Sneed's Feed n Seed
kiwifarms.net
- Registrado
- 7 de Jul, 2024
I've been putting a lot of thought and time into actual accountability and how to get people to change or at least control their damage to others and it's a shit. The system simply doesn't do a lot right.
Immediate, certain, proportional, agreeable consequences work. This is known. Instead, we are retarded:
The legal system: extremely delayed. Probation and monitoring actually does work because there's high certainty. However, extended imprisonment doesn't really help. Well studied.
What's left of society: everyone's so busy weaponizing shame or trying to avoid accountability it's just worthless now. Everyone knows it's a ploy instead of actually good faith. What the fucking Farms does. Also well studied.
The people who get probation & monitoring are people who do things that powerful people also do, like drinking and driving, certain drugs, etc, and of course get treated better than poor people.
The people who are just locked up and only let out after they're made worse tend to be poor.
Deterrence only goes so far, and severity only goes so far. Certainty is what works. But that means surveillance. Which means we turn into the kind of country that the USA really should never even flirt with.
Nobody would ever agree to incarceration as long as we tend to do it. Because the units happen to be years, we tend to stack on years and years, even when we go past any useful deterrence or punishment that isn't so damaging it's counter productive, and even past mere endurance, instead remaking them into worse people upon release. Punishments should fit the crime: you're a speedster, a drunk? Scrape up accidents and road kill. Work the fucking speed traps yourself. Be a doughnut fetcher for that matter. Thief? Work in the store you fucking stole from. It's obvious.
But no. We half-ruin people and wonder why they act accordingly, or slap people on the wrist who are heinous. We're expanding surveillance but we're going to fuck that shit up too. The only thing we do right is lock up very dangerous people for a long time, but we don't really rehabilitate. We don't monitor post release unless they're sex criminals, as though theft or violence is somehow okay?
Sigh.
Immediate, certain, proportional, agreeable consequences work. This is known. Instead, we are retarded:
The legal system: extremely delayed. Probation and monitoring actually does work because there's high certainty. However, extended imprisonment doesn't really help. Well studied.
What's left of society: everyone's so busy weaponizing shame or trying to avoid accountability it's just worthless now. Everyone knows it's a ploy instead of actually good faith. What the fucking Farms does. Also well studied.
The people who get probation & monitoring are people who do things that powerful people also do, like drinking and driving, certain drugs, etc, and of course get treated better than poor people.
The people who are just locked up and only let out after they're made worse tend to be poor.
Deterrence only goes so far, and severity only goes so far. Certainty is what works. But that means surveillance. Which means we turn into the kind of country that the USA really should never even flirt with.
Nobody would ever agree to incarceration as long as we tend to do it. Because the units happen to be years, we tend to stack on years and years, even when we go past any useful deterrence or punishment that isn't so damaging it's counter productive, and even past mere endurance, instead remaking them into worse people upon release. Punishments should fit the crime: you're a speedster, a drunk? Scrape up accidents and road kill. Work the fucking speed traps yourself. Be a doughnut fetcher for that matter. Thief? Work in the store you fucking stole from. It's obvious.
But no. We half-ruin people and wonder why they act accordingly, or slap people on the wrist who are heinous. We're expanding surveillance but we're going to fuck that shit up too. The only thing we do right is lock up very dangerous people for a long time, but we don't really rehabilitate. We don't monitor post release unless they're sex criminals, as though theft or violence is somehow okay?
Sigh.