HBO’s Watchmen - NOTHING EVER ENDS...Except When It Should

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So now it basically can't be defended. People stretched Moore's authorial intent to its breaking point; making the main focus of the story galaxybrain Nazis isn't covered by that.
 
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Manwithn0n0men dijo:
....WAT?
That is really bad
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Dom Cruise dijo:
The V For Vendetta movie is pretty good, isn't it?
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Manwithn0n0men dijo:
If you never read the comic
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Yeah, it was pretty much this for me. I liked it a lot when I saw it but I hadn't read the comic either.

I have the same type of questions about From Hell. I haven't seen the movie, or read the comic it's based on. Is the movie worth watching, and how's the comic? Is it considered to be one of Moore's better works?

Notgoodwithusernames dijo:
Ok so I heard on Mauler's discord that Wolf tweeted that the plan of Seventh Kalvary was to become like DR Manhattan to kill all the liberals and minorities. Is this true?
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Damn, that sounds pretty, pretty bad. I remember people itt speculating a few episodes ago that the show might actually be nuanced enough to make it worth watching, but I guess all that was just wishful thinking. Thanks Lindlehoff, for being such a castrated cuck that it was easy to not watch hours of insulting preachiness, even if it had one of the few IPs that might still tempt to go against my better judgement
 
Dom Cruise dijo:
The V For Vendetta movie is pretty good, isn't it?
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The only thing good about it is the parts of the comic book it kept; everything they added was shit; everything they left out was shit.

Hearing natalie portman pretend to have a british accemt was as grating as when keanu reeves tried to play an englishman one time. I think she said "tele" once and that's it.

You know it's easy to demonstrate how shit it is, if you just look at the very first scene in book and movie, the one that establishes the world.

In the movie, Evey the 20-something goes home a little late from her comfy tv job, misses curfew times and gets harassed by a couple of thugs who turns out to be fingermen (cops). Then gets saved by a weirdo in a guy fawkes man who's fight is a laurel and hardy slapstick comedy with pants falling down and all. He also seems to end up killing one, making her appropriately afraid of her saviour.

In the book a 16 year old Evey is terrified by what she is about to do. Through sheer desperation she makes herself up and decides to go out and sell herself for the first time. Then the first person she tries to sollicit turns out to be a finger (cop). And then rather than turn her in, he plans to sample the wares. This establishes her desperation and the corrupt and oppressive regime that the movie has difficulty really establishing. It explains why Evey would ever stay with the underground weirdo and also lets us see how this is a world that fails desperate 16 yearolds (rather than one that has dangerous streets at night when you come home from work). You can see why for a while she begins to imagine that maybe under that mask is her father.

The whole movie suffers for not establishing the world. It's a shame the LSD induced investigation is gone, where he suddenly goes into a memory lane and regrets the complete genocide of black people. Removing falling in love with a computer AI subplot I kinda get that it was scrapped. But in general the movie just has this sarcastic tone to it all that completely undermines every punch it could make. It doesn't take itself serious, so why should we? Of course going the funny route can work, but then you actually have to be funny and not use it as an excuse/shield for the more peculiar ideas.

At least some of the jokes in adam west's batman are funny.
 
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So I was thinking the plot of this show over and something just came to me:

It stars strong women who is constantly pushed around by wrong thinking people
everyone who goes along with the system are nothing more than blind sheep who refuse to admit reality
The strong woman and all people who side with strong women are the real victims of an oppressive society
The government is run by evil people who wish strangle and imprison the masses through insincere benevolence
the bad people have an advanced piece of technology that they will use to inflict their horrible will upon everyone
Near the end of the story we encounter an ubermensch type persona that everyone is obsessed with and is the lover of strong woman

This show has the plot of Atlas Shrugged.
 
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I've liked the series so far, but have no idea how Keene's plan to get cops to wear masks so that no-one knows who the good guys and bad guys are amounts to a strategy to become President. Those master plan reveals in the last episode were as underwhelming as the characters responding to them made out.

The Dr Manhatten twist is a very late way to give Angela a role in the plot. I'd been wondering why the show was paying any attention to her.

Lots of things still in play, but the 7K shit better have more pay off and motivation than "yeah, white supremacists."
 
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