Opinion Get ready — fiscal disaster is only 20 years away - A new study says, unless something changes, we have 2 decades until the nation’s debt collapses the economy

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By Jay Evensen

What will people say in Washington on that day, whether it’s in 2043 or some time sooner, when it becomes clear that nothing — not cuts to programs or hikes in taxes or bloviating political speeches at podiums — will keep the American economy from collapsing because the nation is unable to pay its debts?

Will it become clear, then, that the budget showdowns of 2023, including the one looming on Nov. 17, were little more than ridiculous fights over discretionary spending that did nothing serious to postpone the day of reckoning? Will they view with shame the large spending programs of the early ’20s, from pandemic relief to college loan forgiveness, as having hastened disaster?

Will the American people turn on leaders who, for the entire 21st century, have fiddled like a symphony of Neros as the flames came ever closer? How will people continue when continuing resolutions are useless?

If you have wondered just how much debt the nation can absorb before the walls come tumbling down, the University of Pennsylvania’s Penn Wharton Budget Model now has an educated answer. About 200% of the nation’s economic output, or GDP, will do it. And we’ve got about 20 years, probably less, until then.

That timeline assumes a lot of things, such as the United States continuing its current policies and the economy continuing along in its current favorable conditions. Those conditions rely on investors continuing to have confidence in the nation’s ability to pay its debts.

Confidence is a fickle thing. We got a small taste of that last year when Silicon Valley Bank in California failed. The government stepped in quickly to bail out depositors and reassure a public that otherwise might have been a step away from causing runs on other banks.

But once investors begin to believe the U.S. is incapable of paying its debts, “no amount of future tax increases or spending cuts could avoid the government defaulting on its debt whether explicitly or implicitly,” a Wharton brief authored last month by Jagadeesh Gokhale and Kent Smetters, said. They added, “Unlike technical defaults where payments are merely delayed, this default would be much larger and would reverberate across the U.S. and world economies.”

Investors aren’t stupid. They can see the nation’s trajectory, and they will remain confident only as long as they believe there is a chance politicians will do something to change it.

As the Wharton brief said, “... current fiscal policy is not sustainable and forward-looking financial markets know it …”

Meanwhile, it should go without saying, but Wharton’s models demonstrate that “... the increase in debt ‘crowds out’ private capital formation, which lowers GDP growth and the size of tax bases.” The more debt the nation gathers, the less effective tax increases are in raising funds. “In effect, the economy collapses under the sheer weight of government debt.”

What to do about this?

The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget recommends convening a bipartisan commission to come up with solutions. That’s not a novel approach. House Republicans are advocating a version of that. Utah Sen. Mitt Romney has such a plan, as well.

The nation even tried it once, using a commission President Barack Obama convened back in 2010. Known as the Simpson-Bowles commission, it came up with reasonable recommendations for a combination of cuts and tax hikes that was immediately dismissed by all sides.

Too bad, because that probably would have kept the nation from its current mess.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Treasury reports that, as of October, interest alone on the national debt has cost $659 billion this year. This, The Washington Post said, is among the nation’s biggest annual expenditures. It’s almost as large as what Washington spent on the military last year.

The Wharton brief says the current debt is about 98% of gross domestic product, or GDP. That’s a figure that does not include the $6.8 trillion the government owes itself for accounting purposes.

Will today’s politicians, despite the unreasonable wings in each party, come together and signal to markets that they do indeed have the will to avoid this disaster? Will the American people begin to demand it?

That will take some courage at a time when the fiscal sun, at least in regard to unemployment, is still shining. It will take an ability to imagine how we’ll all and feel on the not-so-distant day of reckoning.
 
Fuck, anybody who was bothering to do any research at all into this 20 years ago (yeah I know) realized that everything was fucking unsustainable. It's not just the money printers going brrrrrrrr 24/7/366, it's the fact that the easy to use planetary resources are pretty much fucking gone and the only way to keep civilization going is massive gargantuan mines that are environmental shitholes that kill the locals (of course, we're talking about Worst Werld so few people in Best Werld give a shit or even know about it) which are then processed using more massive environmental destruction.

Then it ends up in shit like a $120k electric car that is not only slightly better made than a fucking Yugo but which is basically a napalm bomb on wheels if one of the little cells in the gigantic battery under the front seats (bc the battery is so fucking massive that it can't be put under the hood) gets too hot and thus initiates thermal runaway that keeps the car burning for a week.

And of course the whole shitshow is mandated by the govt which then lies about how "green" it all is. Debt, what the fuck do you mean, oh THAT, never mind, look at the car! Right now everything is a smokescreen/scam meant to obscure the gigantic granite mountain that capitalist civilization is about to crash into at 200 mph.

Learn to produce your own food or eat your electric car. Full stop.

The only thing the US FRN "dollar" has going for it is that everybody in the world is stuffed so full of it that they have to play along. Once the investor class has had enough, everybody will race for the exits at once and suddenly there won't be any more food or fuel or anything.

It almost happened in September 2008, the world was fleeing mutual funds and we were within 12 hours of the fucking END. The top guys including Presidente Dubya and Helicopter Ben were sitting in the Oval Office saying "how the fuck are we gonna feed 300 million people starting tomorrow after the FRN goes to shit?" The vidya clips have likely been scrubbed from Youtube, but you might be able to find a copy somewhere.

Fuck, right on the $1 bill it says the only thing backing it is faith and credit (aka the national credit line, aka the belief that the country will keep paying its debts). It also says that the $1 is "legal tender for all debts". Nobody actually reads their own fucking money.
 
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