Disaster Germany passes bill phasing out oil and gas heating systems - Its okay if the heating system can be converted to hydrogen 😂

Germany’s lower house of parliament passed a bill on Friday on phasing out oil and gas heating systems after months of debates. Still, the watered-down bill means the sector’s 2030 climate goal cannot be reached, the economy ministry said.​

Under the bill, part of Germany’s drive to become climate neutral by 2045, heating systems installed in new developments and in old buildings located in areas with a municipal heating plan will have to run on 65% renewable energy.

Gas heaters may still be installed from next year if they can be converted to hydrogen, including in new buildings if they are not part of new developments.

Some 399 parliamentarians voted in favor, 275 opposed, and five abstained.

The government will subsidize the switch with money from its Climate And Transformation Fund, with the goal of cutting emissions in Germany’s building sector by 2030. The sector was responsible for 112 million tonnes of greenhouse gases, or 15% of Germany’s total emissions in 2022.

The economy ministry acknowledged that watering down the bill’s original draft, which would have imposed the green switch much earlier, would mean Germany won’t reach its emissions goal in the sector by 2030.

https://tvpworld.com/72586975/germany-passes-bill-phasing-out-oil-and-gas-heating-systems

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/qqq7Q

 

[Kerr Avon]

It's what they get for not snuffing Ursula von der Leyen

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Well.. They better hope they have mild winters from here on out. Because anything less than a chill and a lot of people are freezing to death.

Don't forget that states and the political elite are hoping to push this over here. Which is orders of magnitude for dangerous and INSANE with our winters. It was thins issue in fact that convinced me fully, that green and sustainability were wholly divorced from even basic calculations or planning. It's all about wishful thinking and no more. Some of it won't even work on a basic fundamental level and fail instantly!

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

No doubt the Krauts will be pushing for heat pumps. Now I'm not anti-heat pump (I have one myself), but they start to lose their effectiveness when the outdoor temperature falls below freezing (0C). The colder it gets, the less effective at heating it is due to the heat pump needing to defrost itself more often and for longer.

Fun fact: Germany is cold in winter, and sub-0C temperatures are a common occurrence.

Sorry to be off topic. How are they for noise in winter? I know they have strict noise rules which cover them and wind turbines where I am.

 

[Otterly]

They want this here too. Heating oil is to be phased out. But many rural properties here need heating oil - they are not on a gas line and aren’t set up for electric heating. Oil is the best way to do it. They want us all to have heat pumps, despite the fact that most homes can’t be retrofitted with them and they’re useless in the cold, noisy, bulky and don’t heat very well

 

[Pee Cola]

Sorry to be off topic. How are they for noise in winter? I know they have strict noise rules which cover them and wind turbines where I am.

It depends on how hard the heat pump has to work, but I barely notice it running unless I'm sitting in the room that's next to the outdoor unit and it's running at full power.

That said, a whole bunch of heat pumps running at full speed in a typical British or European neighbourhood would add to the ambient noise of the surrounding area, though if it's a built up area near a high street or a motorway, most people probably wouldn't notice.

 

[ZazietheBeast]

Meanwhile, the rich fucks and the assholes who pushed this get to keep their gas and oil systems. They really are trying to provoke a war down there...

 

[get_ur_gamon]

THE SAME GOVERNMENT THAT JUST REOPENED SHITLOADS OF COAL BURNING POWER STATIONS???????

For fuck sake. Why do greens hate nuclear so much. I assume the Simpsons have done more damage to the reputation of nuclear power than fucking chernobyl.

 

[Spit bucket]

THE SAME GOVERNMENT THAT JUST REOPENED SHITLOADS OF COAL BURNING POWER STATIONS???????

For fuck sake. Why do greens hate nuclear so much. I assume the Simpsons have done more damage to the reputation of nuclear power than fucking chernobyl.

That and this book written by some raggedy old cunt are why they hate nuclear soo much.