Generation Z - Is there something different about this generation?

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-4ZURE- dijo:
I am going to say no to this.
The left shot themselves in the foot big time and the effects will last awhile until a likely inevitable party Switch in roughly 20-30 years. Joe is not getting any young people whatsoever, even the super woke are throwing tantrums over him on TikTok. Gen Z is being raised on YouTube as the primary entertainment, and guess what, it is pretty much full Republican. All the liberals of 2013 got smoked out upon Trump’s presidency, either they switched sides like Laci Green, or they are becoming irrelevant jokes like the Young Turks. The saving grace of the Left was breadtube, but apparently their voices being into incest really spooked people away. I can say that I have seen more of my Gen take from Shapiro than a leftist, which is not that hard to believe when he got on PewDiePie.

Even looking on TikTok, there are a good amount of young conservatives. I constantly see TikTok users post things against the left. It ranges from women jokes to racist jokes, to straight up debate.


I would be surprised if this does not place the Gen farther right. Just seeing how the woke left cannot handle the simp culture backlash, really sets apart the gens.

While Gen Z is very left in some groups, it seems a grand bulk of the culture will be brought up and apart of republican movements. The Gen is similar to X, it is essentially a reactionary Gen to the radicals of the previous. The difference will be if we can keep our morals straight should the parties change.
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This as many posts here read more as projection and wishful thinking than an honest attempt to look at whats going on.

As i said, Trump might win again but is as far as the pendulum will swing to the right, Trump could not even deliver in his more right-wingy promises and even if Republicans win 10 candidates in a row it will not change the ultimate outcome and what conservatives in 2020 stand for and how they do policy and propaganda would labeled them leftists 20 years ago.

The morals of zoomers are informed by trending topics, intersectional youtubers doing critical theory analysis of cartoons, and discords and ibs full of fetish porn, this idea of them being uber paladins of modesty and values is insane and funny to me. Its only a very small minority of contrarians who are banding up to own the sjws, and those are probably degenerates on their own right, conservative boomers depressingly hold on to insular zoomers as their last bastion of hope but when zoomers politicians and ceos replace the older generation you will see them for what they truly are. Think a thousand new AOCs.

-4ZURE- dijo:
I think going further, how do you think the simp war, that Gen Z is the biggest voice in, will go down? A bunch of people against putting women on pedestals and calling for more modest dress.
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Biggest voices? zoomers are by far the biggest offenders. 9 out of 10 zoomers are either onlyfans thots or their simps but the one weeb "im not like other zoomers" kid is the biggest voice of upstanding dress codes and tradition? that is the silent majority? come on, this is a dellusional take, zoomer social media is simp ridden, they are the ones that made it into a phenomenom in the first place. Neither gen x nor millenials were this level of sex (or lack of) obssesed.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
As i said, Trump might win again but is as far as the pendulum will swing to the right, Trump could not even deliver in his more right-wingy promises and even if Republicans win 10 candidates in a row it will not change the ultimate outcome and what conservatives in 2020 stand for and how they do policy and propaganda would labeled them leftists 20 years ago.
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This pretty much explains it all. Should I guess that you want to go back to the more religious right that had a stronghold prior to the age of wokeness? Here’s the thing, I do not believe anyone on here wants the right to really fall back, most on here are centrists just using the party to combat the more radicalized side. In the past, the right had to change to what was left years prior, as fundamentalism makes them behind, so the whole argument is something that already happens. Since Trump, the goal is to keep things centered, move the pendulum so that the generation is centrist and will be centrist 20 years later rather than radical left.

What it means to be right has changed since Donald. This is why you see a lot of old-school conservatives picking Joe, such as Bush. Donald pretty much hijacked the party and since the Left has been battling on wether or not to go full commie or be the establishment status quo. I think we need to establish the the right of 2016-... and the early 2010s/2000s are two very different rights.

LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
Biggest voices? zoomers are by far the biggest offenders. 9 out of 10 zoomers are either onlyfans thots or their simps but the one weeb "im not like other zoomers" kid is the biggest voice of upstanding dress codes and tradition? that is the silent majority? come on, this is a dellusional take, zoomer social media is simp ridden, they are the ones that made it into a phenomenom in the first place. Neither gen x nor millenials were this level of sex (or lack of) obssesed.
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Most Zoomers are college or younger, where do they get the money to pay for OnlyFans? I think @Syaoran Li put it best. The generation is split into two parts, signified by 9/11. The 90s Zoomers seem to be the e-girls judging by Belle Delphine. When you get into the younger part of the generation, Simp has become a common word that they use to mock people with. The people paying for OnlyFans are likely Millennials and Gen X. I have no idea how you can claim that those gens were not as sex obsessed on Kiwi Farms, they are the gens riddled with the creepy lol cows and likely r/niceguys users. Most of Gen Z is way to young to be the pilots of such things.

LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
The morals of zoomers are informed by trending topics, intersectional youtubers doing critical theory analysis of cartoons, and discords and ibs full of fetish porn, this idea of them being uber paladins of modesty and values is insane and funny to me. Its only a very small minority of contrarians who are banding up to own the sjws, and those are probably degenerates on their own right, conservative boomers depressingly hold on to insular zoomers as their last bastion of hope but when zoomers politicians and ceos replace the older generation you will see them for what they truly are. Think a thousand new AOCs.
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I think you overestimate how popular Discord really is and the demographic for it. Most Gen Z seem to harbor around YouTube and Tik Tok, along with Snapchat and Instagram. Discord has never really been a big thing and was always in that weirder individual website category like Tumblr, except likely used less so. It is more popular with older generations, mostly streamers. I cannot recall me or anyone I know using it.

Now to look at the fetish claim, I think you are going to see a move away from the previous generations. I remember when Tik Tok first started and the big thing for Gen Z was to remove all furries from the platform. The people peddling fetishes are super old on those platforms and are met with lots of disgust as a result to which they whine about how they are for adults not children like Gen Z. I think fetishes became too much of a mainstream thing for Gen Z to really grapple onto. Those things are meant to be hidden, not thrusted out into the public, and Gen Z knows that.

Dom Cruise dijo:
I don't think zoomers will be as conservative as some people think, but I do think they won't be quite as crazy as millennials.

I can see zoomers becoming something like Generation X 2.0.
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This.
Gen Z is likely apolitical like Gen X, or at least centrist. Both most likely would not care had the world not exploded into craziness in 2016 and beyond. Millennials and the news that backs them have really set the two gens off for being either for or against the blue wave.
 
-4ZURE- dijo:
This pretty much explains it all. Should I guess that you want to go back to the more religious right that had a stronghold prior to the age of wokeness? Here’s the thing, I do not believe anyone on here wants the right to really fall back, most on here are centrists just using the party to combat the more radicalized side. In the past, the right had to change to what was left years prior, as fundamentalism makes them behind, so the whole argument is something that already happens. Since Trump, the goal is to keep things centered, move the pendulum so that the generation is centrist and will be centrist 20 years later rather than radical left.

What it means to be right has changed since Donald. This is why you see a lot of old-school conservatives picking Joe, such as Bush. Donald pretty much hijacked the party and since the Left has been battling on wether or not to go full commie or be the establishment status quo. I think we need to establish the the right of 2016-... and the early 2010s/2000s are two very different rights.


Most Zoomers are college or younger, where do they get the money to pay for OnlyFans? I think @Syaoran Li put it best. The generation is split into two parts, signified by 9/11. The 90s Zoomers seem to be the e-girls judging by Belle Delphine. When you get into the younger part of the generation, Simp has become a common word that they use to mock people with. The people paying for OnlyFans are likely Millennials and Gen X. I have no idea how you can claim that those gens were not as sex obsessed on Kiwi Farms, they are the gens riddled with the creepy lol cows and likely r/niceguys users. Most of Gen Z is way to young to be the pilots of such things.


I think you overestimate how popular Discord really is and the demographic for it. Most Gen Z seem to harbor around YouTube and Tik Tok, along with Snapchat and Instagram. Discord has never really been a big thing and was always in that weirder individual website category like Tumblr, except likely used less so. It is more popular with older generations, mostly streamers. I cannot recall me or anyone I know using it.

Now to look at the fetish claim, I think you are going to see a move away from the previous generations. I remember when Tik Tok first started and the big thing for Gen Z was to remove all furries from the platform. The people peddling fetishes are super old on those platforms and are met with lots of disgust as a result to which they whine about how they are for adults not children like Gen Z. I think fetishes became too much of a mainstream thing for Gen Z to really grapple onto. Those things are meant to be hidden, not thrusted out into the public, and Gen Z knows that.


This.
Gen Z is likely apolitical like Gen X, or at least centrist. Both most likely would not care had the world not exploded into craziness in 2016 and beyond. Millennials and the news that backs them have really set the two gens off for being either for or against the blue wave.
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You basically proved me right , zoomers are just leftists that want to "own the sjws" and then have exactly the same policies the left is offering, socialism included. Way to go.

The oldest of them are 25 years old btw, they are not just highschool kids, they are most of the thots on twitch and their audience too.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
The oldest of them are 25 years old btw, they are not just highschool kids, they are most of the thots on twitch and their audience too.
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Majority are still high school or younger, not to mention college like I said. Very few are fully functional adults fully independent of family as of now. I would assume that the average subscriber and simp has their own income if they are spending thousands on a girl. Most Gen Z does not have that sort of money, nor are they in a position yet where their only choices are e-girls or single mothers for them to do so. Most simps are clearly older and where unable to get a girl in their younger years, or early 20s. They resort to paying for these women as their means of trying to find a mate.

LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
You basically proved me right , zoomers are just leftists that want to "own the sjws" and then have exactly the same policies the left is offering, socialism included. Way to go.
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What do you want? What does it mean to you, to be a Republican?

You have not set any standards. From what people on this forum have set, Gen Z seems to fit the bill. They are more progressive in terms of LGBT and race issues, but they do not revel in them like the older gen. I would also say that not many are truly socialist either.

I think the only real counter would be Sanders being popular, but he is kinda an anomaly in the political space. Him and Trump seem to intersect a lot in support for whatever reason, as many Trump and Bernie supporters would either agree or seem to switch between the two. What makes it weirder is that when the Dems try to pull a, we will go more leftist, not a lot from Bernie’s camp follows as they go to Trump. His base is super weird, and has many different facets. Some want him because Communism, some think he is the most normal and reliable as he did have some good calls in history and stuff like Joe Ronan’s interview makes him seem more chill and centrist, and some just want him to own the lefts. It does not help that some big anti-SJWs like Shoe seem to promote him. I will admit to falling for the trap myself. I wanted to play a bit centrist and there were some decent arguments, but because SJW YT was not doing its job and digging up on him, I did not know of some of the darker/shady stuff. I think the thing about Sanders is, he was just there at the right time. The dude was a candidate going against Hillary Killton, the Dems acted corrupt and kicked him out which garnered a he is the opposition response, the other candidates were Trump and Biden who can be hard to defend at times, if not atrocious to some. Had he come when actual candidates were going, I think he would have a harder time. Even this election, he seemed to have been defeated quickly. I sort of question the ideologies of his supporters, it seems simple, but really him and Trump have the most complex stream of support I have ever seen as both seem to inhabit both parties to some degree.

I will give you this. There is a chance that Gen Z can go the way you believe, but I do think that many are just confused about the state of affairs. I think with the fall of Bernie and the way Covid is being handled, many will start going more towards Republican ideology. After progressives lost 2 elections, and Bernie pretty much fell in line with the rest of the Dems, I think progressive and more communist ideology will fall as its leader did. Many are not going to go for it as it has betrayed them twice and for some their only real reason for choosing it was the candidate that just seemed a bit better than Trump, Hillary, and Biden. I have seen a good bulk of Gen Z already go against Bernie prior, but I think more will join as he continues to shill, which will kill off what he was going for. As for the rest of the Dems, I doubt Gen Z will do anything to help them, Nancy, Biden, Kamala, they are all seen as terrible. Even AOC is being attacked, and by younger politicians within the Democrat party itself. I would not give up hope in the Gen like you seem to. They seem to be verging on Republican. Bernie was sort of a fluke, just give the Gen a push and I think a good amount will become “red pilled“ if they have not been already.
 
I've noticed one problem with my generation (z) and that is that a lot of them they say they want to do something, but they don't want to put in the work. They'd rather take the easy way out and not go through the difficult parts or try to improve on something. It's going to hurt in the long run.
 
I think Kyle Rittenhouse has become one of the first true faces of core-late zoomers. Now the older core zoomers are hitting adulthood and actually able to be judged on their own, so I imagine we're about to see a ton of other people born in 2002-04 who completely go against the narrative getting widespread attention.
 
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
You basically proved me right , zoomers are just leftists that want to "own the sjws" and then have exactly the same policies the left is offering, socialism included. Way to go.

The oldest of them are 25 years old btw, they are not just highschool kids, they are most of the thots on twitch and their audience too.
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Most definitions would call someone who is 25 in 2020 a Millennial. Some definitions call those born in 1995 a Zoomer.
 
I think Gen Z are a fragmented generation. It was designed to be this way, they are born into a fragmented culture and world. They've never not known the internet and depending on how things progress with covid, the world is about to become more digital than ever before. Relationships have been replaced with hook up culture. If you've ever read 1984, the party promoted porn to replace pursuing real life relationships and sex, and I think that's been in motion for a while now. A lot of people have absolutely no interest in relationships, marriage or children. Instead it's a steady influx of internet, porn, gaming, phone, hook up, phone, gaming, porn. It is very black mirror...and in a world where nature and animals are falling by the wayside. This instant gratification makes people very infantilised, lazy and narcissistic.

I remember feeling a lot of fear about the state of the world as a child and not being able to put my finger on why...there was just a sense of larger dread and doom despite the 'you can be anything!' sentiments that meant well but didn't prepare us for the brutality of the real world.
 
I have to touch on these 'kids' for a moment even though I know this is an old thread. Gen Z's parents are people from this generation

(the central park five. and yes they were fucking guilty)
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Remember, it was Gen X youths that created the crime wave in the 1980's and 1990's. Inner cities became snake pits and the era of failing schools and ''don't go in that neighbor hood or you won't come out alive'' began. Gen X parented Gen Z and handed them down there garbage values. Gen Z teens (think the summer of love 2020) display similar characteristics. Apathy, violence and an affinity for typical nigger behavior even if they're white (look how many of them are wiggers lol).
 
Sweetpeaa dijo:
I have to touch on these 'kids' for a moment even though I know this is an old thread. Gen Z's parents are people from this generation

(the central park five. and yes they were fucking guilty)
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Remember, it was Gen X youths that created the crime wave in the 1980's and 1990's. Inner cities became snake pits and the era of failing schools and ''don't go in that neighbor hood or you won't come out alive'' began. Gen X parented Gen Z and handed them down there garbage values. Gen Z teens (think the summer of love 2020) display similar characteristics. Apathy, violence and an affinity for typical nigger behavior even if they're white (look how many of them are wiggers lol).
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True.

This was the world we grew up in.
 
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