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I've talked about it elsewhere but I genuinely c r a v e a 4X game in the vein of Civilization where - not necsesarily as the point of it - you can play, as a civilization, the Jews.
My argument is that they have the potential to be a unique playstyle, and I'm not talking some offensive edgelord meme thing. It's a civilizational identity that transcends borders and maintains some cohesion even over national conflicts. Jews would essentially be hardlocked to their starting Jerusalem, but even if they lose it they don't die. They build infrastructure throughout host civs and can be symbiotic or parasitic. You can be enriching societies with Spinozas and Einsteins, science and art and great industry, and you can also be pushing dope. Control of hosts is something you battle for when interests don't align. Mutual enemies you fight against. An early Jewish game is perilous; you've got banks and doctors but can lose it all easily to a realm turning hostile, while late game you can effectively build international coalitions behind you. Winning is basically IRL: America and "the Jews" (Israel) co-won Civilization IRL, though Germany seriously existentially threatened the latter in a way they never did the former.
To show it's not the kind of gimmick that overshadows everything, I've entertained that the Papists are really similar. The Catholic Church not as a bonus, not even as a mechanic but as a whole parallel civilization-within-a-civilization that really existed as a physical, powerful, geopolitically decisive THING with THINGS. Monasteries, universities, crusader orders that sometimes owned entire realms, the ability to depose kings by propaganda. And in a certain sense the story of modernity is as much about Catholicism having nearly won the world and fumbled and losing it, decisively (when it's dying even in Latin America), as it is Judaism resurging from ashes over and over.
My argument is that they have the potential to be a unique playstyle, and I'm not talking some offensive edgelord meme thing. It's a civilizational identity that transcends borders and maintains some cohesion even over national conflicts. Jews would essentially be hardlocked to their starting Jerusalem, but even if they lose it they don't die. They build infrastructure throughout host civs and can be symbiotic or parasitic. You can be enriching societies with Spinozas and Einsteins, science and art and great industry, and you can also be pushing dope. Control of hosts is something you battle for when interests don't align. Mutual enemies you fight against. An early Jewish game is perilous; you've got banks and doctors but can lose it all easily to a realm turning hostile, while late game you can effectively build international coalitions behind you. Winning is basically IRL: America and "the Jews" (Israel) co-won Civilization IRL, though Germany seriously existentially threatened the latter in a way they never did the former.
To show it's not the kind of gimmick that overshadows everything, I've entertained that the Papists are really similar. The Catholic Church not as a bonus, not even as a mechanic but as a whole parallel civilization-within-a-civilization that really existed as a physical, powerful, geopolitically decisive THING with THINGS. Monasteries, universities, crusader orders that sometimes owned entire realms, the ability to depose kings by propaganda. And in a certain sense the story of modernity is as much about Catholicism having nearly won the world and fumbled and losing it, decisively (when it's dying even in Latin America), as it is Judaism resurging from ashes over and over.