Gunpowder Milkshake - fem expendables?

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- budget seems to be about $30M, principal shoot was in 2019 and I guess they have sat on it this year rather than release it digitally
- grrl-power port of an existing concept, but with an all-woman lead, which is right up STXFilms' niche ("original mid-budget genre flicks")
- cast packed with B-listers hot off buzzy roles; I guess they're going for name draw. I personally never feel good about pics with ensembles of "oh hey I know X" actors, it's a middling proposition and you have to pay a lot of money for it
- written and directed by 3 Israelis ("Aharon Keshales and Navot Papushado. The duo wrote the script with Ehud Lavski")

my aspie sense says it looks like a mediocre idea which got greenlit due to studio politics, and has kind of plodded along. Carnac the Magnificent predicts: it'll have middling returns domestically, make up a moderate profit overseas, but not enough that the studio's "franchise potential" for a sequel is realised.

 
But when a high-risk job goes wrong, Sam must choose between serving The Firm and protecting the life of an innocent 8-year-old girl

This is just fucking female John Wick. Stealing the story and the visual aesthetics too.
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You ever notice they only make angry and depressing movies now? It's all gritty thrillers full of death and destruction. Nothing is ever lighthearted and fun. No one ever goes on an adventure. There's never any message other than "everything is shit."
Taking this year out of the equation for obvious reasons (though that includes things like Sonic the Hedgehog) I'd disagree with that. Lots of lighthearted films, they're just usually not particularly impactful. To just go with Karen Gillan, I'd hardly call the last Jumanji movie as a depressing slog. Not high art, but light and fun enough.
 
Taking this year out of the equation for obvious reasons (though that includes things like Sonic the Hedgehog) I'd disagree with that. Lots of lighthearted films, they're just usually not particularly impactful. To just go with Karen Gillan, I'd hardly call the last Jumanji movie as a depressing slog. Not high art, but light and fun enough.
It's subtle, and even comedies do it. Allow me to draw your attention to their costuming. In the remake they are wearing 'movie people' costumes, in a high-concept, low-suspension-of-disbelief style. Their clothes are gritty, shitty, and tailored to their characters. In the original movie everyone wears clothes because they are people. Wholesome clothes which cover the little girl's flesh and doesn't make her a cheap whore for chinese audiences. In the original movie, the jokes come from the constructions of the scenes and their absurdity, and the drama comes from hoping everything turns out okay. In the remake, they make fart jokes. The original is actually more realistic and more "gritty," but it leaves me with a warm fuzzy feeling, whereas the remake makes me want to kill myself every single frame.

Everything is shit now, and I think it might be on purpose.
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That might be on you. But I agree, the original is a classic and doesn't get enough love.
 
- budget seems to be about $30M, principal shoot was in 2019 and I guess they have sat on it this year rather than release it digitally
- grrl-power port of an existing concept, but with an all-woman lead, which is right up STXFilms' niche ("original mid-budget genre flicks")
- cast packed with B-listers hot off buzzy roles; I guess they're going for name draw. I personally never feel good about pics with ensembles of "oh hey I know X" actors, it's a middling proposition and you have to pay a lot of money for it
- written and directed by 3 Israelis ("Aharon Keshales and Navot Papushado. The duo wrote the script with Ehud Lavski")

my aspie sense says it looks like a mediocre idea which got greenlit due to studio politics, and has kind of plodded along. Carnac the Magnificent predicts: it'll have middling returns domestically, make up a moderate profit overseas, but not enough that the studio's "franchise potential" for a sequel is realised.

Well, let's not kid ourselves; we'd be pirating it anyway. I can't remember the last time I went to see a movie, much less paid for one.
 
This is gonna flop. Not because no one wants it. Not because it's a bad movie (it could be, maybe it isn't). It's gonna flop because Gunpowder Milkshake is a fucking stupid name for a movie. The neo-grindhouse trend is dead.
You ever notice they only make angry and depressing movies now? It's all gritty thrillers full of death and destruction. Nothing is ever lighthearted and fun. No one ever goes on an adventure. There's never any message other than "everything is shit."
I firmly believe that this is because Hollywood is such a vile cesspool of degradation and exploitation that the people working there can't imagine that maybe the rest of the world doesn't hold those values.
 
This is gonna flop. Not because no one wants it. Not because it's a bad movie (it could be, maybe it isn't). It's gonna flop because Gunpowder Milkshake is a fucking stupid name for a movie. The neo-grindhouse trend is dead.

I firmly believe that this is because Hollywood is such a vile cesspool of degradation and exploitation that the people working there can't imagine that maybe the rest of the world doesn't hold those values.
Eh. I mean I'm one of the few who legitimately loved Death Proof.
 
I firmly believe that this is because Hollywood is such a vile cesspool of degradation and exploitation that the people working there can't imagine that maybe the rest of the world doesn't hold those values.
This is why Star Trek Discovery and Star Trek Picard were so shit. The writers cannot envision a brighter, better future.
 
The only thing interesting about it is how they are going to make killing other people "female empowering". Probably have all the targets bein evil (ie conservative) white men and the twist being that the original organization was also comprised of evil white men.

Besides that, it falls into the trap of many female versions of X, where men won't see it because women in action roles are 95% of the time fake, and women don't watch it because if they'll watch an action film they want some beefcake to walk without a shirt, rather than a collection of ancient harpies.
 
This is gonna flop. Not because no one wants it. Not because it's a bad movie (it could be, maybe it isn't). It's gonna flop because Gunpowder Milkshake is a fucking stupid name for a movie. The neo-grindhouse trend is dead.
They don't even know how to make one if they tried. These filmmakers assume overlaying a bad film print filter and intentionally poor acting make a "grindhouse" flick.
Eh. I mean I'm one of the few who legitimately loved Death Proof.
It was okay. I got the Crown International vibe the film was giving. I liked the Zatoichi reference for what its worth.
 
A kid works for the same secret agency that their parent worked for and now, the kid must fight with the agency?
Such an original concept... this is the kind of movie I would have skipped even 15 years ago, it's so overplayed.
I already know all the plot twists.
Everything about this feels dated, even the title is like something from 2007.
Made by a foreign writer/director who made some things which supposedly are decent so at least they have that going for them.

Also, it's silly that the mom's actress is only 15 years older than the daughter, I wonder if they'll mention that fact, probably not.
 
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