General Wrestling Discussion

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

But has the culture really changed? The shit we hear about wrestlers from the past, we didn't know about (much) in real time. What twisted shit the current crop of wrestlers may be up to will we hear about 10-20 years from now. Most wrestlers do not seem like well adjusted people.

Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of shit comes to light about the current generation of wrestlers. The Speaking Out movement showed that they're not much better than the generations before.

They do get into less bar fights, which is due to most of them not going to bars after matches, the fact that no one knows who they are and a lot of them are not legitimately huge or tough guys like they used to be. With rare exception, most guys from the territories until the early 00s could legitimately fuck up most random folks. Even the "smaller" guys from back then, like Martel or Bret Hart, were big dudes compared to the normal population. Compare that to guys like Lio Rush.

I doubt the drug culture has changed much, either. You hear about guys like ADR and Paige doing cocaine and others who become addicted to pain pills despite there being (supposed) testing.

They probably don't get as many groupies as the guys from generations before, but that's mainly due to wrestling being less popular. With that would be less pedophilia, grooming and just sexual degeneracy in general. However, as the Speaking Out movement showed, it still goes on. In martial arts gyms, it's unfortunately not rare that women get groomed. I am sure it's similar in pro wrestling schools and on the indie scene in general.

I'd be surprised if we don't hear about similar shit 20 years down the line. If the rumors are true, AEW after parties are pretty crazy

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

Even the "smaller" guys from back then, like Martel or Bret Hart, were big dudes compared to the normal population

It’s not as far back, but even back in the 90’s you wouldn’t think someone like Billy Gunn was actually as tall as he was, but he was surrounded by Giants.

Granted standing next to a Kane or a Big Show makes most people look small, but it never really clicked until I saw him in AEW standing head and shoulders over some talent.

 

[draggs]

But has the culture really changed? The shit we hear about wrestlers from the past, we didn't know about (much) in real time. What twisted shit the current crop of wrestlers may be up to will we hear about 10-20 years from now. Most wrestlers do not seem like well adjusted people.

I think the difference is we do hear about it in real time, if the wrestlers or the promotion they work for are prominent enough. Look at Paige and ADR, and that was ten years ago now. They fuck off from WWE and go to Meheeco, and we hear everything about them doing drugs and ADR being a piece of shit. Even ten years before that, we probably wouldn't have heard shit. Ten years before that (and more), we definitely wouldn't have heard shit

Now the bingo hall circuit, yeah we don't hear about it and it's as bad as ever I'd expect. But before Sheiky baby and Hacksaw in 1987, wrestlers getting into shit whether they were running high school gyms, GCW, Mid-South, WWF, JCP/WCW, wherever, was maybe a story here or there in a local paper that never hit the wires. And even then for a long time after that, most shit still went under the radar. Until the internet media environment got going, all the drugs and boozing, the ring rats, the starstruck underage female fans, the female talent and other female employees being fair game, the locker room/hotel/bar brawls, all that shit was hushed up and stayed hushed up 99.99% of the time. It's not like that anymore, not all across the entire business

 

[Spyro the Dragon]

Apologies if this was already posted but I just found out about these AI channels that can't pronounce the saying "What WWE" which causes the program to have a stroke and I'm fucking dying

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I think the difference is we do hear about it in real time, if the wrestlers or the promotion they work for are prominent enough. Look at Paige and ADR, and that was ten years ago now. They fuck off from WWE and go to Meheeco, and we hear everything about them doing drugs and ADR being a piece of shit. Even ten years before that, we probably wouldn't have heard shit. Ten years before that (and more), we definitely wouldn't have heard shit

Now the bingo hall circuit, yeah we don't hear about it and it's as bad as ever I'd expect. But before Sheiky baby and Hacksaw in 1987, wrestlers getting into shit whether they were running high school gyms, GCW, Mid-South, WWF, JCP/WCW, wherever, was maybe a story here or there in a local paper that never hit the wires. And even then for a long time after that, most shit still went under the radar. Until the internet media environment got going, all the drugs and boozing, the ring rats, the starstruck underage female fans, the female talent and other female employees being fair game, the locker room/hotel/bar brawls, all that shit was hushed up and stayed hushed up 99.99% of the time. It's not like that anymore, not all across the entire business

Yeah, I'd imagine that smartphones and social media do make it less common, but I am sure it still goes on. On the bingo hall circuit, absolutely, but I am sure that stuff still happens in the bigger promotions, especially between wrestlers. I wouldn't be shocked at all to find out wrestlers were still doing cocaine and trading it for favors from female talent. I also wouldn't be surprised if grooming and other sex pest behavior goes on between performers and fans, although certainly not as commonly. Just because we don't hear about it and hear a few things doesn't mean that we hear about all of it.

For example, if it wasn't for Kylie Rae's having a mental breakdown over it, we probably wouldn't have heard about Jericho using the AEW women's roster as a potential sexual playground during the after parties

 

[Kermit the Frog]

For example, if it wasn't for Kylie Rae's having a mental breakdown over it, we probably wouldn't have heard about Jericho using the AEW women's roster as a potential sexual playground during the after parties

Imagine being desperate enough to fuck Jeribloat to help your career out. How grim. Might as well retire.

 

[draggs]

Yeah, I'd imagine that smartphones and social media do make it less common, but I am sure it still goes on. On the bingo hall circuit, absolutely, but I am sure that stuff still happens in the bigger promotions, especially between wrestlers. I wouldn't be shocked at all to find out wrestlers were still doing cocaine and trading it for favors from female talent. I also wouldn't be surprised if grooming and other sex pest behavior goes on between performers and fans, although certainly not as commonly. Just because we don't hear about it and hear a few things doesn't mean that we hear about all of it.

For example, if it wasn't for Kylie Rae's having a mental breakdown over it, we probably wouldn't have heard about Jericho using the AEW women's roster as a potential sexual playground during the after parties

Yeah I was gonna say it's probably more between wrestlers than wrestlers and fans these days in the big promotions. No one ever hears everything about anything, but I do think it's a lot better than the days of Lawler abusing 14 year olds, Flair stylin and profilin on anything with a pussy and a pulse, John Laurinitis' hot tub, and all the rest

 

[MirrorNoir]

He was hugely over in his feud for the belt, and Verne was an idiot not to at least give it a chance to play out before turning him. The fans were sick to death of heel champions, and having Hennig turn heel and align with Bockwinkle to win the match killed a potentially big moment and it soured the run.

Hennig had shown over and over that he was good enough to win if he didn't get screwed, so having him cheat to win was just asinine when the fans were sick to death of champions who had to cheat to win.

Even if he felt Curt HAD TO turn, at least give the fans that night to celebrate. That would have made the turn an even bigger moment. Doing it the way it was done was Russo-level booking malpractice.

Anyone know how one could watch 1986/1987 AWA wrestling online free? Woukd be interest in seeing this storyline and Henning as a main event guy instead of a perenial underachievibg midcard guy.

 

[Would]

Wrestlers stopped grooming teen ring rats at bars and moved to grooming them on Discord instead.

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

I think the difference is we do hear about it in real time, if the wrestlers or the promotion they work for are prominent enough. Look at Paige and ADR, and that was ten years ago now. They fuck off from WWE and go to Meheeco, and we hear everything about them doing drugs and ADR being a piece of shit. Even ten years before that, we probably wouldn't have heard shit. Ten years before that (and more), we definitely wouldn't have heard shit

Now the bingo hall circuit, yeah we don't hear about it and it's as bad as ever I'd expect. But before Sheiky baby and Hacksaw in 1987, wrestlers getting into shit whether they were running high school gyms, GCW, Mid-South, WWF, JCP/WCW, wherever, was maybe a story here or there in a local paper that never hit the wires. And even then for a long time after that, most shit still went under the radar. Until the internet media environment got going, all the drugs and boozing, the ring rats, the starstruck underage female fans, the female talent and other female employees being fair game, the locker room/hotel/bar brawls, all that shit was hushed up and stayed hushed up 99.99% of the time. It's not like that anymore, not all across the entire business

I still wouldn't be surprised if most of the depraved stuff wrestlers get up to remain unreported despite the internet and social media.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Apologies if this was already posted but I just found out about these AI channels that can't pronounce the saying "What WWE" which causes the program to have a stroke and I'm fucking dying

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xgNRLPxwRNg

the clicker is doing a great job of impersonating Torretes Goldust

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Wrestlers stopped grooming teen ring rats at bars and moved to grooming them on Discord instead.

That'd be my guess, too. Well, among indie wrestlers. Local indies have some die-hard fans and some of them will be teenage girls, and the more degenerate of the wrestlers will take advantage of that, unfortunately (both at shows and probably on discord, facebook groups, etc). We heard stories about that happening during Speaking Out

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

Apologies if this was already posted but I just found out about these AI channels that can't pronounce the saying "What WWE" which causes the program to have a stroke and I'm fucking dying

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xgNRLPxwRNg

I like how it tries to sound like a person despite getting stuck, so it sounds like a guy getting ninety-two'd while recording.

 

[El Chacal De La Trompeta]

funnily enough one of the latests sex pest was noted women respected cm punk

 

[Hamburger Detractor]

Imagine being desperate enough to fuck Jeribloat to help your career out. How grim. Might as well retire.

She did...then she came back. Then she started no showing a bunch of places and took 2 or 3 "mental health breaks" then came back. Then got knocked up, then came back. I think her last "retirement" after quitting the WWEID program as their champion is still holding up for now, but turns out that was another pregnancy so I'm sure her indie shitter boyfriend/husband is already talking her into wrestling again because one of them has to make money.

Who knew Jericho's dick was so traumatizing? Then again I don't think any of the other chicks he's been rumored to be with ever had breakdowns. Maybe it was all that marijuana she ate, which was another reason for one of her retirements, going to rehab for weed and getting triggered being around it at shows caused another break. I think maybe that bitch was just crazy.

 

[I am Jack's dead arm]

Anyone know how one could watch 1986/1987 AWA wrestling online free? Woukd be interest in seeing this storyline and Henning as a main event guy instead of a perenial underachievibg midcard guy.

I did a quick search on YouTube and the channel Pro Wrestling Vault seems to have a lot of full episodes from those years.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

She did...then she came back. Then she started no showing a bunch of places and took 2 or 3 "mental health breaks" then came back. Then got knocked up, then came back. I think her last "retirement" after quitting the WWEID program as their champion is still holding up for now, but turns out that was another pregnancy so I'm sure her indie shitter boyfriend/husband is already talking her into wrestling again because one of them has to make money.

Who knew Jericho's dick was so traumatizing? Then again I don't think any of the other chicks he's been rumored to be with ever had breakdowns. Maybe it was all that marijuana she ate, which was another reason for one of her retirements, going to rehab for weed and getting triggered being around it at shows caused another break. I think maybe that bitch was just crazy.

If I remember right, she was told that a bunch of people were up partying in Jericho's suite and she got up there and it was just him and he was naked. She then said, if I remember correctly, that she left immediately. I am not sure she that fucked Jerichold, especially since she wasn't used on TV after that before her break

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Apologies if this was already posted but I just found out about these AI channels that can't pronounce the saying "What WWE" which causes the program to have a stroke and I'm fucking dying

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xgNRLPxwRNg

Wrestling channels with people who can't pronounce shit correctly are a dime a dozen, especially British ones covering Japanese wrestling.

Seriously, why can't Brits pronounce ANY Japanese name correctly? It isn't hard, and if you are on-camera saying something, basic professionalism demands that you learn how to say it correctly.

For more laughs, check out BretFMW's continuous failure to say "Korakuen Hall" correctly, even after hundreds of episodes of The History of FMW and saying "Korakuen" thousands of times.

 

[The Hungry African]

funnily enough one of the latests sex pest was noted women respected cm punk

Not Phil "Men should be allowed in women's bathrooms" Brooks. There is no way Consent Matters (except when its my friends) Punk could be a sex pest. You think you know a guy.

 

[trent]

Apologies if this was already posted but I just found out about these AI channels that can't pronounce the saying "What WWE" which causes the program to have a stroke and I'm fucking dying

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xgNRLPxwRNg

Straight up have tears streaming down my face laughing at his. Billions spent on AI and "WWE" turns it into some guy with a stutter who apparently gets continually more annoyed and then seems to drown after about 15 seconds of repeating "wuh-wwuh-whu-wuih-wuh".

Truly transformational technology.