How bad were the 90s for gays?

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Title pretty much. I see people on mainstream media nowadays talk about how it was practically the holocaust for gays and blah blah blah. The way they talk about, it you'd think every westerner wanted gays to die or something. They often bring up that Mathew Shephard kid as proof (although I'v heard some others say that was over a drug deal than homophobia). So is it all true, or is it exaggerated? I mean, loads of T.V shows back then pushed for gay acceptance, so it can't have been controversial enough to be cancelled could it?
 
They were absolutely terrible- they needed to endure obviously ludicrous slander like accusations of endemic pedophilic grooming, that accepting them would lead to things like schools propandizing the gay lifestyle, or that it would lead to more degenerate activism like trying to normalize pedophilia and zoophilia.

How absurd is all that?
 
One look at a 90s Top of the Pops compilation video will tell you that it was gay heaven. Minus the fag flu, of course.
This cunt didn't even present TOTP in the 90s. A golden age.
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The worst thing going for them in the 90s were conservatives arguing they shouldn't be allowed to get married largely for reasons that have all come to pass since then. It was unpopular to come out during that time and I'm sure being outed ruined a few people's careers, but the alleged gay-bashing and fag-drags that progressives scream about as the justification for their current hatred never happened. A lot of stupid, backwater, Bible-thumping hicks said some hurtful things and now they all watch Rupaul's Drag Race.

The 80s were way worse for homos because a certain "expert" by the name Anthony Fauci was telling everyone you can get AIDs through casual contact. HIV was ripping through the gay community and here's this respected doctor telling everyone you could potentially catch this debilitating disease by something as benign as shaking hands. You could easily argue most of the vitriol of the 90s toward gays were just spillover from perpetual rent-seeking assholes in the government doing what they always do: gin up a panic, give people a scapegoat, then sell the cure. Truckloads of money and government contracts got thrown into making an AIDs vaccine and nothing ever came of it besides Fauci failing upward to the lofty position in which he currently resides.
 
there was a brief reignition of national evangelical sentiment in a re-run of the Moral Majority movement, but much weaker than before, so you could actually see people say on TV that homosexuality is evil, but it definitely wasn't the prevailing sentiment. if anything the evangelicals were seen as an annoying group of dogmatic retards that believed a lot of stupid shit. a celebrity being rumored to be gay was a minor scandal. the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in the US military came into effect at the beginning of 1994, meaning homosexuality was now officially tolerated in the armed forces as long as you didn't make an issue of yourself. Elton John publicly acknowledged being gay in 1992 (he had previously claimed to be bisexual) to barely any fanfare. Ellen Degeneres came out in 1997 and was widely accepted and applauded for it. the list of 90s TV shows that featured gay characters in limited but notable roles is too long for this post, but Will & Grace, a sitcom featuring a gay main character, debuted in 1998 and was lauded for it, and enjoyed decent popularity. in short, the 90s were a time of revolutionary advancements in gay acceptance.

if you're looking for times where gay people were genuinely oppressed, you'll have to look back to the 70s and 80s. Stonewall happened in '69, which is largely seen as the first major collision between the gay community and mainstream culture, sparking the gay pride movement. the AIDS epidemic was the next major flashpoint - the Reagan administration famously referred to it as the gay plague in its early days (which was a term also used by researchers who discovered the disease, as the first major group of people the disease was discovered in were gay men from California), leading to the popular (at least partially correct) impression that gay men were literally breeding new sexual diseases. for a time, contraction of AIDS was linked directly with homosexuality, which meant that when HIV infected the medical blood supply, people who got surprise AIDS from blood transfusions had to suppress the information to avoid the controversy of being assumed to be gay (Isaac Asimov is one example of this). back then you could actually sincerely say that large parts of power and society in this country either ignored gays or openly disparaged or persecuted them.
 
In France in the 90’s, as it is today, it was the law to be gay. Everyone spoke a secret gay language called “French”. Everyone drove a gay car by a fag company called “Renault”. The only food available was a phallic bread called a “baguette”. Instead of the Euro the French used “assjobs” as a form of currency.

However in recent years Britain has taken the title of “Faggiest fag country to fag about”.
 
Being gay was widely accepted, or at least tolerated by most people in the 1990's, but a lot of gay people got their heads stomped in by fagbashing gangs after dark and the police weren't particularly effective in dealing with it.
 
It was terrible for them, we never celebrated ass sex at work or allowed them to dress in their burlesque outfits to come read to kids at the library.

(Isaac Asimov is one example of this). back then you could actually sincerely say that large parts of power and society in this country either ignored gays or openly disparaged or persecuted them.

Damn, I didn't know the fags killed Isaac Asimov with their poz blood.
 
Things that were legitimate and actually did happen more than they should have: Gay teens being tossed out onto the streets after coming out or being discovered, gay teens being beat up in highschool

Things that happened occasionally but are hyped up and over exaggerated: Gay bashing of adults, being fired from your job for being a homo

Things that are just gays being buttmad that they weren't worshipped: Being called names, evangelicals telling them they're going to hell, people generally having an attitude of "yeah that's what the deserve what did they expect" in regard to AIDs, gays being viewed with suspicion around children, most everything else they bitch about
 
In the early 90s, were getting pissed off at the spread of AIDS. Nobody cared if it just hit gays but blood transfusions were causing problems. Everyone got freaked out over getting AIDS, like drinking from the same water fountain. Perception of gays were an all time low. The media started trying to rehabilitate gays, with the first big attempt being a shitty movie called Philadelphia. It didn’t help things.

Not sure who came up with this brilliant idea but in the mid 90s, someone decided that gays would be marketed as pets for white women. Gays went from being deviants from the underworld to guys who were better dressers and more attractive than straight men who had nothing better to do than gossip with other white girls and accompany them when going shopping. By the end of the 90s, they were considered better than straights in every way and all they supposedly wanted to do is get married and adopt a black baby. It was a 180 in almost every way. It was pushed from top down. Anyone who objected was secretly gay themselves. The slippery slope was a myth.
 
From what I recall of Burgerland in the '90s, it seems homosexuality was usually seen as odd and a subject of comedy, but not outright hostility like in the Muslim realm.

Also homosexuality was definitely not considered family friendly back then.
 
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Stonewall happened in '69, which is largely seen as the first major collision between the gay community and mainstream culture, sparking the gay pride movement.
Stonewall was a bust of a Mafia-run extortion ring where the gays patrons freaked out and attacked the cops. The cops weren't there to beat up the gays, but rather to remind the Mafia who was in charge after the Mafia refused to pay their bribes.

Ironically, the police were there to arrest people who were blackmailing gays.
 
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