HBO’s Watchmen - NOTHING EVER ENDS...Except When It Should

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I gotta rewatch the film. Anything of note in the director's cut?
There's a regular "longer version" director's cut that adds a lot of little crap, then there's some really really long version that puts the pirate stuff in.
 
I gotta rewatch the film. Anything of note in the director's cut?
Ultimate cut or the fan made midnight cut . Both are very long around 4 hours but they are the most comic accurate . Ultimate cut is the best ( because it has over 34 minutes of extra footage plus the black freighter story spliced in ) and midnight cut is great cuz it also adds the supplemental material from the dvds into the story but you have to download it piece by piece and it’s like 10 gigabytes ( it also has none of the songs from the original movie just public domain stuff ) . Trust me on this I’ve watched both around 6 months ago
 
Ultimate cut or the fan made midnight cut . Both are very long around 4 hours but they are the most comic accurate . Ultimate cut is the best ( because it has over 34 minutes of extra footage plus the black freighter story spliced in ) and midnight cut is great cuz it also adds the supplemental material from the dvds into the story but you have to download it piece by piece and it’s like 10 gigabytes ( it also has none of the songs from the original movie just public domain stuff ) . Trust me on this I’ve watched both around 6 months ago

I heard about the black freighter but what is the other extra footage?
 

>Joined by star Regina King and director Nicole Kassell, Lindelof took the stage Wednesday at the Television Critics Assn. biannual press tour in Beverly Hills to discuss the series.

>The Tulsa, Okla.-set “Watchmen” will take place in an “alternate history where masked vigilantes are treated as outlaws,” according to HBO’s description. King plays Angela Abar, a baker who secretly moonlights as a lead detective in the Tulsa Police Force — possible because, in this world, cops don masks. Jeremy Irons and Don Johnson also star. . . .

>Don’t count on Alan Moore, the author of the revered comic, being among the show’s viewers. Lindelof acknowledged that Moore, as with past adaptations of his work, didn’t want to be affiliated with the project — which includes not allowing his name to be used to promote the series. “Alan Moore is a genius, ... He’s made it clear he doesn’t want any association ... which I want to respect. I have made personal overtures to connect with him. [But] he made it clear that he didn’t want that to happen."

>How does the TV series connect with its source material? “We are not going to mess with it. It’s canon,” Lindelof says. “Everything that happened in those 12 issues could not be messed with. We were married to it. There is no rebooting it.”

>White supremacy is at the forefront of the story. “What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians?” Lindelof posited. “It is race and the police. ... There are no easy answers and grandiose solutions. In a traditional superhero movie, superheros fight the aliens. There’s no defeating white supremacy. It’s not going away.”

>While the series is set in the present day, there is no internet (and no smartphones) in this world.
 

>Joined by star Regina King and director Nicole Kassell, Lindelof took the stage Wednesday at the Television Critics Assn. biannual press tour in Beverly Hills to discuss the series.

>The Tulsa, Okla.-set “Watchmen” will take place in an “alternate history where masked vigilantes are treated as outlaws,” according to HBO’s description. King plays Angela Abar, a baker who secretly moonlights as a lead detective in the Tulsa Police Force — possible because, in this world, cops don masks. Jeremy Irons and Don Johnson also star. . . .

>Don’t count on Alan Moore, the author of the revered comic, being among the show’s viewers. Lindelof acknowledged that Moore, as with past adaptations of his work, didn’t want to be affiliated with the project — which includes not allowing his name to be used to promote the series. “Alan Moore is a genius, ... He’s made it clear he doesn’t want any association ... which I want to respect. I have made personal overtures to connect with him. [But] he made it clear that he didn’t want that to happen."

>How does the TV series connect with its source material? “We are not going to mess with it. It’s canon,” Lindelof says. “Everything that happened in those 12 issues could not be messed with. We were married to it. There is no rebooting it.”

>White supremacy is at the forefront of the story. “What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians?” Lindelof posited. “It is race and the police. ... There are no easy answers and grandiose solutions. In a traditional superhero movie, superheros fight the aliens. There’s no defeating white supremacy. It’s not going away.”

>While the series is set in the present day, there is no internet (and no smartphones) in this world.

"White supremacy is the greatest threat in this universe."

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>White supremacy is at the forefront of the story. “What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians?” Lindelof posited. “It is race and the police. ... There are no easy answers and grandiose solutions. In a traditional superhero movie, superheros fight the aliens. There’s no defeating white supremacy. It’s not going away.”

Imagine being so obsessed with a virtually nonexistent Western problem that you have to create fictional worlds to usher it into "existence."

Of course Lindelof had "the Russians" on his mind as well. I'm sure there's some Muh Russia/Orange Man Bad shit in here, too. Sigh.

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EDIT: I also love that the only possible way the writers could maybe point to "white supremacy" (and I use the term loosely) in the modern West ("muh /pol/") was eliminated by the script. Really smart writing.

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>The Tulsa, Okla.-set “Watchmen” will take place in an “alternate history where masked vigilantes are treated as outlaws,” according to HBO’s description

In what universe would "masked vigilantes" not be "outlaws?"

Unless you're a histrionic weirdo who stans for Antifags...

I know the answer is "reeeeeee racism" but why can't Doctor Manhattan who's an actual literal God stop a bunch of racist hicks?

For budgetary reasons, I'm sure Manhattan will be gone from Earth forever.
 
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“What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians?” Lindelof posited. “It is race and the police. ... There are no easy answers and grandiose solutions. In a traditional superhero movie, superheros fight the aliens. There’s no defeating white supremacy. It’s not going away.”

How about... the nuclear standoff between the Americans and Russians? Why didn't we bomb russia after they annexed crimea? Because we didn't want a nuclear war.

No, it's not the fucking cops and black people. No, that's so fucking stupid. So stupid. Where are the world ending implications? Where's the balanced power dynamics? Oh they don't exist? Sounds like a shit show then...
 
"White Supremacy is the 2019 equivalent of the America Vs. Russia"*sigh*
2020 can not come soon enough because these fucks need to be put in their place again.
Okay in all seriousness that concept probably makes if you assume the mindset of the people making this.
To your average Hollywood Limousine Liberal "White Supremacy" means arresting Illegal Immigrants or Trump calling Omar and AOC idiots or just Trump being President at all.
It's not even worth getting mad over it's just a fact of life.
I am sad that even Watchmen has been coopted into being propaganda for a dying ideology though.
 

>Joined by star Regina King and director Nicole Kassell, Lindelof took the stage Wednesday at the Television Critics Assn. biannual press tour in Beverly Hills to discuss the series.

>The Tulsa, Okla.-set “Watchmen” will take place in an “alternate history where masked vigilantes are treated as outlaws,” according to HBO’s description. King plays Angela Abar, a baker who secretly moonlights as a lead detective in the Tulsa Police Force — possible because, in this world, cops don masks. Jeremy Irons and Don Johnson also star. . . .

>Don’t count on Alan Moore, the author of the revered comic, being among the show’s viewers. Lindelof acknowledged that Moore, as with past adaptations of his work, didn’t want to be affiliated with the project — which includes not allowing his name to be used to promote the series. “Alan Moore is a genius, ... He’s made it clear he doesn’t want any association ... which I want to respect. I have made personal overtures to connect with him. [But] he made it clear that he didn’t want that to happen."

>How does the TV series connect with its source material? “We are not going to mess with it. It’s canon,” Lindelof says. “Everything that happened in those 12 issues could not be messed with. We were married to it. There is no rebooting it.”

>White supremacy is at the forefront of the story. “What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians?” Lindelof posited. “It is race and the police. ... There are no easy answers and grandiose solutions. In a traditional superhero movie, superheros fight the aliens. There’s no defeating white supremacy. It’s not going away.”

>While the series is set in the present day, there is no internet (and no smartphones) in this world.

How could a present day world not have internet and smartphones? Wasn't the world supposed to be a little more technologically advanced in the 1980s?

And nuclear war is as central a theme to Watchmen as superheroes, if that's not going to be a factor in the story line then they've missed the point entirely, nuclear war is still relevant subject matter for the present day.
 
How could a present day world not have internet and smartphones? Wasn't the world supposed to be a little more technologically advanced in the 1980s?

And nuclear war is as central a theme to Watchmen as superheroes, if that's not going to be a factor in the story line then they've missed the point entirely, nuclear war is still relevant subject matter for the present day.

They don't want to make an adaptation. They want to preach to people, but they know if they do it on their own, with whatever awful attempt at fiction that they write originally, then no one will listen. They need to latch onto an established, beloved IP, with a built in fanbase guarnteed to watch it which they can then presume to 'educate.'

These people are, essentially, parasites.
 

>Joined by star Regina King and director Nicole Kassell, Lindelof took the stage Wednesday at the Television Critics Assn. biannual press tour in Beverly Hills to discuss the series.

>The Tulsa, Okla.-set “Watchmen” will take place in an “alternate history where masked vigilantes are treated as outlaws,” according to HBO’s description. King plays Angela Abar, a baker who secretly moonlights as a lead detective in the Tulsa Police Force — possible because, in this world, cops don masks. Jeremy Irons, Jean Smart, and Don Johnson also star. . . .

>Don’t count on Alan Moore, the author of the revered comic, being among the show’s viewers. Lindelof acknowledged that Moore, as with past adaptations of his work, didn’t want to be affiliated with the project — which includes not allowing his name to be used to promote the series. “Alan Moore is a genius, ... He’s made it clear he doesn’t want any association ... which I want to respect. I have made personal overtures to connect with him. [But] he made it clear that he didn’t want that to happen."

>How does the TV series connect with its source material? “We are not going to mess with it. It’s canon,” Lindelof says. “Everything that happened in those 12 issues could not be messed with. We were married to it. There is no rebooting it.”

>White supremacy is at the forefront of the story. “What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians?” Lindelof posited. “It is race and the police. ... There are no easy answers and grandiose solutions. In a traditional superhero movie, superheros fight the aliens. There’s no defeating white supremacy. It’s not going away.”

>While the series is set in the present day, there is no internet (and no smartphones) in this world.

Fixed it.

Is Alan Moore a mean person in general? I feel like he would be unpleasant to be around ala Faye Dunaway. Like I know he hates the projects but the creators all have said how important the book was to them for whatever reasons. The film wasn't perfect but Snyder tried to keep true to the original which is ironic considering all the shit he has given us in subsequent years. Same with V for Vendetta.

My understanding is he was gonna use original DC characters but was unable to. Could his bitterness stem from that.
 
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