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MirrorNoir dijo:
Longstanding urban legend is that Austin had told Vince he would work a reduced schedule and have surgery after WM 2000, but it was predicated on the understanding that Austin would would keep the belt and be presented as world champion until then.

Then Vince, in the fall of 99, got serious about pushing HHH and Austin wouldn't drop the belt to HHH as Vince got upset that he had to use Foley as a middleman and Austin waited right before Survivor Series to tell everyone he was getting surgery now not later, thinking HHH and Rock would flop as top guys and Austin would return a year later, his position as #1 Guy assured.
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I don't buy that because Rock was already established as a top guy before that.

The Hungry African dijo:
Sky Daily was his third wife. Second wife was the tinfoil crackpot and his first wife was some Florida bimbo. Hogan really had terrible taste in women. @Hollywood Hulk Hogan is this the work of the vile Ted DeBiase?
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That was the imposter hired by that slanderous troll Ted Dibiase, brother!

XYZpdq Jr. dijo:
he should've gone to that guy Jimmy Hart and Chavo went to
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Jimmy Hart had a hair transplant?
 
trent dijo:
Bayleys WWE deal is about to expire and she is already backstage at AEW shows regularly.
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It's wild how as soon as she hit 30, her face turned into abuelita. Biggest butterface in the biz now.

Everything else nice tho.


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SmackDown was taped after Raw, giving everyone the 4th of July weekend off. According the spoilers, Cody and Jey have a number one contenders match for the WWE title. Cody wins and he faces Sami on Raw, which just so happens to be in Chicago. Most likely outcome seems to be Cody beating Sami then Punk returning to challenge Cody at SummerSlam.
 
trent dijo:
TKO are going to lose a shit load of their established talent with their lowball contracts.
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Sure they will, but WWE also knows that almost every single wrestler they have is replaceable so it probably won't matter. Every release cycle there's at least one "I thought he was there for life, they're making a HUGE mistake" guy and yet in 3 months time they're mostly forgotten about.

The New Day is a nice recent example of this. We immediately go "How could they get rid of the New Day? Are they insane?" because we have familiarity with them and assumed they'd be there forever, yet when you run the numbers you start asking questions about how valuable they actually are. Sure they make decent money with merchandise, but is it worth having three people on the payroll that have grown stale? Kofi Kingston had multiple shots as the main guy and completely bombed, Xavier Woods is absolutely useless as a solo wrestler and Big E is retired.

So ultimately you're keeping two other guys around to prop up Kofi Kingston who alone is incapable of being 'the guy'. Does it suck if you liked watching The New Day? Sure, but is it a major travesty to lose them when they didn't accept a pay cut? Not really.

AEW is going to find out VERY quickly why WWE offered the pay cut.
 
Blackstar dijo:
Cena's going through another round of hair transplants and has shaved his head before it
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He looks like Cody should visit and give him a weight belt.
trent dijo:
Bayleys WWE deal is about to expire and she is already backstage at AEW shows regularly.
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This would be a big win AEW both in ring and behind the scenes. Tk looks to be moving female talent up from roh and having one more mentor wouldn't hurt.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan dijo:
I don't buy that because Rock was already established as a top guy before that.


That was the imposter hired by that slanderous troll Ted Dibiase, brother!


Jimmy Hart had a hair transplant?
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iirc Chavo, Jimmy Hart, JBL, and maybe somebody else who's a name went to the same guy
 
cypocryphy dijo:
I wonder if the crowd reaction would have been the same if it was Austin vs Hogan.
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Honestly, I think the weight of the match itself happening, the crowd would have been raucous in the beginning at the very least but I think Rock vs Hogan while not the desired match at the time, was the right match in the end. Stylistically the two were a perfect match for each other. Austin wouldn't have had the ability in the acting sense I don't think to respond in an entertaining way to the inevitable "Hulking Up" spot and other moments. Rock had the uncanny ability to seamlessly switch between absolutely dominating an opponent and looking good while doing it or become conflicted on the spot and acknowledge he may be at a disadvantage and play up to that. Kinda like Flair in a sense. Not sure Austin in character could have taken a trademark finger wagging all that seriously and look intimidated like the Rock did. We probably would have gotten an iconic double bird in response though, to play devil's advocate.

Point being, we got the right outcome in the end lol.
 
I don’t see Hogan taking or selling a stone cold stunner all that well at that point in his career tbh.
 
trent dijo:
Apparently Brian Cage turned down a recent offer from WWE because as he put it "they just release people randomly". It makes sense he'd opt for the safety of TK forgetting about him in AEW because he has a couple of kids with the hot Lucha Underground ring announcer girl.

Also, he's roided to the fucking gills so he'd be in bother if WWE started taking that sort of stuff seriously again.
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Given that Tony pays most of his roster six figures to basically just sit at home, I'd prefer to work AEW too.
 
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