Goutfest ‘22 (Phil’s 40th bday) - Midlife crisis is fully engaged

In a way there's nothing wrong with earning money playing video games, you could make some really good money from it, it's the saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket". This dude has no skills or experience to fall back on.

I doubt he has anything in his "retirement fund".
His bankruptcy proved that beyond all doubt. He did not have any money in savings at all, much less an actual retirement account.
Then the bank leaks showed nothing changed post discharge: He was spending every last penny he was earning, not even any money set aside to pay his taxes or hire the CPA to prepare them. The only retirement fund he might get is an inheritance from his parents and we all know most of that will end up spent on his gambling problem.

Edit for clarity/to avoid double posting: Phil has almost no liquid assets like cash or stocks but he does have some money tied up in the WAKhando: According to the bankruptcy filings he had about $118,000 in equity on the property. With appreciation + mortgage payments that may have hit $150,000 by now but probably has not reached $200,000.

The hilarious, karmic problem is that Phil has apparently tried to get home equity loans only to get rejected (or approved with terms even he realized were unreasonable) due to his rock-bottom credit based on this video (51min54sec if the timestamp does not work). $150,000 might sound like a big number (it is not, at least when we're talking about retirement funds for someone with Phil's spending habits) but it's utterly meaningless if he has no way to leverage it.
 

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I doubt he has anything in his "retirement fund".
Every time savings are brought up to him he makes an excuse like he has taxes or bills to pay he can't put anything away right now. Phil lives in the now, not the later. He can't plan ahead. If he did he could've easily been a multimillionaire and have somewhere close to the same net worth as similar people on the platform who have been there a while. A lot of people got rich off of YouTube content from Phil's generation and while they all mostly moved on with things they are by no means financially poor. He can't even save a dollar a day he has to spend immediately.

It's something I think he's been doing since he first started making money as an independent adult, which is fucking bizarre considering he lived with his parents well into his twenties and had little in the form for expenses outside of gas, maybe rent, and buying his own food.

It really shouldn't be surprising though, if that statistic about more than half Americans not having more than a few hundred in savings is anything to go by though. Obviously no one normal is totally financially stable on average but you should always have at least a few thousand spread across savings and emergency funds.
 
The last time Phil ever brought up having a savings account that I could find was when he was making the big youtube bucks back in Connecticut and he used that money in his saving account (presumably all of it, because I'll say why later) to help him move all his shit across the country, from memory he didn't do the cheaper alternative by selling most of his shit in his condominium and buying new stuff in Washington.

He also did have to take out a line of credit any way after this, as that move back then was too expensive for him apparently, and he had virtually no savings. It seems to me he thought that he would be fine coasting through life if he was making the same kind of money he always was so he could eventually start a savings account again at some point, but his line of thinking never changed about how much he should spend in order to satrisfy his desires in life, his income started to dip or fluctuate over the years, so he used credit cards, loans and aggressively begging tactics on order to get himself over the debt line, but obviously the bankruptcy happened so we know that didn't last.

He then said after he got kicked out of the twitch partner program that he was hoping to start a savings account, so he could eventually save up and use it for things like going on that eventual honeymoon with his soul mate, the thing is for a time he was pretty much making a little more on YouTube compared to Twitch when he decided to dip for maybe two months I think? I'm not sure if he still is now as I haven't been keeping track of the income thread, but it's not unlike he isn't capable even now of starting to set aside income in order to use it for emergencies, like a rainy day find.

But just like he had no idea about the proper defention of a rainy day fund, he doesn't really seem to care about withholding his money for anything, and has stuck with this pay as you go type mentality, you can't really live like that unless Phil plans to keep working like this for the rest of his living days, which isn't feasible.

Guarantee you he's hoping to upload as much of garbage content to his channel to soak up as much YouTube ad revenue as possible to act as "supplementary income", but he's not going to save any of it, it will all go to "bills and back taxes" and he will still be streaming himself anyway in a decade because if it hasn't hit him that he seriously needs to have some sort of long term savings plan, it won't ever will.
 
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It's something I think he's been doing since he first started making money as an independent adult, which is fucking bizarre considering he lived with his parents well into his twenties and had little in the form for expenses outside of gas, maybe rent, and buying his own food.
There are two things which probably explain it.

First, his white collar income was probably never that high: Even if you believe his claims to have worked at Wells-Fargo he must have resigned at some point to take a sales job with Best Buy because he was fired from there for cause and appealed it to the state Labor Department (ruling is here). Then he took a job working the phones at Helicopter Support before getting transferred multiple times for reasons he has never explained. As a layperson I suspect these jobs paid fairly little because they all sound like something a high school graduate could do with fairly little on the job training. Maybe he really did work at Wells-Fargo, maybe he eventually got transferred to a job that needed more education, but there was probably a time in the ~5 years between graduation and buying the Connectikhando when he was making very low wages.

Second, he was still spending a large amount on FGC stuff. He was able to attend so many FGC tourneys because he put them all on credit cards and we all know how poorly he understands compound interest or self restraint. He was probably paying a few hundred, maybe a thousand, every month without really reducing the principal. Then at the same time, he was buying up FGC action figures as well as other vidya collectibles like the Portal gun. Those aren't cheap.

It really shouldn't be surprising though, if that statistic about more than half Americans not having more than a few hundred in savings is anything to go by though. Obviously no one normal is totally financially stable on average but you should always have at least a few thousand spread across savings and emergency funds.
Yeah but Phil was in a position to NOT wind up in that 50 percent and squandered it: He blew any chance at a decent-paying job thanks to his attitude and the spending on FGC stuff is 100% him. Living paycheck to paycheck isn't that weird but that's normally because of life circumstances that did not apply to Phil or did not need to apply to him. When I think of people in that category I think of working parents, people in low-skilled jobs, and people still in university not bankers with near zero debt.

The last time Phil ever brought up having a savings account that I could find was when he was making the big youtube bucks back in Connecticut and he used that money in his saving account (presumably all of it, because I'll say why later) to help him move all his shit across, from memory he didn't do the cheaper alternative by selling most of his shit in his condominium and buying new stuff in Washington.

He also did have to take out a line of credit any way after this, as that move back then was too expensive for him apparently, and he had virtually no savings. It seems to me he thought that he would be fine coasting through life if he was making the same kind of money he always was so he could eventually start a savings account again, but his line of thinking never changed about how much he should spend in order to satrisfy his desires, his income started to dip or fluctuate over the years, so he used credit cards, loans and aggressively begging tactics on order to get himself over the debt line, but obviously the bankruptcy happened so we know that didn't last.

He then said after he got kicked out of the twitch partner program that he was hoping to start a savings account, so he could eventually save up and use it for things like going on that eventual honeymoon with his soul mate, the thing is for a time he was pretty much making a little more on YouTube compared to Twitch when he decided to dip for maybe two months I think? I'm not sure if he still is now as I haven't been keeping track of the income thread, but it's not unlike he isn't capable of starting to set aside income in order to use it for emergencies, like a rainy day find.
He liquidated everything for the move including his 401-k (retirement account). His down payment on the condo was only $13,250 and I believe he mentions putting some of the moving/furnishing expenses on credit cards which..... yikes. I have no idea how he could have been making as much as he was and have so little to show for it.

As for why the savings accounts never happened, it's because Phil is Mr. Instant Gratification. I can't prove it but I suspect the reason he had money lying around in the early 2010s was because he'd run out of other ways to spend it. Even buying the Wakhando might have been that compulsion to spend combined with an inability to think of other outlets. When his income started to dip, he couldn't bear to part with his creature comforts, so savings were the first thing to be cut. Living with Leanna could not have helped, she was high maintenance and likely insisted on going into Seattle much more than he wanted.
 
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As a layperson I suspect these jobs paid fairly little because they all sound like something a high school graduate could do with fairly little on the job training.
Even then he was living at home. He should have been able to get at least a few dollars from every paycheck into savings.
we all know how poorly he understands compound interest or self restraint. He was probably paying a few hundred, maybe a thousand, every month without really reducing the principal.
It doesn't help that likely up to now he pays the bare minimum on payments for said cards. Pretty much every financial advisor will tell you that is doing nothing to end credit card debt.
Yeah but Phil was in a position to NOT wind up in that 50 percent and squandered it: He blew any chance at a decent-paying job thanks to his attitude and the spending on FGC stuff is 100% him. Living paycheck to paycheck isn't that weird but that's normally because of life circumstances that did not apply to Phil or did not need to apply to him.
I've seen it said in the main thread somewhere but Phil strikes me as someone who would have thrived in middle management. He is the perfect mix of blunt asshole and desire for control. Lucky for all potential wage slaves his ego needs constantly sated and he lacks the intelligence despite his business degree to organize any store or warehouse.
 
I'm waiting for first big health crisis he's gotten off more or less unscathed from abusing his body and I doubt their will be anything that kills him instantly. However like many who abuse their bodies he has doomed himself to needless pain and suffering.
 
The craziest thing about Phil fiscally is just how badly he fucked up. I'm lucky enough that I can keep a couple grand in savings without it having to effect my QOL.

It's not surprising that Phil wastes money, it's not surprising that he doesn't have savings (though he should be putting away for retirement), the most surprising shit is that he has absolutely nothing to show for it. I don't like saving either. I have a retirement fund so i'd rather tradeoff saving my checks for experiences. I frequently travel with my gf and family and I'm able to help the fam out when they need it. I wouldn't blame Phil if he traveled like he used to with Liana, hell I wouldn't even blame him if he spent all his money on FGC shit out of a love for the community. It's just insane that after all these years, at least a million dollars later, all he has is a bad financial decision and some trips with Leanna.

This dude had it all. He could have either lived the life or made sure he was financially secure for the rest of his waking days. Instead it all disappears in gacha and fast food. If he didn't intentionally ignore or fuck over everyone who tried to help him it'd be sad
 
This dude had it all. He could have either lived the life or made sure he was financially secure for the rest of his waking days. Instead it all disappears in gacha and fast food. If he didn't intentionally ignore or fuck over everyone who tried to help him it'd be sad
Imho the only thing Phil did right when the big bucks came rolling in was to pay of his debt he collected during his highlight (4th place in EVO) But the rest? Fuck me sideways if I had made that money the majority would now collecting dust in a bank account or invested in some stocks. Plus he always complains that he doesn't have the money to do the same other streamers do. He HAD the money but wasted it on gimmicks instead investing it in stuff like Project 7 (paying all not only Rambo). Heck this series might have been the legacy but it fell apart due to him. Now he is just "the guy". and "the guy" turns 40 on Wednesday. For him it is the bash where he celebrates his assumed greatness and expects to be showered with money while he stuffs his face with fast food and cake. For us farmers it is Wednesday
 
I'm waiting for first big health crisis he's gotten off more or less unscathed from abusing his body and I doubt their will be anything that kills him instantly. However like many who abuse their bodies he has doomed himself to needless pain and suffering.
Believe me it's coming. The state his body is in he should consider himself lucky he hasn't had a major health issue yet.
 
Imho the only thing Phil did right when the big bucks came rolling in was to pay of his debt he collected during his highlight (4th place in EVO) But the rest? Fuck me sideways if I had made that money the majority would now collecting dust in a bank account or invested in some stocks. Plus he always complains that he doesn't have the money to do the same other streamers do. He HAD the money but wasted it on gimmicks instead investing it in stuff like Project 7 (paying all not only Rambo). Heck this series might have been the legacy but it fell apart due to him. Now he is just "the guy". and "the guy" turns 40 on Wednesday. For him it is the bash where he celebrates his assumed greatness and expects to be showered with money while he stuffs his face with fast food and cake. For us farmers it is Wednesday
The crazy shit is, I fucking swear, that if Phil would be honest, not only about the gacha but how much he makes, he could restart his entire legacy. I fucking promise you if this dude was honest and pulled a Jim Sterling and started talking about how WWE Champions mindfucked him with its predatory gambling bullshit and he'd get a fuckload of good will. He could be a testament to how it can even fuck over people who are well off and make you feel like you need to craft these elaborate excuses etc.

It'll never happen but that's where his redemption is.
 
Not a day over 70
C'mon. He looks 50 at most. Stop being so such a negative detractor. If you had all the smarty brains like Philburt here you'd know that this is exactly what a mature person with mature emotions looks like. Gawd! You detractors are so stuuupid d00d!

But yeah, he's not aging well.
 
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Ah dude… what the fu
 
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