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They really brought in people in penis costumes for all in wtf. (bonus for soy reaction)
 
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They really brought in people in penis costumes for all in wtf. (bonus for soy reaction)

maybe cornette was right about Joey Ryan and his dick spots

Cornette is 100% right about Joey Ryan.

If Vince Russo booked that shit, smarks would hate it. However, because Meltzer likes Joey Ryan, they think it's the greatest shit ever, when in reality, the whole dick thing is just stupid, uncreative, and takes zero talent to pull off. Which is great because Joey Ryan has zero talent. He does nothing but make wrestling look like a joke and makes it impossible to take him (and any show he is on) seriously. Dusty Rhodes of the 80s would've kicked Joey Ryan's ass if he pulled that dick spot shit on his show
 
Cornette is 100% right about Joey Ryan.

If Vince Russo booked that shit, smarks would hate it. However, because Meltzer likes Joey Ryan, they think it's the greatest shit ever, when in reality, the whole dick thing is just stupid, uncreative, and takes zero talent to pull off. Which is great because Joey Ryan has zero talent. He does nothing but make wrestling look like a joke and makes it impossible to take him (and any show he is on) seriously. Dusty Rhodes of the 80s would've kicked Joey Ryan's ass if he pulled that dick spot shit on his show
Well said, 100% agree with this
 
El Santo or Rikidozan
I don't know my Japanese stuff good enough to speculate. Maybe there's power levels you can determine from "Santo beat XX, XX beat Rikidozan, therefore Santo > Rikidozan" or vice versa?

Doubleposting for the latest developments in the current big Ninja Turtle feud
 
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Why is WWE turning Braun heel? He's completely in the right to be upset that the Shield pulled a dick move and stopped his cash-in on RAW a couple weeks ago.

Roman would be great playing a coward heel with a persecution complex who needs his brothers to cover for his inadequacies. This would be what was happening is creative knew how to write a story.

But I'll still keep watching because I like most of the wrestlers involved someone please help me. I have wrestling autism and it's a hell that is inescapable.
 
Why is WWE turning Braun heel? He's completely in the right to be upset that the Shield pulled a dick move and stopped his cash-in on RAW a couple weeks ago.

Roman would be great playing a coward heel with a persecution complex who needs his brothers to cover for his inadequacies. This would be what was happening is creative knew how to write a story.

But I'll still keep watching because I like most of the wrestlers involved someone please help me. I have wrestling autism and it's a hell that is inescapable.

Watch other wrestling.

The guys you like will always only wrestle the same shit-ass boring lolWWE match they always do. They will always only cut the same shit-ass boring lolWWE scripted promo they always do. WWE will always be shit forever. They just got 2 billion dollars for the barely-attended crap they put out every week.

WWE has no incentive to change. Other than HBK selling out to the oil money and wrestling at an upcoming Saudi show.

If you need weekly live wrestling CMLL streams Monday and Tuesday nights on youtube, Fridays on facebook and marca (a website). Make snacks in advance because they usually show off the crowd eating food and it looks really great.

MLW shambled back from the grave a little while back and they've been doing great stuff with a lot of the indie people Impact uses among others, and are running War Games next weekend with LA Park and Pentagon jr having a hardcore match one-on-one in the historic Ft Lauderdale War Memorial Auditorium. Pretty sure they put their weekly show on youtube if you don't get its cable channel, and everything gets streamed on taima tv.

Impact's got basically none of the old TNA crew left outside Josh Matthews who's become a decent enough announcer. They've been delivering a solid wrestling show by most metrics for a while, even if some weeks they're a few base-hits in a row but maybe no home runs. Their weekly show can be gotten legit for free on the app or illegit through the usual places. They also do coproductions with small indies and stream the show live on twitch, they're usually comfy af.

AAA's been their usual crazy "WCW turned up to 11" selves, their weekly show Worldwide is on their youtube, they run live feeds of their tapings (lately weekly-ish, probably going to gear down through the holidays) on Twitch and they've had great video quality.
 
Why is WWE turning Braun heel? He's completely in the right to be upset that the Shield pulled a dick move and stopped his cash-in on RAW a couple weeks ago.

Roman would be great playing a coward heel with a persecution complex who needs his brothers to cover for his inadequacies. This would be what was happening is creative knew how to write a story.

But I'll still keep watching because I like most of the wrestlers involved someone please help me. I have wrestling autism and it's a hell that is inescapable.
Check out lucha underground on Netflix it's a weird cross between wrestling and movie shit. plus Rey Mysterio shows up in season 2.
 
Check out if you have el rey (the channel) or if you really feel like you could buy it on itunes.
iirc it's on the usual watchwrestling type sites too

If you have El Rey it might be in a high number pile of Spanish language channels, that's how mine was back when I had cable.
It's a cool channel. Toho, Shaw Bros, bunch of Euro slashers and westerns. Great promos, good at breaking down why some random trash movie from the 70s is cool because soandso worked on it, hyped their SB stuff on director thisguy and fightguy that guy.
 
I would've loved to see Savage vs Shawn back in 92-93

http://www.pwmania.com/lanny-poffo-on-randy-savages-idea-for-shawn-michaels-feud-in-1993

Lanny Poffo On Randy Savage’s Idea For Shawn Michaels Feud In 1993
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09/09/2018
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Lanny Poffo spoke about an idea that Randy Savage had for a feud with Shawn Michaels in 1993 during the first episode of his Genius Cast podcast (via SportsKeeda). Here is what he had to say:

“I remember he called me up at 2 in the morning… and he said, ‘can you find some breakaway champagne bottles?’ So I said ‘yeah, I can do that’. His plan was to toast to Shawn Michaels’ career, he would pour a drink, they would toast and then they would drink and then Randy would smash the bottle over Shawn Michaels’ head, starting a two-year feud ending in WrestleMania, where Shawn Michaels loses his hair if he loses, and Randy returns to the announcing table if he loses. So what happened? Pat Patterson says, ‘well Randy, we’re having a youth movement and the best thing you can do is to stay on the microphone.’
 
Honestly, at this point, I stay away from main roster WWE and watch virtually everything else I can get my hands on.

NJPW typically features the best main events and presents the show with more of a realistic sports logic most of the time, so title victories and huge losses actually feel like they matter.

NXT is the best thing WWE produces. Its basically 1970s wrestling with new age talent, and it works very well for me. Keep it simple, slow build ups, and do a few big shows a year with the big matches. The TakeOver specials get such glowing reviews because NXT doesn't blow their load week to week and instead take the "small and steady wins the race" approach, which makes for better stories and more satisfying big shows.

Lucha Underground is the exact opposite of NJPW in that it feels more like a scripted televised drama about wrestling with this wacky fictional universe that they've created, and the end result is something immensely entertaining. LU has been a huge source of joy for me as a wrestling fan for the last few years now and the stuff they do is so crazy, it makes me wonder if ideas like The Dungeon of Doom would have worked under Lucha Underground's creative system, lol.

Ring of Honor has been the Indy darling fed for almost the entire time it has been in existence, but the breakout fame garnered by Cody, The Bucks, and the rest of the Bullet Club elite has made ROH feel bigger as a result. The show has also always been a great showcase for fresh new talents, and that has not changed, but in 2018, they feel bigger and more can't miss than they've ever felt. I think part of that is because they kind of got away from trying to make every single match a 5 star classic and focused on creating matches that people want to spend money on, like the recent Cody/Omega showdown from WrestleMania weekend.

Speaking of the ROH guys, All In was one of the most entertaining major shows of the year and felt like a celebration of Independent Wrestling. Cody and The Bucks have a DIY attitude and an entrepreneurial spirit that allowed them to follow through on this massive gamble and it paid off. It didn't go off without a hitch (the main event was clearly a rush job) but the overall effort was exciting, and my hats off to everyone involved.

Heck, even Impact Wrestling, the show formerly known as TNA, the program that should have been dead years ago, has shown signs of creative life in recent months. For the first time in God knows how long, an Impact/TNA PPV was one of the best shows of the year (Slammiversary 2018) and they are better now than they have been since the dark years of the failed Hogan experiment, the last days on SpikeTV, and the uncertainty of the Destination America run and move to PopTV. Hopefully they are on somewhat stable ground now and can become something viable. We'll know more after Bound for Glory if Slammiversary was just a fluke or not.

And there are a ton of streaming services now that offer wrestling. Lucha Underground is on Netflix and Amazon Prime. ROH has their own Streaming Service Honor Club. NJPW has an English streaming site (though be warned, it is organized horribly), and Impact utilizes a streaming service as well. And All In was available through the Fite App and various other sources. And to their credit, The WWE Network is AWESOME for watching old content. Between NWA, ECW, WCW, AWA, and old school WWF (Rock and Wrestling and Attitude Era), there is no shortage of great material I can revisit. Hell, even revisiting the bad stuff is fun! And there are other oddities out there too. Amazon Prime has Dojo Pro available for all members, so check that out if you're so inclined.

And I look at all that, and I just can't see myself digesting the weekly main roster WWE product. The last time I watched, Raw was boring. Smackdown was boring, and the Backlash PPV had people walking out on the main event. Its just a dull and formulaic show that goes against what the fans want (Pushing Roman as top face, and Becky as a heel, just as a few examples. Why torture myself watching 5 hours a week to build towards a PPV I don't care about when I can watch the G1 Climax at the push of a button? Why devote so much time to one show, when show's like Lucha Underground and NXT only ask for an hour a week and leave me wanting to see what happens next? And why subject myself to something I know I'm probably not going to like when the most exciting stuff is happening outside of the WWE's bubble with things like All In making a huge splash and things like Bound for Glory, Ultima Lucha Cuatro, and Wrestle Kingdom 13 all on the horizon? And furthermore, why complain about the current era when WWE gives me the material I did enjoy right at my fingertips with the network? Don't like Roman Reigns? No problem, I'd much rather watch Randy Savage anyway.

It also doesn't help that Football is back and I'd much rather watch that on Sundays and Mondays, and Better Call Saul is more deserving of my viewing time on Mondays.
 
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