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Homestuck stopped being good after they finished the Bec Noir arc and switched to the Alpha kids
In seriousness, I agree with this. Homestuck's peak influence and popularity was when The Scratch happened and the game was announced, and it felt like the sky was the limit. If only fans knew how good they had it back then.
 
Homestuck stopped being good after they finished the Bec Noir arc and switched to the Alpha kids

its been dead man :(
the trolls introduction was a real lull in the comic because that was the point where homestuck started to get way too many characters to focus on. most of them were killed off, but there were still too many characters, and then the scratch happened and now there's four more assholes to follow for the rest of the comic, and hussie does not know what to do with jake and dirk so dirk is off in space for half of post-scratch and jake gets progressively more unimportant while his characterization adapts to how unimportant he is. and he still gets to have a better final battle than karkat.
 
The biggest nail in the coffin for me, I could tolerate a lot of BS with the later stages of Homestuck
the Vriska arc had wrapped up nicely with the **potential** she could have beaten Bec Noir with all the luck she had stolen but was snuffed before it couldve killed the other trolls was a genius way to end the character and end the Troll arc. Cool character, active in the plot, gave it her all and was killed by a loophole engineered by the Seer of Mind. Badass

But then they brought her back to relevency for some reason and made her both pirate lesbian failure. Then made ANOTHER Vriska thats successful and just dunks on her other self.

I couldve forgiven a lot if they had made Eridan the dead troll that fought Lord English in the end. I had hoped so hard they would bring him back after his death since it felt like they were building him up to a knockdown and to return having learned his lesson as the Prince of Hope and became a savior.

It befuddles me that they went with such a stupid route instead and makes me think someone was trying to project themselves into their favorite character without looking at the big picture.
 
I think blitzing through the first act is the correct way to go about it
I severely disagree because there was not even a moment left to breathe, not a moment of the ambience that the comic was known for. You say shit can't be translated to an animated medium when it's a primarily visual comic with each panel just being a slight bit of movement or a flash animation showing lots of movement? Very strange.

EDIT: I could give a really good example of my gripes, a lot of stuff is animated fine as I said, with characters doing things they did int he comic but the conversation is changed to vivziepopism shit where everyone's super pissed off constantly which gets rid of the reason for john putting the arms on the doll. In the comic he did it because he found it fucking hilarious and they didn't even make him briefly chuckle to himself at what he did int he animation, just keep bitching and going "fuck fuck fuck i'm so fucking smart and cool" while rose groans and dave is all like "HEY MY FUCKING WHOLESOME FUCKING HECKERINO BRO!"

The one character remotely in character was jade which is not a good vibe when that's the one character you got going on.


the trolls introduction was a real lull in the comic because that was the point where homestuck started to get way too many characters to focus on. most of them were killed off, but there were still too many characters, and then the scratch happened and now there's four more assholes to follow for the rest of the comic, and hussie does not know what to do with jake and dirk so dirk is off in space for half of post-scratch and jake gets progressively more unimportant while his characterization adapts to how unimportant he is. and he still gets to have a better final battle than karkat.
I don't get this narrative, having an increasing amount of characters to bounce off each other in a comedy adventure thing isn't really something exclusive to homestuck and I think it does it pretty well until act 6! It's entirely because act 6 decides to crawl up it's own asshole that fun cannot be had.

>forum dedicated to terminally online autism
>dedicated Homestuck thread only has 3 pages

Am I having an aneurysm or something here?

Most activity was in another thread and the whatpumpkin clique discussion thread in community watch.
 
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I don't get this narrative, having an increasing amount of characters to bounce off each other in a comedy adventure thing isn't really something exclusive to homestuck and I think it does it pretty well until act 6!
I'm just going off of my own experience, but I don't think it helps that I never really cared about the trolls' worldbuilding or their stupid culture or the multiple exploration game segments. the only memorable part of it for me was karkat being shocked speechless at meeting his ancestor, because said ancestor was a huge SJW type who speaks in walls of text. that's worth it all, honestly
 
the only memorable part of it for me was karkat being shocked speechless at meeting his ancestor, because said ancestor was a huge SJW type who speaks in walls of text. that's worth it all, honestly
That was act 6. Act 5 was a bunch of goofy time travel and character interaction antics and the trolls technically were in earlier than act 5 just not physically depicted save for karkat.
 
I severely disagree because there was not even a moment left to breathe, not a moment of the ambience that the comic was known for. You say shit can't be translated to an animated medium when it's a primarily visual comic with each panel just being a slight bit of movement or a flash animation showing lots of movement? Very strange.

Its a different medium. A think you COULD do it but it would be near unwatchable (to most people some would enjoy that more. To use an extreme example that isn't anywhere close to the scale we are talking about. Lord of rings made one to one to the book likely wouldn't have been as good as the trilogy we got.

The medium is closer and I think they did alright.. I get being turned off on it though.
 
Were you filtered by the stickmen cast on your first read? Be honest.

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Were you filtered by the stickmen cast on your first read? Be honest.
The Midnight Crew are the single greatest thing to come from Homestuck. And they didn’t even come from Homestuck, which explains a lot, thinking on it.

They really should have done more true Dirk interactions. It felt like almost all of Dirk convos felt more like X character and Auto Responder
Dirk IMO was the only truly interesting Alpha kid, and that because of his great design (pointy anime shades), having the most intriguing personality of his quartet, and Bro easily being the best of the guardians in the Beta world. I would have liked just having Dirk around, but sadly Hussie would be forced by the game’s rules to have added in the other guardians.

Now the Beforus trolls, those guys were dead weight all the way. The beta kids? Duh, they’re the backbone. The dozen Alternia trolls? Hussie kills the ultimately superfluous ones off in dramatic ways to give them oomph but even then you can manage all of them alive, IMO. Alpha kids? Pushed it in who to keep track of. Beforus trolls? Jesus fucking Christ.
 
Were you filtered by the stickmen cast on your first read? Be honest.

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Highlight of the entire comic was that, the Midnight Crew and Exiles.

I wish we had a arc of the MC during their time as Exiles in the troll session before the Felt Manor

The Midnight Crew are the single greatest thing to come from Homestuck. And they didn’t even come from Homestuck, which explains a lot, thinking on it.


Dirk IMO was the only truly interesting Alpha kid, and that because of his great design (pointy anime shades), having the most intriguing personality of his quartet, and Bro easily being the best of the guardians in the Beta world. I would have liked just having Dirk around, but sadly Hussie would be forced by the game’s rules to have added in the other guardians.

Now the Beforus trolls, those guys were dead weight all the way. The beta kids? Duh, they’re the backbone. The dozen Alternia trolls? Hussie kills the ultimately superfluous ones off in dramatic ways to give them oomph but even then you can manage all of them alive, IMO. Alpha kids? Pushed it in who to keep track of. Beforus trolls? Jesus fucking Christ.
It was WAY too much. He shouldve treated the Alpha Trolls the same way as the Dancestors and kept them vague and somewhat mystical. Build up speculation. I dont think he'd ever be able to top what the fans could speculate

And dirk never got enough proper interactions. It was always AR. Im disapointed we got so little between Jake and Dirk or at the very end Dirk and Dave
 
Its a different medium. A think you COULD do it but it would be near unwatchable (to most people some would enjoy that more. To use an extreme example that isn't anywhere close to the scale we are talking about. Lord of rings made one to one to the book likely wouldn't have been as good as the trilogy we got.

The medium is closer and I think they did alright.. I get being turned off on it though.
The fact they animated a lot of bits right in the pilot but lacked the right characterization tells me you are fucking wrong and they could have 100% translated it to animated format. Like instead of having john bitch constantly and be all pissy whilde doing things that dont' seem to make sense just have him chatting casually like he does in the comic while he's holding in laughter over shit like sticking the arms in the cake. You could easily have something funny happen where john puts the phone down and dave starts trailing off about the jupiter thing but no, we get 30 minutes of meandering about and memberberries for shit that happens far later in the comic.


Were you filtered by the stickmen cast on your first read? Be honest.

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Why the fuck would anyone be "filtered" by shit that's like MSPA standar-oh yeah i forgot most of the current year people that read homestuck read it for the fucking reason of it being homestuck. very gay.

It was WAY too much. He shouldve treated the Alpha Trolls the same way as the Dancestors and kept them vague and somewhat mystical. Build up speculation. I dont think he'd ever be able to top what the fans could speculate
Vague and mystical would be the ancestors, not the "dancestors" which was the alt timelinetrolls that played the game before the ones we see, are introduced during act 6, and are the complete fucking opposite of vague and mystical tot he point one of their gimmicks is being an insufferable tumblrite who textwalls about privilege and isms and shit.

It's weird to me how for a comedy adventure webcomic thing where one of the maint hings it does is introduce new characters to bounce off each other for more funnies people are like "hmm yes this is not serious enoguh there are too many characters" meanwhile there's a guy who's power is going inside an oven.


Dirk IMO was the only truly interesting Alpha kid, and that because of his great design (pointy anime shades), having the most intriguing personality of his quartet, and Bro easily being the best of the guardians in the Beta world. I would have liked just having Dirk around, but sadly Hussie would be forced by the game’s rules to have added in the other guardians.
Dirk as act 6 solidified into the mess it became felt like a way to offload bro's characterization onto a new character so when the "skip tot he trolls" tumblrites found early homestuck and started reeing about child abuse they still had the younger version of him to frame as cool guy.


Somehow that ended up feeling cheaper than what Dirk was earlier on which was kinda like just a weird dave version of bro like how grandpa was like a jade version of john and jane was just genderswapped john.

I came here just to post this AI slop
TTS voice president shitpost videos aren't "ai slop" but then again the slop shit in itself has just becoem meaningless garbage after the post-algo-friendly ification of the goyslop version.
 
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The fact they animated a lot of bits right in the pilot but lacked the right characterization tells me you are fucking wrong and they could have 100% translated it to animated format. Like instead of having john bitch constantly and be all pissy whilde doing things that dont' seem to make sense just have him chatting casually like he does in the comic while he's holding in laughter over shit like sticking the arms in the cake. You could easily have something funny happen where john puts the phone down and dave starts trailing off about the jupiter thing but no, we get 30 minutes of meandering about and memberberries for shit that happens far later in the comic.
I get that but I think it's more to do with the length of the series. I don't think they are aiming to cram all of homestuck into the animated series but rather abridged version. If you try to stay pure to the original story... Well it would likely be a minimum of two seasons before the kids and the trolls meet up. I don't think they are planning for that long of serialization.

I don't want to overly defend it. So far we just have a pilot but I think you should give it a shot. Worse case there is still the original and a dozen voice overs of the comic. I don't think it's going to be to mangled. That said it's the optimist in me speaking.
 
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