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Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...
So, they made those games harder to circumvent their short run time. I say harder, but as cheaply difficult as possible to stretch out gameplay. So you’re saying, you’d pay $60 for Super Mario Brothers 1 on the NES because of inflation?
Let’s go back to my actress example. Say Faye Dunaway had a salary of $80,000 from her performance in Bonnie and Clyde. It’s been ten years since she starred in any major film like that. She buys all this plastic surgery and expensive clothing, yet still demands for her next film to be paid triple for a lesser performance because she splurged on extravagant cosmetics.
Would you still think her next film would be worth to see at whatever price they chalk up?
Your weird actress analogy just does not make sense. One person splurging and demanding more is just an individual being greedy — and honestly it wouldn't even move the needle on the box office price.
But what if it's not just one actress asking for more, but all the actors, because their rent and cost of living have gone up? Then prices rise and customers don't have much choice. And those same people will also earn more money over time, which pushes prices up again — it's a never-ending circle of inflation.
I've got plenty of criticism for GTA6, but the price isn't even the main issue. General inflation absolutely affects development costs, and that feeds into the price of the final product. If anything, gaming prices have stayed relatively stable over the years and actually trailed behind inflation.
So, they made those games harder to circumvent their short run time. I say harder, but as cheaply difficult as possible to stretch out gameplay. So you’re saying, you’d pay $60 for Super Mario Brothers 1 on the NES because of inflation?
I am saying that GTA VI is a bargain, even for $100. It is a statement of objective fact that you get more game for your dollar now than you did back then. You get more value in the form of entertainment for the same price. The original Mario for the NES would be around $77.83 in today's money. But no one would be willing to pay that for a game that simple. Today, for that price, you'd expect GTA VI. And judging by the broke boys in this thread, even that is too expensive. THEY WANT EVEN MORE CONTENT. AND IT SHOULD BE CHEAPER.
I've got plenty of criticism for GTA6, but the price isn't even the main issue. General inflation absolutely affects development costs, and that feeds into the price of the final product.
I'm completely aware of the AI industry causing prices for electronics like computers and smartphones to increase because they're buying processors and CPUs/GPUs in bulk. I'm aware of cost of living increasing for various reasons, which gives a trickle-down effect on consumer spending.
Again, I do not have an issue with GTA VI's price proposition itself. The problem is how they're rationalizing that price point by paywalling overall customization behind their ultimate edition. GTA VI has been lauded as a premium entertainment product, yet they are compromising it by "offering" less for more.
Think of why somebody would enjoy open world games. Open exploration, non-linear progression, basic immersion through multiple parameters that MAKE the world feel alive. Locking four shops behind an arbitrary paywall not only breaks immersion, but creates a precedent that gameplay elements can be priced out where your game feels incomplete by design.
Probably too late to put my 2 cents in but whatever. I was dreading them making the game $100 base because god knows the rest of the industry will follow suit no matter what Rockstar decides to do. The game's budget has also ballooned to what? Almost 2 billion now? I don't see how they could make that back. Even if they break even that still seems like a huge wasted effort. I'm sure the singleplayer is going to sell a ton but they're just waiting for the online to come out so 12 year old timmy can steal his mom's credit card and buy $200 in shark cards so he can fly around murdering people with the oppressor mark 3 the day the servers go live.
I am saying that GTA VI is a bargain, even for $100. It is a statement of objective fact that you get more game for your dollar now than you did back then. You get more value in the form of entertainment for the same price. The original Mario for the NES would be around $77.83 in today's money. But no one would be willing to pay that for a game that simple. Today, for that price, you'd expect GTA VI. And judging by the broke boys in this thread, even that is too expensive. THEY WANT EVEN MORE CONTENT. AND IT SHOULD BE CHEAPER.
You're a fucking retarded bootlicking nigger by the way. I saw some of your posts earlier at work. Holy shit dude you need to get your priorities straight. Why the fuck should anyone have to spend $100 on a game to get all the features in it? Fucking ridiculous man. But we all know that the battle for that was lost when fucking horse armor came out. And the retarded sparklehorse in WoW sold way more than Blizzard could have imagined back in 2010.
This game hasn't had ANY gameplay shown yet outside the leaks, and people are rushing to defend the absurdity that is paywalled features.
I wanted to talk about the game being digital only as well. I'm sure part of the reason why is it will save on manufacturing costs. I don't know why they're even bothering printing sleeves. I don't believe they're gonna bother putting in the comprehensive manuals and physical map posters.
There's one thing that pisses off investors more than anything. And it's seeing headlines like this. Not because they care about the game leaking, but because people are very likely able to just get copies for free. I tried to find pictures of pallets of the game being taken and sold by thieves, but I've had no such luck. But I do remember it happening.
I'm sure that with digital only codes, as well as the game being so heavily restricted, Rockstar has done the best it could to ensure the game won't be leaked early unless it's by an insider in the company. But with the rumors of how strict the security is for the studio, I'm doubtful that will happen either.
Again another reason for the industry to move to digital only. Not only is it more convenient, but it's what Rockstar is doing. They've always been used as the example of what other big companies in the industry should be doing. For better or for worse.
people are saying there's gonna be console shortages come GTA VI's release.
A major games retailer has warned that there won’t be enough consoles to meet demand over the Holiday period.
Game shops are expecting a surge in interest around PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S and X when Grand Theft Auto 6 launches on November 19.
But a senior games buyer, speaking without the permission of his employer, told us: “We’ve been informed that because of the on-going issues around hardware component availability, we won’t be getting the units we want ahead of GTA.” He added: “Demand will likely outstrip supply during the year end period.”
We’ve contacted PlayStation and Xbox about the claim. Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki told investors in May that “for calendar year 2026, the necessary volume has been secured”
However, Xbox Chief Strategy Officer Matthew Ball told The Game Business earlier in the month that there are already supply issues.
“I can tell you definitively demand for our console exceeds the supply,” he told us. “We are putting them in as many stores as possible. We are producing them as quickly as possible. There is a severe limitation to how quickly we can do that, but it’s not a question of appetite. We need to do more, but there are constraints here. And so there are, unfortunately, a number of different markets in which we do not have supply. There are other markets in which we have inadequate supply. That is a privilege as a company it is a challenge for us to figure out.”
When we asked about the potential impact of Grand Theft Auto 6, he said: “It’s going to invigorate a lot of players. It’s going to move some additional devices.”
Rockstar announced this week that Grand Theft Auto 6 will come in two versions, a Standard version for $79.99 and an Ultimate Edition at $99.99. The game’s price is around $10 higher than other AAA games. The physical edition of the title does not include a disc at launch.
Again, I do not have an issue with GTA VI's price proposition itself. The problem is how they're rationalizing that price point by paywalling overall customization behind their ultimate edition. GTA VI has been lauded as a premium entertainment product, yet they are compromising it by "offering" less for more.
Think of why somebody would enjoy open world games. Open exploration, non-linear progression, basic immersion through multiple parameters that MAKE the world feel alive. Locking four shops behind an arbitrary paywall not only breaks immersion, but creates a precedent that gameplay elements can be priced out where your game feels incomplete by design.
Oh if that's what you were arguing I agree. Of course that shit is indefensible. I was ok with buying the old Collector's Editions because at least you would get decent bang for your buck in terms of physical collector's items and it was "old GTA".
If $80 is to much for you then im guessing you cant afford the hardware to play the game, Null should lock the thread and only allow people that send verification that they can even play the game (if they have a ps5 or a xbox series console) to reply.
Oh if that's what you were arguing I agree. Of course that shit is indefensible. I was ok with buying the old Collector's Editions because at least you would get decent bang for your buck in terms of physical collector's items and it was "old GTA".
That's why I compared VI's Ultimate Edition to IV's Special Edition a few pages back. I'm not against ultimate or collector's editions of video games. VI's "ultimate edition" isn't "ultimate," it's the base game sold for more.
Even if they break even that still seems like a huge wasted effort. I'm sure the singleplayer is going to sell a ton but they're just waiting for the online to come out so 12 year old timmy can steal his mom's credit card and buy $200 in shark cards so he can fly around murdering people with the oppressor mark 3 the day the servers go live.
Remember that several countries, even a few states in the US, are proposing identification laws for account owners to verify themselves to access certain websites or create accounts. Most people will be "locked out" of the next GTA online component because Rockstar has to comply with federal and international law to sell their product.
Little Timmy in Europe may be siphoned out of VI's online because they cannot verify identification they do not possess. Or, worse, an adult may choose NOT to verify ID for privacy reasons, therefore VI's online is harder to access. Less people playing the online means less opportunity to sell virtual currency, subscriptions, or player engagement.
Now we have another plausible reason of why they're upselling GTA V's single player out the gate. They want, NEED, to make as much money as possible to meet financial expectations. But, they created this uphill battle themselves. They could've released smaller titles in between GTA VI's development hell. They could've had a smaller team to continuously update Red Dead Online with substantial content to satisfy that playerbase and get new players.
In short, while I understand the predicament GTA VI is in, they created it themselves.
Even with marketing its budget will be under $2 billion. Industry estimates put its development around a more realistic $750 million at the absolute highest end. Even if you double that with marketing you are still left with an extra $500 million compared to a full $2 billion. That extra $500 million is enough to pay for Read Dead Redemption 2's entire development and marketing budget. They aren't spending more than $1.3 billion on GTA6 despite the hysterical predictions on social media. And part of the media claiming "Most Expensive Game Ever!" is just disguised marketing hype.
If they sell 30 million basic edition copies in one year and get a 50% cut of sales that's still $1.2 billion. They will sell probably more copies, many of which will be the ultra edition, and they'll get a higher percentage of each sale than half. This game is priced to be profitable in its first year of sales. Then you factor in GTA6 Online and Shark Cards and you will have one of the most profitable games of all time unless Rockstar has a catastrophic collapse.
There will be shortages but supply will be the real issue. Microsoft just stopped making its 2TB models of Xbox units. Both Microsoft and SONY are already going to have more price increases in the fall. They can't get the components to make these consoles at reasonable prices anymore.
they're making her look like an onlyfans ho. overly long nails, butt out but hidden titties, large lips, and a shitty attitude you can tell from the expression. ofc she's not attractive to us (although she probably would be attractive to a late zoomer or gen alpha whos first exposure to sexuality was hardcore porn. as you mention, bbc whore)
Honestly Lucia or whatever her name is supposed to be doesn't necessarily have to be bad as a main character but not seeing her smile in a SINGLE PHOTO, even the ones where she's with her boyfriend or whatever, is a bad sign, a really bad sign. It's a GTA game, it's supposed to be funny, a parody of stuff. GTA 4 was serious and had a serious plot but it was still a funny ass game. Miami (Vice City) is ripe for jokes and shit to be made so if they make GTA 6 overly serious, or a social commentary or something that will be a fumble of the ages. A really sad fumble too given how long this game has been in the oven, they've had years and years by now to perfect the thing so it better meet the hype. Don't be a doomer but don't give them your full faith either.
Edit: If this game releases and it doesn't let me live out my most vantablack fantasies (swangin a hellcat and hitting innocent people at a takeover while mooning everyone and shooting a draco in the air) Rockstar shall feel thy wrath
That's why I compared VI's Ultimate Edition to IV's Special Edition a few pages back. I'm not against ultimate or collector's editions of video games. VI's "ultimate edition" isn't "ultimate," it's the base game sold for more.
I can see it now as you fire a rocket at them you get the insta mission failed screen. If they don't want gay people getting attacked don't put them in the game seems simple yea?
Why the fuck is it that every time any piece of news about this game gets released, a bunch of niggers have to run in here and make 20 fucking comments calling anyone discussing it [that isn't just dismissing it instantly as WOKE TRASH GOYSLOP BRO] 'cattle', 'goycattle', 'goyim', 'paypigs', or whatever the fuck? Is it really that important to remind everyone how above it all, enlightened and fucking cool you are?
Frankly, I hate the argument that GTA VI will be "woke" because of how of flimsy their framing of that argument turns to. The common rumor I see is that GTA VI will contain "pride parades" that contain no player interaction. This came from one supposed Brazilian insider with no proof whatsoever.
The only "confirmation" we have of GTA VI leaning towards that political direction is a Bloomberg article by Jason Schieder. The final product hasn't been seen yet of HOW they would go towards being "woke." Everything is just speculation that develops into blind outrage with no refutable evidence.
Before anybody responds against this post, realize that I'm not dismissing the possibility that GTA VI would be "woke" in its execution. I'm ignoring the arguments you're creating since you're practically shouting in the void, not positioning any concrete evidence of the final product.
