Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Just saw some coping over the pride art.
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Gonna take a wild guess and say omnisexual is bisexual with extra steps.
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Brother, like 90 of them look like imps.
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Lmao way to miss the point of the Hitler question.
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I don’t even know what to say about the last one, it’s too early for this.
Ya know, me and bud of mine chatted about this. But, holy hell are these guys not helping their case, with sonas both being imps and all this in the art dep. Like, you're practically giving ammo to anti-gay, trolls or whatever fuck wankers imaginable with this idea. Seriously, during this collab did anyone stop and go "Hey guys, we sure we arent gonna do more damage with this?"
 
That has to be my most disliked song in the whole series. Not only are the lyrics and melody shit, but the message conveyed didn't even really apply to Vaggie or contribute towards her character growth. Between it and Episode 3, it's clear they just wanted the spicy Latina ladies to have another duet.
It's up there with Respectless since that's also a song with dogshit melody and lyrics and it's an I Am song for a character that doesn't matter for that season or the next one.

@SpiderBitch The problem with employing so many fags is that you're inevitably going to get one of them engaging in the homosexual reproductive strategy of diddling children.
 
That’s probably true though I don’t know why but I imagine that the voice actor for blitz might be a creep
Yeah, I'm convinced that Brandon Rogers is gonna get busted at some point. Every single publicity photo I've seen of him makes him look like the kind of gay man who doesn't listen when a straight guy says he's straight and starts grabbing asses after his third or fourth appletini, and I remember seeing at least one anecdote in either this or Vivzie's thread where he was at a panel and said something inappropriate in response to a question while there were kids/teenagers in the room. If it's not Amir Talai, it'll be him.
 
Something I've been thinking about with these shows is how obsessed the creators are on making sure everyone pictures the characters exactly how they want.

I remember when they made a comment about Alastor not having a tail for example. They stated in the show he didn't and followed it by breaking the 4th wall and saying "I know that's gonna make some people mad".

Or how they would get upset in the pilot days because people compared him to a Wendigo. They feel the need to correct any and every small little thing that the fans try to use to have fun. Satan commenting on Lucifer? Oh yeah um actually-

Pent is dragged into another room to be assaulted? Yeah um actually-

It's ridiculous. Ive never seen creators of a work actually try to debunk people's ideas as much as Vivziepop. I wonder if it's because she's had these characters since she was like, 12 and is too attached to her specific idea of them that she can't stand seeing other iterations.

Other iterations are what brings AU, fanart, roleplay, fan fiction, etc that keeps your story alive even years after it ended. Why they're obsessed with people only seeing their characters through one lens and no other is beyond me.
 
Something I've been thinking about with these shows is how obsessed the creators are on making sure everyone pictures the characters exactly how they want.

I remember when they made a comment about Alastor not having a tail for example. They stated in the show he didn't and followed it by breaking the 4th wall and saying "I know that's gonna make some people mad".

Or how they would get upset in the pilot days because people compared him to a Wendigo. They feel the need to correct any and every small little thing that the fans try to use to have fun. Satan commenting on Lucifer? Oh yeah um actually-

Pent is dragged into another room to be assaulted? Yeah um actually-

It's ridiculous. Ive never seen creators of a work actually try to debunk people's ideas as much as Vivziepop. I wonder if it's because she's had these characters since she was like, 12 and is too attached to her specific idea of them that she can't stand seeing other iterations.

Other iterations are what brings AU, fanart, roleplay, fan fiction, etc that keeps your story alive even years after it ended. Why they're obsessed with people only seeing their characters through one lens and no other is beyond me.
I'd say that if you have to constantly correct yourself, then you're a fraud. Not much creators interact with their own fandom and when they do, they shut shit down fast if people cause issues. However, just like Cooper. They have to constantly bend over backwards to justify their shitty problems. I'd argue Viv would be a different person if she never was woke, or posted on Tumblr, 99% of creators who post on Tumblr always are, in some extent just wokelrinas or people with too much expectations, she'd have better chances being an edgy Newgrounds Artist.

Yeah, I'm convinced that Brandon Rogers is gonna get busted at some point. Every single publicity photo I've seen of him makes him look like the kind of gay man who doesn't listen when a straight guy says he's straight and starts grabbing asses after his third or fourth appletini, and I remember seeing at least one anecdote in either this or Vivzie's thread where he was at a panel and said something inappropriate in response to a question while there were kids/teenagers in the room. If it's not Amir Talai, it'll be him.
He did do a bit in blackface where he performed oral on a baby doll. Circa 2008.
 
I remember when they made a comment about Alastor not having a tail for example. They stated in the show he didn't and followed it by breaking the 4th wall and saying "I know that's gonna make some people mad".
But yet totally ignore shit like Alastor being built up as some monstrous lord of chaos and actually presented rather well as an extreme menace, only to get the floor mopped with him the instant things actually got tough. Style over substance.
 
Yeah, I'm convinced that Brandon Rogers is gonna get busted at some point. Every single publicity photo I've seen of him makes him look like the kind of gay man who doesn't listen when a straight guy says he's straight and starts grabbing asses after his third or fourth appletini, and I remember seeing at least one anecdote in either this or Vivzie's thread where he was at a panel and said something inappropriate in response to a question while there were kids/teenagers in the room. If it's not Amir Talai, it'll be him.
If it comes to point where Brandon is no longer part of Helluva because of some trouble he gets in, what do you think will happen with Blitzo? He gets written out (aka killed off), he gets a different voice actor, or does the whole show get canned?
 
If it comes to point where Brandon is no longer part of Helluva because of some trouble he gets in, what do you think will happen with Blitzo? He gets written out (aka killed off), he gets a different voice actor, or does the whole show get canned?
Probably just switch actors. They can make a joke about how Katie's voice is suddenly different, too, only for her to say it's not the first time it's happened.
 
That's stupid. Besides the fact that Vaggie should know that leaving someone alive who has such a vendetta against her and what her girlfriend is trying to do is a terrible idea, Vaggie has been shown that she will answer any problems with violence and even killing. She was going to kill Sir Pentious with her angelic spear when it was made known that he was a spy for Vox.
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It would have made more sense narrative and character wise if she was about to kill Lute, but hearing that Charlie needed help left Lute. Because her girlfriend's safety was more important than killing her enemy. Would also play into the the dumb song that Carmilla sung to Vaggie on how she shouldn't fight for vengeance but for love instead.
IMO choosing to spare Lute should have been what caused Vaggie's wings to regrow, not the song about fighting for love (since when has Vaggie's motivation not been fighting for Charlie?)
 
Just saw some coping over the pride art.
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Gonna take a wild guess and say omnisexual is bisexual with extra steps.
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Brother, like 90% of them look like imps.
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Lmao way to miss the point of the Hitler question.
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I don’t even know what to say about the last one, it’s too early for this.
Media literacy is when you correctly identify that your "pro-pride" artwork is implying that everyone in hell is gay and that's a good thing somehow.
 
Media literacy is when you correctly identify that your "pro-pride" artwork is implying that everyone in hell is gay and that's a good thing somehow.
It has been discussed at lenght here, too, still I can't understand how the creators don't get how bad of a look that is. I mean, most Catholics overwhelmingly do not believe gay/trans people are marked for hell,at all,even those "unchaste" (if monogamous of course). Apart from weirdos like the Society of Saint Pius X (now excommunicated by Pope Leo).

Hell should be full of obviously morally bad people like murderers,fraudsters,rapists,torturers and the likes (s.th Lucifer has implied). And sure, as I believe in purgatory, they absolutely could and should try to reach heaven (it's called hopeful universalism aka the hope that ultimately hell is empty due to God's limitless mercy. Not a heresy btw).
 
I'd argue Viv would be a different person if she never was woke, or posted on Tumblr, 99% of creators who post on Tumblr always are, in some extent just wokelrinas or people with too much expectations, she'd have better chances being an edgy Newgrounds Artist.
I mean, Arin was from the edgy Newgrounds group and look at what a tosser he turned out and how quickly he tossed everyone under the bus. I think really it doesn't matter if you're Newgrounds or Tumbrl, it just comes down if your arse can take the bullshit pressure from the fanbase wankers yer gonna deal with or not. An both Twitter and Bluesky being the ratholes that they are, it's pretty much like dancing on a minefield during an arty barrage.
 
It has been discussed at lenght here, too, still I can't understand how the creators don't get how bad of a look that is. I mean, most Catholics overwhelmingly do not believe gay/trans people are marked for hell,at all,even those "unchaste" (if monogamous of course). Apart from weirdos like the Society of Saint Pius X (now excommunicated by Pope Leo).

Hell should be full of obviously morally bad people like murderers,fraudsters,rapists,torturers and the likes (s.th Lucifer has implied). And sure, as I believe in purgatory, they absolutely could and should try to reach heaven (it's called hopeful universalism aka the hope that ultimately hell is empty due to God's limitless mercy. Not a heresy btw).
To be fair to the crew, none of their OCs are sinners, but rather Hellborne, ie. creatures that are in Hell due to misfortune of birth rather than damnation from actions on Earth. So they're not even unintentionally saying that gay people are doomed to Hell.
 
To be fair to the crew, none of their OCs are sinners, but rather Hellborne, ie. creatures that are in Hell due to misfortune of birth rather than damnation from actions on Earth. So they're not even unintentionally saying that gay people are doomed to Hell.
Correct.I had HH in mind, Stil,that opens another can of worms...
 
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