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Do you have a specific portion of the thread in mind? It's heinous I'll grant you that.
Help me advocate for Kiwifarms - Meeting with government officials and lobbyists this coming week.
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they seem like they're down for it, until the higher ups take 3 minutes to look at the site, then they're throwing you and everything you said under the bus for a chance at a promotion.
remember marjorie taylor greene? she just immediately blamed kf and stated it was a left wing organization plotting to dox, attack, and silence conservative view points. if you really have a chance use other examples. there are dozens of terf sites that have been targeted, that one podcast that just discusses controversial topics were canceled by mastercard. so many options that don't have added baggage.
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Show them a picture of your micropenis.
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Good strategy. Unfortunately I don't have one of those.
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Thanks for brining up the payment processor angle that's another important avenue.
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The problem is not the argument you could put forth. The argument is self-evident and many people in this thread have already pointed it out. The problem is you're dealing with Republicans, the same group of faggots who were ramming Christianity down everyone's throat and censoring for their own selfish desires only a few decades ago. Even now, as professional losers, whenever they have political clout they immediately squander it on abortion instead of making this country slightly less of a shithole than it was yesterday. If you're talking to someone close to political funding, you're either talking to someone so corrupt and part of the problem they won't listen to you, or someone so incredibly stupid and out-of-touch that they won't listen to you.
If you don't mind talking to a brick wall for a few minutes though, I highly suggest couching it through the payment processing problem. There is some blatant self-interest in making sure that no grift can be shut down just because some jackass at Stripe or Mastercard doesn't like you and wants you broke and dead. Mind you, this is precisely how the establishment controls the free exchange of ideas, so good luck duping a bunch of career politicians into destroying their well-oiled mind-control machine.
If you don't mind talking to a brick wall for a few minutes though, I highly suggest couching it through the payment processing problem. There is some blatant self-interest in making sure that no grift can be shut down just because some jackass at Stripe or Mastercard doesn't like you and wants you broke and dead. Mind you, this is precisely how the establishment controls the free exchange of ideas, so good luck duping a bunch of career politicians into destroying their well-oiled mind-control machine.
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Show them your war face.
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Thanks for your input. I agree with the sentiments expressed in your comment and the thread and will be sure to advance the financial processor aspect of the topic.
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Make the politician watch "A Taste of Freedom".
OP can bring up the whole "Bolsheviks hated censorship until they were in power, then they put it in as a 'temporary security measure' and now we're here. China did the same."
You can mention Caroline Farrow and say "You don't want to be like BRITAIN, do you?"
Private companies "unbanking" citizens without trial or recourse is fucked up. Mention the PayPal "bad speech" thing where they wanted to take $2,500 for gamer words, too.
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What? You think an internet gossip forum obsessing over e-celebs is a threat to democracy?
Alternatively:
Girls just wanna have fun.
Alternatively:
Girls just wanna have fun.
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Yes the unbanking issue is so important. I have included this in my documentation thank you.
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KiwiFarms is the canary in the coal mine. It is far too valuable to be taken away just because it chirps are annoying.
Also the point was mentioned about the attacks on freedom of banking might be your best weapon to get some of these dinosaurs and retarded boomers to pay attention. The idea their money might get blacklisted and made useless because their political opponents had some tranny and a BPD danger hair on Bank of America to drop your accounts due to "concerns" might make them do something to protect it out of simple self preservation.
Also the point was mentioned about the attacks on freedom of banking might be your best weapon to get some of these dinosaurs and retarded boomers to pay attention. The idea their money might get blacklisted and made useless because their political opponents had some tranny and a BPD danger hair on Bank of America to drop your accounts due to "concerns" might make them do something to protect it out of simple self preservation.
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You can touch on how this affects small businesses as well.
Most politicians are aware of the gay cake case (Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission) and the "this bakery is racist" case (Gibson's Bakery v. Oberlin College) , so you could probably draw a parallel to that happening to small businesses online.
Retard politicians might not be familiar with online forums, but they understand things like bakeries. So tell them:
"Now imagine if these bakeries sold their goods online, as many do these days. If someone were to take issue with one of their political stances, special interest groups could remove their protection from hackers 1, prevent them from making sales 2, and even take their site offline entirely by targeting the very internet service providers that allow you to access their website in the first place 3. Imagine if someone did that in the 90s. Imagine if you could no longer call your local plumber because someone took issue with him being openly Christian and convinced your phone company to prevent you from calling his work number.
That's happening right now."
1. DDOS protection removal, see: CloudFlare
2. Previously mentioned PayPal situation
3. No Dong's attacks on the Farms
2. Previously mentioned PayPal situation
3. No Dong's attacks on the Farms
If you need a story of how this has happened before, look into how the US military lost access to radio frequencies that were legally theirs because so many private citizens had things like garage door openers from China that used those same frequencies: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna6663032
+ https://www.army.mil/article/106123/frequencies_conflict_with_garage_openers
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Honestly, these things being your favored lines of argument feel really worrying it me.
The argument is easy enough to win if you don't go into specific and rather push to legislate on broader policies. The minute you bring up a specific, you make it a direct you against me issue with some people.
Worst, you expose yourself to criticism on an issue only loosely related to the greater point you are trying to make. It can only hurt you. The true idealist base these arguments would resonate with is already sold with the idea, they are not the ones you are preaching to.
It should not matter if democrats or republicans are abusing their resources. Neither should have the ability to do so. By blaming the other party, you weaken your argument for shock value.
People should be able to denounce or document anything they want, and face repercussion if what they say falls in defamation or libel field. Period. I don't care if it's about trannies or ugly babies, I want the freedom to mock them if they are stupid enough to post it online. There is an actual legal system in place to deal with legal issues.
Anyone using their company's power to bully an unrelated third party into submission should be liable. It does not matter if you're a 50yo asian twink or not.
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You should really ping @Gehenna if he's still about, as someone who works in this field and understands the goals and fears of these groups.
I would perhaps start with a couple of broad strokes, these being: Big Tech, which is far more aligned with Democrats then with Republicans, is trying to supplant lawmakers by creating their own de facto enforcement. Case in point a site named KiwiFarms which is an American site which has been near driven off the Internet despite never being successfully legally challenged. It's been hit by illegal DoS attacks which the police don't investigate, it's been dropped by Big Tech companies at the highest levels due not to any official process but by a word of mouth campaign of influence. The legislature, the executive, the judiciary - all are being supplanted by private, well-connected individuals. Usually of the Progressive Left.
I would observe that the Farms is a strongly freespeech site and politically neutral. And note that for all that some people take advantage of that to express socially unacceptable viewpoints it's documenting abuses by the trans community that has triggered the aggressive campaigns against it.
I think both of those key into what the Republican leadership might most care about as a lead in to other matters.
I would perhaps start with a couple of broad strokes, these being: Big Tech, which is far more aligned with Democrats then with Republicans, is trying to supplant lawmakers by creating their own de facto enforcement. Case in point a site named KiwiFarms which is an American site which has been near driven off the Internet despite never being successfully legally challenged. It's been hit by illegal DoS attacks which the police don't investigate, it's been dropped by Big Tech companies at the highest levels due not to any official process but by a word of mouth campaign of influence. The legislature, the executive, the judiciary - all are being supplanted by private, well-connected individuals. Usually of the Progressive Left.
I would observe that the Farms is a strongly freespeech site and politically neutral. And note that for all that some people take advantage of that to express socially unacceptable viewpoints it's documenting abuses by the trans community that has triggered the aggressive campaigns against it.
I think both of those key into what the Republican leadership might most care about as a lead in to other matters.
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A lot of good stuff has been posted but with this Republican leadership the narrative you need to setup is that what is happening to Kiwifarms will happen to YOU. It will happen to YOUR family, it will happen to YOUR friends, IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. YOU will be shut off from the net and the market. YOU will be denied basic freedoms for speaking your opinion.
Kiwifarms is just the first vanguard on the edge but Democrat's/Commies do not stop and will always push forward to censor more and more people.
Kiwifarms is just the first vanguard on the edge but Democrat's/Commies do not stop and will always push forward to censor more and more people.
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Tell them that you are from a marginalized internet community, and that they need to restore net neutrality in the name of equity.
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It's not the boyfriend-free girl, but the quest that matters most.
All jokes aside, I think that @NoReturn hits the nail on the head with his post.
If you make it about KF or if you try to be too controversial, I think it will hurt you. The key is to highlight the broader consequences of the issues at stake.
The best is probably to briefly gloss over the KF and branch out into the broader issues letting it happen could create.
I am not American so I don't know for sure, but you don't even have to bait them with stories that hurt Christians or republicans for them to have the exact picture in their head.
Are they really willing to let private companies and mobs of unhinged people on the Internet decide of the life and death of a business for no reason?
They removed the homepage of the website from Google results, they removed multiple threads, they bullied various third parties into stopping service, they blacklisted us from every payment processor, from every fundraising or contributor platform, from every publicity publisher etc...
All this while NOTHING illegal was ever proven. Just because despots with a great amount of pity-influence are relentless in their attacks.
If they let these giants companies take control of Internet policing, they are not only giving away the power they have now, but also putting their own interests at risk when the wind start turning.
I think that the Amazon case with the dude who got his lights shutdown because the doorbell was racist or some BS like this is a perfect example of how quick things can go bad when you give too much control to monopolies.
We made ourselves dependent on smart products, just like we did with Google. They can't just decide to take it away because some fringe group with an online voice disagree with you. How would you even defend yourself against these retards?
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If you want to touch on the ideological side of things, mention the fact the fucking pedo site boylove or whatever it's called (there is a thread about it somewhere here) is still on the fucking clearnet. How the fuck do you explain this shit? What is going on and what are the priorities of these faceless companies trying to play government?
If they truly think KF should be down, they should legislate on what exact crime is at stake. Not give away the Internet to a private consortium and open a door to a window they will never see coming.
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Just don't show them Happenings or either one of the Ukraine threads.
Also obligatory: Ask them why we shouldn't just support China and Russia instead at this point.
Also obligatory: Ask them why we shouldn't just support China and Russia instead at this point.