we want autonomous vehicles to prioritize the lives of pedestrians over those of its passengers? Should the first Mars colonies be run as democracies? Does changing my DNA undermine my identity? Should robots have rights?

Asking these sorts of questions, while philosophically entertaining, is a poor substitute for wrestling with the real moral quandaries associated with unbridled technological development in the name of corporate capitalism. Digital platforms have turned an already exploitative and extractive marketplace (think Walmart) into an even more dehumanizing successor (think Amazon). Most of us became aware of these downsides in the form of automated jobs, the gig economy, and the demise of local retail.

But the more devastating impacts of pedal-to-the-metal digital capitalism fall on the environment and global poor. The manufacture of some of our computers and smartphones still uses networks of slave labor. These practices are so deeply entrenched that a company called Fairphone, founded from the ground up to make and market ethical phones, learned it was impossible. (The company’s founder now sadly refers to their products as “fairer” phones.)

Meanwhile, the mining of rare earth metals and disposal of our highly digital technologies destroys human habitats, replacing them with toxic waste dumps, which are then picked over by peasant children and their families, who sell usable materials back to the manufacturers.

This “out of sight, out of mind” externalization of poverty and poison doesn’t go away just because we’ve covered our eyes with VR goggles and immersed ourselves in an alternate reality. If anything, the longer we ignore the social, economic, and environmental repercussions, the more of a problem they become. This, in turn, motivates even more withdrawal, more isolationism and apocalyptic fantasy – and more desperately concocted technologies and business plans. The cycle feeds itself.

The more committed we are to this view of the world, the more we come to see human beings as the problem and technology as the solution. The very essence of what it means to be human is treated less as a feature than a bug. No matter their embedded biases, technologies are declared neutral. Any bad behaviors they induce in us are just a reflection of our own corrupted core. It’s as if some innate human savagery is to blame for our troubles. Just as the inefficiency of a local taxi market can be “solved” with an app that bankrupts human drivers, the vexing inconsistencies of the human psyche can be corrected with a digital or genetic upgrade.

Ultimately, according to the technosolutionist orthodoxy, the human future climaxes by uploading our consciousness to a computer or, perhaps better, accepting that technology itself is our evolutionary successor. Like members of a gnostic cult, we long to enter the next transcendent phase of our development, shedding our bodies and leaving them behind, along with our sins and troubles.

Our movies and television shows play out these fantasies for us. Zombie shows depict a post-apocalypse where people are no better than the undead – and seem to know it. Worse, these shows invite viewers to imagine the future as a zero-sum battle between the remaining humans, where one group’s survival is dependent on another one’s demise. Even Westworld – based on a science fiction novel in which robots run amok – ended its second season with the ultimate reveal: human beings are simpler and more predictable than the artificial intelligences we create. The robots learn that each of us can be reduced to just a few lines of code, and that we’re incapable of making any willful choices. Heck, even the robots in that show want to escape the confines of their bodies and spend their rest of their lives in a computer simulation.

The mental gymnastics required for such a profound role reversal between humans and machines all depend on the underlying assumption that humans suck. Let’s either change them or get away from them, forever.

Thus, we get tech billionaires launching electric cars into space – as if this symbolizes something more than one billionaire’s capacity for corporate promotion. And if a few people do reach escape velocity and somehow survive in a bubble on Mars – despite our inability to maintain such a bubble even here on Earth in either of two multibillion-dollar biosphere trials – the result will be less a continuation of the human diaspora than a lifeboat for the elite.
 
With all the government invasion of privacy and tampering in regards to data, do you really want you're entire conciousness uploaded to a server?

If you've been on the internet in the past 15-20 years, you don't have privacy and will never recover it unless you fake your death and live in the middle of nowhere in Africa the rest of your life. So I'll take immortality (or at the very least, a 100% clone of my consciousness who is immortal) over my non-existant privacy any day of the week.

Not if the billionaires use it as an excuse to destroy the world. Do you really want them pulling a Chinese billionaire/boomer scam on us?

But then who will buy shit off of Amazon if Bezos and his banker bros have killed everyone?
 
If you've been on the internet in the past 15-20 years, you don't have privacy and will never recover it unless you fake your death and live in the middle of nowhere in Africa the rest of your life. So I'll take immortality (or at the very least, a 100% clone of my consciousness who is immortal) over my non-existant privacy any day of the week.

Yeah your privacy is already fucked, but you'd be handing over your entire being to the same people who violated your privacy. They can do all sorts of total recall shit to your digitized self or they'll enslave you and if you fuck up you get deleted.

I'd rather die in the apocalypse than live through the hyper feral dystopian hellscape it will inevitably spawn.
 
These guys are this rich and well connected and they can't even look up the Continuity of Government studies, experiments, and theory crafting?

They deserve to have their guards sodomize them until they give up the keycodes to the shock collars and food cabinets.

(Easiest way to ensure their guard's loyalty? Let them bring their families.)
 
And then put the shock collars on the families! You're a genius. I'll call Elon right now with your solution.
OR, they could put the shock collars on themselves and give the controls to True & Honest Wymen who they can populate their disaster shelter with to repopulate the earth!
 
Yeah your privacy is already fucked, but you'd be handing over your entire being to the same people who violated your privacy. They can do all sorts of total recall shit to your digitized self or they'll enslave you and if you fuck up you get deleted.

I'd rather die in the apocalypse than live through the hyper feral dystopian hellscape it will inevitably spawn.

They could, but someone, somewhere (including even another copy of your uploaded mind) would sue them for it, and their mind uploading business would suffer. What's a billion years (in subjective time) of torture if eventually someone else takes over the server my brain is on and stops it, and from there after I'm effectively immortal?
 
They could, but someone, somewhere (including even another copy of your uploaded mind) would sue them for it, and their mind uploading business would suffer. What's a billion years (in subjective time) of torture if eventually someone else takes over the server my brain is on and stops it, and from there after I'm effectively immortal?
How immortality via upload is going to work for all us plebes....

 
"How can I keep my wealth and prestige when something renders my wealth and prestige meaningless?"

"Only I know the combination to the food locker" - We apparently will not have bolt cutters in the future.... if you think a padlock is going to keep the starving masses on the other side of a door, you are not a very smart person. Hell, if you think anything will keep people out of your food locker when they're starving, what world are you living in? Unless you have a plan to buy up every bulldozer and every ounce of explosive in the world, there's no way you are keeping anyone out of your pantry if they are determined to get in.

LOL at thinking you have any control over your security force if you have "compliance collars" on them, the first time you hit the red button will be the last, because if you're smart, it's a "fatal explosion "compliance collar and kills them all, leaving you unharmed but unguarded.

Or, if you were REALLY dumb, it's just a "mild shock" compliance collar, which will result in every single one of them making taking you out the top priority....
 
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I love how these pricks think they'll be spared when the apocalypse comes :story:
Being half of the shit they say, they are gonna cause it and how important they are as well as being victims of horrors like mean tweets. They kinda are aware they are going to cause the end of the world and be raped horribly and forced to watch everything and one they love destroyed for it.

So they write a power fantasy where they have us who have the ability to lift a rifle, plow a field etc, and put us in chains.

I remember there was a time we had something like that, putting a people you seem to feel less than you in chains, making them work and paying them in bare needs?.

but no, really these are good people deep down.
 
All the money in the planet can’t save you from Apocalypse:

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Most of us became aware of these downsides in the form of automated jobs, the gig economy, and the demise of local retail.

These are things that had to happen for one reason or another, local retails fail because they cost too much to run or overspecialize in their products. Think of a tanning salon, it goes well for a while, then it becomes common conscience that the act of tanning is damaging to your skin and healing damaged skin can lead to skin cancer. Now the tanning salon is unpopular for health reasons. Now comes along some grandma who takes her grandkid to the tanning salon as often as possible, it gets news coverage, and now the tanning salon is even less popular for ethical reasons.

Places like Kohls, Blockbuster and Toys R Us are falling through because that's exactly what they've been doing for decades.

Ultimately, according to the technosolutionist orthodoxy, the human future climaxes by uploading our consciousness to a computer or, perhaps better, accepting that technology itself is our evolutionary successor.

Both of these are supremo gay.
 
I'm going to go on a different tack here and suggest that the events described in this article are at best wildly exaggerated, and at worst wholly fabricated. As people have pointed out, you're not going to see tech pioneers being dumb enough to try to get shock collars onto their post apocalyptic security force.
 
Places like Kohls, Blockbuster and Toys R Us are falling through because that's exactly what they've been doing for decades.

Actually, only Blockbuster could be said to have died from changing technology, TRU and several retail fashion outlets (like BonTon) that went bust recently can trace their woes to recklessly taking loans in the mid 00's just prior to the great recession (mostly to buy out/buy off rivals and expand) that they were unable to pay the principle, let alone the interest, on. On paper, they were still meagerly profitable within their own overheads even at the end, but, what minor profit they made was all gobbled up and then some by massive loan debt (Like, 5 mil profit after base expenses, immediately weighed against 65 million in interest on a 2 billion dollar loan...... owie)
 
Actually, only Blockbuster could be said to have died from changing technology, TRU and several retail fashion outlets (like BonTon) that went bust recently can trace their woes to recklessly taking loans in the mid 00's just prior to the great recession (mostly to buy out/buy off rivals and expand) that they were unable to pay the principle, let alone the interest, on. On paper, they were still meagerly profitable within their own overheads even at the end, but, what minor profit they made was all gobbled up and then some by massive loan debt (Like, 5 mil profit after base expenses, immediately weighed against 65 million in interest on a 2 billion dollar loan...... owie)

Oh yeah, I forgot about the massive loan debts, lol.
 
IMO the problem with all "prepare for doomsday" people is that all the scenarios have such negligible odds of happening, you can't fully prepare for all of them, or any, honestly. The best you could probably hope for is a more expensive version of When the Wind Blows. Or dying in the initial kick-off event, unable to get to your bunker.

:powerlevel: One of my cousins knows a college-educated guy who is 100% serious about preparing for the zombie apocalypse. He thinks it's coming any day. It will be just like the movies--but not the "Return of" movies where zombies are invincible. That's too unrealistic, of course.
 
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