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Seems like the "guntube is dying" fad died already. Like all trends the lifespan just gets shorter and shorter as time goes on, anyone want to place bets on the next trend? I'm getting the vibe that sperging about people being "too political" or "guntoob shouldn't be all about militias" is going to be the next big wave that will last two weeks before fading away.
Were you lucky enough that the anti-foregrip vs. pro-foregrip drama passed you by?
 
I could get excited about some old bolt action hunting rifles and someone sperging about bullet expansion and shot placement. Probably be the "no militias" thing though.
Ron Spomer Outdoors?
Watched a few vids when they popped up in the suggestions, quite interesting and relaxing sort of way to have on in the background.
 
Were you lucky enough that the anti-foregrip vs. pro-foregrip drama passed you by?
Seems I was, looks like "FRT's are good for you?" is the big meme this week, it really does feel like the 2A sektur cannot handle how the internet works anymore, a single semi large influencer says one thing and it becomes the talk of the town, in any other hobby I have it takes at least a small gaggle of 2mil+ follower accounts to get any topic trending.
 
USOG(UnitedStatesOfGuns) is good for this, though I'm not subscribed. He gets into some high value stuff too.
Tom river is good for classic stuff too, especially load development.
Capandball
TGSoutdoors for shotgun stuff and bird shooting
Folkfirearmscollective for flintlock vids
The cinnabar for cowboy guns and gunsmithing
Among others I’m sure I’m forgetting
 
Were you lucky enough that the anti-foregrip vs. pro-foregrip drama passed you by?
I saw people talking about the drama but nothing to do with the drama itself.
Seems I was, looks like "FRT's are good for you?" is the big meme this week, it really does feel like the 2A sektur cannot handle how the internet works anymore, a single semi large influencer says one thing and it becomes the talk of the town, in any other hobby I have it takes at least a small gaggle of 2mil+ follower accounts to get any topic trending.
The "Is guntube dead" question led to this, I think. They're chasing random topics like retards now.
 
I saw people talking about the drama but nothing to do with the drama itself.

The "Is guntube dead" question led to this, I think. They're chasing random topics like retards now.
I also partially blame competition shooting. At this point the ar15 is solved and they are endlessly chasing minutia trying to generate topics of interest to keep shit trending on the algo because you can only repeat "go train and shoot at events" so many times before the algo, and thus the consumer base that makes up your audience, bored.
 
The "Is guntube dead" question led to this, I think. They're chasing random topics like retards now.
I also partially blame competition shooting. At this point the ar15 is solved and they are endlessly chasing minutia trying to generate topics of interest to keep shit trending on the algo because you can only repeat "go train and shoot at events" so many times before the algo, and thus the consumer base that makes up your audience, bored.
It also doesn't help that Guntube has always been small, niche, and incestuous.
 
It also doesn't help that Guntube has always been small, niche, and incestuous.
I don’t know if that’s the case in general but I would argue it’s more of an issue at the top with the largest creators.

I always find some channel with 20K subscribers doing something I personally find interesting but their channel fails to take off and they quit.

YouTube is just hostile to guntubers in general and no one wants to lead the exodus to alt-tech platforms.
 
YouTube is just hostile to guntubers in general and no one wants to lead the exodus to alt-tech platforms.
I mean... youtube is hostile to everybody who isn't some Mr Beast or How Ridiculous type who actively predates upon children's attention spans. And what other platforms? Every other platform is too small or too alternative or it caters to a different type of content entirely. Youtube absolutely makes money, it has to, but even if the old myth is true and it doesn't then the value it holds as THE internet's community driven video streaming platform is unassailable unless you do the tiktok thing where you have the financial and political backing of an entity the size of the CCP and something akin to the Great Firewall to give yourself a captive audience that cannot easily go to youtube.
 
I mean... youtube is hostile to everybody who isn't some Mr Beast or How Ridiculous type who actively predates upon children's attention spans.
Ian has talked about this many times when people have asked him "why don't you do videos on Poob or Guzz or Full30 or Tubi or whatever" and the answer always is the same, there's no viewers or money there. YouTube with all its many faults is the biggest and if you want anyone to watch your content, you have to be there. If you think about Ian and rest of that folk, how many different video sites and platforms have they gone through by now? There's half-dozen of them by now and even their own History of Weapons & War failed to gather enough subscribers.

What about alternative content like full-auto or fiddling with the guns overall? That's enough for Patreons and other alternative sites as an additional thing, but just not enough to make everything viable there.
 
Ian has talked about this many times when people have asked him "why don't you do videos on Poob or Guzz or Full30 or Tubi or whatever" and the answer always is the same, there's no viewers or money there. YouTube with all its many faults is the biggest and if you want anyone to watch your content, you have to be there. If you think about Ian and rest of that folk, how many different video sites and platforms have they gone through by now? There's half-dozen of them by now and even their own History of Weapons & War failed to gather enough subscribers.

What about alternative content like full-auto or fiddling with the guns overall? That's enough for Patreons and other alternative sites as an additional thing, but just not enough to make everything viable there.
It comes up every so often but there is no reason for viewers to migrate if it's the exact same content with maybe a minute-or-so of full auto fire.
Making paid-exclusive content worth watching is usually just posted to Patreon because anyone who wants to genuinely support will or already is subscribed there, but it's usually just throwaway crap that nobody would enjoy specifically paying to see on another video site. But that's the whole problem, people already struggle making videos so they don't want to make better stuff to goad people into moving over.
 
It comes up every so often but there is no reason for viewers to migrate if it's the exact same content with maybe a minute-or-so of full auto fire.
Making paid-exclusive content worth watching is usually just posted to Patreon because anyone who wants to genuinely support will or already is subscribed there, but it's usually just throwaway crap that nobody would enjoy specifically paying to see on another video site. But that's the whole problem, people already struggle making videos so they don't want to make better stuff to goad people into moving over.
It's also because all the alternative video sites hire the cheapest contractors they can find who end up making an ugly site that's clunky and slow.

It's a very hard problem to efficiently serve video at scale and you have to pay Google-level wages to get someone smart enough to reimplement YouTube to work for you.

They also have no product ideas besides making "YouTube, but I get to keep all the money and control the censorship algorithm". Why would a user care to use their sites instead of YouTube?
 
No alternative is going to be able to defeat Youtube because the viewers just won't use anything else.

Capandball nearly had his channel deleted earlier this year. He has been removing all cartridge loading videos and putting them on Patreon at least for posterity. Youtbe AI will retroactively punish you when new rules are created.

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Ian has talked about this many times when people have asked him "why don't you do videos on Poob or Guzz or Full30 or Tubi or whatever" and the answer always is the same, there's no viewers or money there. YouTube with all its many faults is the biggest and if you want anyone to watch your content, you have to be there. If you think about Ian and rest of that folk, how many different video sites and platforms have they gone through by now? There's half-dozen of them by now and even their own History of Weapons & War failed to gather enough subscribers.

What about alternative content like full-auto or fiddling with the guns overall? That's enough for Patreons and other alternative sites as an additional thing, but just not enough to make everything viable there.
Ian keeps parroting the same reasons and he misses the forest for the trees.

There are no viewers because:

1. Alt-tech video platforms like Bitchute (terrible), Odysee, Rumble, and Kick took off after SmartTVs debuted and can’t get apps on those platforms. Most normies into guns are going to watch on their TV. They could get apps on smartTV if the numbers were there and can meet each TV’s app store’s standards but who knows how annoying that is.

2. There is barely any interesting content these popular creators make to justify being on an alternate platform. The only video I watched on Rumble for Ian was him building a P365 because YouTube wouldn’t allow it. Want to get viewers for these platforms? Show gun smithing videos, show videos assembling a full rifle, show kit build videos, show how to build an FRT, show 3D printed guns. Show anything YouTube gets gay about.

3. Popular guntubers are lazy cattle waiting to be slaughtered by big tech and don’t have a back up plan when it happens. The writing has been on the wall for a while, Ian has been hostile to the idea of mirroring his channel and they rather have bad shit happens to cry victim rather than recognize they are on unstable ground.
 
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I wonder how much too is channels not wanting to admit to themselves their subscriber counts often aren’t reflective at all of their actual current and active audience.
I think fans will follow you, largely, if you have them, and like people said above you give them reason to. Casual viewers likely won’t, and scrolling views won’t either.

Inrangetv has 939k subscribers - Karl released a Q and A video 4 or 5 days ago that has 11k views. Those are abysmal numbers; in this case, it’s easy to understand why (Karl) the channel has largely tanked.

In a hypothetical case like that, moving to kick and getting a few thousand views seems more reflective of what your fan base actually is.
 
I wonder how much too is channels not wanting to admit to themselves their subscriber counts often aren’t reflective at all of their actual current and active audience.
I think fans will follow you, largely, if you have them, and like people said above you give them reason to. Casual viewers likely won’t, and scrolling views won’t either.

Inrangetv has 939k subscribers - Karl released a Q and A video 4 or 5 days ago that has 11k views. Those are abysmal numbers; in this case, it’s easy to understand why (Karl) the channel has largely tanked.

In a hypothetical case like that, moving to kick and getting a few thousand views seems more reflective of what your fan base actually is.
It's easy to hit that subscribe button but difficult to sit through a video you don't care about. There are people to this day who have no idea that Ian left InRangeTV and that Karl is running out of things he will bother talking about because they haven't clicked on a video since the AK mud test that briefly went viral years ago. There are also people who have never realized they can look up gun information on YouTube, or don't know how to work the search bar.
In the chase for number-go-up from the Covid days nobody knew how to ease their expectations once things settled back down and instead pointed fingers at Google, openly ranting at their dwindling fanbase about their metrics not being in the green even though they're putting out less videos or not giving viewers what they want.
 
YouTube viewers not looking at their subscriptions and only looking at the home page feed is a major reason why sub counts to actual views drop off so heavily. There’s a constant refrain from subscribers “I don’t see your content anymore” in the comments sections across channels.

Most people doing YouTube should keep it as a hobby.

The people doing it as a career need multiple revenue streams. Ian does have that between books and other things he’s doing.
 
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