How many pills...

[TheBallPit]

...of Hydrocodone 10-325 T would it take to commit suicide for an average man weighing 200 lbs? I mean real, no-amount-of-medical-intervention-will-save-you suicide and certainly not a "call for help" amount. Asking as research for a book I'm writing dealing with the broader subject of "quiet" suicide methods versus those that are more violent (gunshot, falling from a great height, getting run over, etc.).

Real numbers, please. A "gorillion" or "gazillion" doesn't help. Justification for your number would also be appreciated.

If the number checks out, I will send the FIRST person an Amazon e-gift card or something else of the person's choosing. There won't be any 2nd-place prize.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.: No, this isn't an expose on trans suicides.

 

[urr13 account]

75mg

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

...does it take to get to the center of our mental and emotional issues?

 

[harbringer883]

100mg would be beyond fatal.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

Have you tried using math?

 

[Johnny Switchblade]

It would be really difficult for a healthy grown man to fatally overdose on vicodin alone. It'd have to be part of a polydrug cocktail, or at least taken with vodka. Its way more stimulating and less sedating than morphine or heroin. You'd send yourself into liver failure from acetaminophen before you die from acute overdose, and if you're going to choose to die from liver failure just drink paraquat.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Realistically if that's all you take there's a fairly good chance you'd wake up in a puddle of puke. Overdosing orally is honestly not a terribly effective suicide method, which is probably a good thing since that's usually the version people who are least sure they want to off themselves choose.

It's not going to be an easy way out. Even actual IV opiate overdoses often aren't very clean.

Asking as research for a book I'm writing dealing with the broader subject of "quiet" suicide methods versus those that are more violent (gunshot, falling from a great height, getting run over, etc.).

I struggle to imagine a scenario in which someone would be writing an academic book about suicide methods, and decide asking a bunch of anonymous internet users on a controversial politics and e-gossip forum would be the best source of information.

 

[Caesare]

...of Hydrocodone 10-325 T would it take to commit suicide for an average man weighing 200 lbs?

Unfortunately, I don't have an exact figure but I can say with 100% certainty that you don't have enough.

 

[⚞⛇⚟]

200 lbs

Lol fat

 

[xiamen]

as many as you need apple seeds to make cyanide

 

[Aunt Carol]

...of Hydrocodone 10-325 T would it take to commit suicide for an average man weighing 200 lbs? I mean real, no-amount-of-medical-intervention-will-save-you suicide and certainly not a "call for help" amount.

Pills are necessarily inexact-someone could vomit once passed out and lose most of it-and opiate tolerance varies. What kills someone isn't toxicity but respiratory depression from opiates.

IMO hydrocodone/APAP OD sounds like a call for help; it's commonly-prescribed and available, and with opiates there's all that time for someone to find the victim and the EMTs to swoop in with Narcan. The acetaminophen muddies your example too: that's fatal on a different timeline.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Just research the LD50 for the bodyweight then take twice as much as that you faggot.

 

[Übertroon]

Fentanyl suicide would be way easier

 

[DumbDude43]

way too many, it's not practical. you'll suffer through the excruciating pain and suffering of liver failure from all the paracetamol in those pills long before the hydro amount in your system gets anywhere near the level that could kill you.

 

[Polyarmory]

Probably somewhere between a gorillion and a gazillion. My "Canadian Prescription" would be 400 kilograms administered by crane.

 

[Apochrypha]

Assuming it's Norco 10mg/325 mg tablet. It's Hydrocodone/Acetominophen:

- average dosage is 1-2 tabs every 4-6h
- Max is at least 60 mg/4000 mg, so anything over this would be an OD.

For the sake of funny alone I write this, I sincerely hope you aren't going to be a faggot and actually dirk it.

 

[Uncle Sid]

On the "loud" side, make sure you include the classic:

-top of a high building with:
-20 foot piano wire noose
-50 foot rope tied around one leg
-one hand superglued to your forehead so that when you jump, you get decapitated at 20 feet and end up hanging upside down at 50 feet, spraying blood all over the street and palming your own head like a basketball

ETA: Adjust lengths based on how fat you are.

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

I mean real, no-amount-of-medical-intervention-will-save-you suicide and certainly not a "call for help" amount.

An opioid overdose can be reversed with naloxone, and even if you didn't have naloxone you could just intubate and wait for it to metabolize. The acetaminophen overdose part can be reversed with NAC. So the answer is there is none.

 

[TheBallPit]

I'm not fat. 200lbs was just an average body weight I was assigning to the typical American adult male.

If Hydrocodone is a bad choice, what about Zolpidem (aka Ambien) @ 10mg per tablet? There's no paracetamol in it. And it's not an opiate, so it can't be reversed via Narcan.

Fentanyl is difficult to get ahold of unless you're streetwise or rob your local Walgreens.

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

If Hydrocodone is a bad choice, what about Zolpidem (aka Ambien) @ 10mg per tablet? There's no paracetamol in it. And it's not an opiate, so it can't be reversed via Narcan.

Anything causing respiratory depression is easy to deal with via intubating and just letting them metabolize it. So no.

Sodium channel blockers are the most difficult ODs to treat, particularly tricyclic antidepressants because they're affecting multiple pathways. In severe cases you might have to escalate to ECMO.

You can buy stuff off of Amazon, mix 'em together and that'll kill you instantly (through a mechanism that's not known that well) but it wouldn't really be ethical to write about that, would it?