🎭 Dramacow Gamergate / Depression Quest Shitstorm

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[Ouija Board]

I've read somewhere that the threat against Anita and USU weren't found to be anything, that everyone was safe which is kind of a relief. However, I can assume that they are trying to track down the person(s) who sent the threats and that possibly they could get a terrorism charge if caught.

I'm going to go a bit off topic here.

I used to play video games when I was younger. I used to play Super Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Klax and other various games on our SNES. Then my stepdad got me and my sister a Sega Genesis for Christmas and I played Mortal Kombat, Sonic 1 and 2 and some others that I can't think of right now. I wasn't good at these games but they were fun to play. I liked trying to figure out the moves on Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. However, I could only play games if my stepfather allowed us to play the Sega. See, he really only got that console for himself and played video games more than me or my sister did, he also got a Playstation 1 (or 2 I can't remember) and he basically hogged the consoles. That's one thing that killed gaming for me as it wasn't fair that he got these consoles as a gift for me and my sister and we couldn't use them without his permission.
Then of course, we never could afford the new consoles and I never really thought about gaming much after that. Games started getting too complicated for me after that.
After that, when gaming consoles started linking to the Internet, I have heard about how gamers will harass women and girl gamers online and I have seen Youtube videos of that happening then I felt that I couldn't really get into gaming then unless I could play by myself and not worry about stuff like that.

Mostly though, it's because I couldn't and still can't afford consoles or a powerful enough PC to play games on and I don't even have a Steam account as I don't have a debit or credit card to be able to pay for games and I only have a refurbished laptop that runs Windows 7 but constantly freezes up and goes slow.

TBH, I miss playing games and I really wish I could get back into them. Watching Jace and others play Five Nights at Freddy's made me wish that I had a PC that could handle games and play for myself. I am still not a good gamer and I am not a good problem solver but games were about having fun for me. I think games are pretty cool and some story lines are really really good, like Portal or Mass Effect.

Is there sexism and misogyny in games? Probably so. Eventually as the new generation grows up and gets into gaming, there might be more female gamers who would want there to be women in strong roles and not sexualized/objectified. However, there will always be games that pander to the male audience and ultimately it will be up to the game developers of what they want to create.

I think games like Mass Effect and Bayonetta (from what I've read) are a good start because they make a compromise between roles, looks and attitudes across genders.

 

[teheviltwin]

I've read somewhere that the threat against Anita and USU weren't found to be anything, that everyone was safe which is kind of a relief. However, I can assume that they are trying to track down the person(s) who sent the threats and that possibly they could get a terrorism charge if caught.

I'm going to go a bit off topic here.

I used to play video games when I was younger. I used to play Super Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Klax and other various games on our SNES. Then my stepdad got me and my sister a Sega Genesis for Christmas and I played Mortal Kombat, Sonic 1 and 2 and some others that I can't think of right now. I wasn't good at these games but they were fun to play. I liked trying to figure out the moves on Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. However, I could only play games if my stepfather allowed us to play the Sega. See, he really only got that console for himself and played video games more than me or my sister did, he also got a Playstation 1 (or 2 I can't remember) and he basically hogged the consoles. That's one thing that killed gaming for me as it wasn't fair that he got these consoles as a gift for me and my sister and we couldn't use them without his permission.
Then of course, we never could afford the new consoles and I never really thought about gaming much after that. Games started getting too complicated for me after that.
After that, when gaming consoles started linking to the Internet, I have heard about how gamers will harass women and girl gamers online and I have seen Youtube videos of that happening then I felt that I couldn't really get into gaming then unless I could play by myself and not worry about stuff like that.

Mostly though, it's because I couldn't and still can't afford consoles or a powerful enough PC to play games on and I don't even have a Steam account as I don't have a debit or credit card to be able to pay for games and I only have a refurbished laptop that runs Windows 7 but constantly freezes up and goes slow.

TBH, I miss playing games and I really wish I could get back into them. Watching Jace and others play Five Nights at Freddy's made me wish that I had a PC that could handle games and play for myself. I am still not a good gamer and I am not a good problem solver but games were about having fun for me. I think games are pretty cool and some story lines are really really good, like Portal or Mass Effect.

Is there sexism and misogyny in games? Probably so. Eventually as the new generation grows up and gets into gaming, there might be more female gamers who would want there to be women in strong roles and not sexualized/objectified. However, there will always be games that pander to the male audience and ultimately it will be up to the game developers of what they want to create.

I think games like Mass Effect and Bayonetta (from what I've read) are a good start because they make a compromise between roles, looks and attitudes across genders.

I have to say that objectified is a matter of opinion. There are some games that really do objectify women but they tend to be shit... If the smarts aren't there to make a decent character then they aren't there to make decent mechanics. I enjoy sexy power fantasies like Bayonetta but the same game is Anita Sarkeesian's nemesis. Even though it was made to be a power fantasy. Mass Effect is far more balanced because you literally play the same role no matter what your gender and Dragon Age, by the same studio, is the same. However, I do think that the age restrictions on vidya should be taken more seriously as some games are obviously aimed at mature gamers.

 

[Gothicserpent]

Silly Gawker is silly.

Definitely should be added into any emails to Kotaku's advertisers.

That reminds of of when Bogleech (a somewhat popular blogger) told someone that he deserved to be bullied for liking MLP.

 

[Andrew Noel Schaefer]

The answer to the SEXISM AND MYSOGONY IN VIDEOGAMES is to have more positive examples, instead of focusing too much on how awful things are by the negative examples. Look up to female game developers (that actually develop games and not peices of shit *cough*) and just ignore the ones riding the rocket for attention.

Edit: Like look up Roberta Williams. I know shes and her husband are retired now, but she was a big deal back in the day! A big deal... In the positive way!

 

[Ouija Board]

I know that I am going to sound weird for saying this but I would love to play as a customizable fat character, male or female.

I have to say that objectified is a matter of opinion. There are some games that really do objectify women but they tend to be shit... If the smarts aren't there to make a decent character then they aren't there to make decent mechanics. I enjoy sexy power fantasies like Bayonetta but the same game is Anita Sarkeesian's nemesis. Even though it was made to be a power fantasy. Mass Effect is far more balanced because you literally play the same role no matter what your gender and Dragon Age, by the same studio, is the same. However, I do think that the age restrictions on vidya should be taken more seriously as some games are obviously aimed at mature gamers.

Yes, I think that a good strong story is what makes the game, or any other media for that matter. I think that's why some indie games are popular like Five Frights at Freddy and others aren't. I think that people do have a right to criticize an art form or other media without getting harassed or getting death threats. I watched Anita's videos and there were parts that I agreed with and others that I didn't

I like to watch play throughs sometimes and recently I watched one on Watch Dogs. I can say about the part where the main protagonists goes to the auction that they should have put male trafficking victims on there, not because I think that just showing naked women is sexist but that adding male victims would be realistic as males do get kidnapped and put into sexual slavery and/or labor slavery and it would also make sense that a buyer would want a male slave as well as well as there could be female or gay buyers interested in male body. Does what I say make sense? lol.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I know that I am going to sound weird for saying this but I would love to play as a customizable fat character, male or female.



Yes, I think that a good strong story is what makes the game, or any other media for that matter. I think that's why some indie games are popular like Five Frights at Freddy and others aren't. I think that people do have a right to criticize an art form or other media without getting harassed or getting death threats. I watched Anita's videos and there were parts that I agreed with and others that I didn't

I like to watch play throughs sometimes and recently I watched one on Watch Dogs. I can say about the part where the main protagonists goes to the auction that they should have put male trafficking victims on there, not because I think that just showing naked women is sexist but that adding male victims would be realistic as males do get kidnapped and put into sexual slavery and/or labor slavery and it would also make sense that a buyer would want a male slave as well as well as there could be female or gay buyers interested in male body. Does what I say make sense? lol.

Saints Row 3 and 4 let you play as an overweight character you could customize pretty elaborately.

 

[Ouija Board]

Saints Row 3 and 4 let you play as an overweight character you could customize pretty elaborately.

Damn, I really wish I had a good PC or TV and game console because I want to play that. Also, I think Sims 3 has those kinds of customizations. Sims might be a good game for me as I like world building. I don't know squat about the game other than watching Jace play it but it looks fun. I don't know how to get mods or expansion packs and again money is a huge factor preventing me from enjoying this past time.

 

[CWCissey]

Damn, I really wish I had a good PC or TV and game console because I want to play that. Also, I think Sims 3 has those kinds of customizations. Sims might be a good game for me as I like world building. I don't know squat about the game other than watching Jace play it but it looks fun. I don't know how to get mods or expansion packs and again money is a huge factor preventing me from enjoying this past time.

Mods are usually user created and uploaded on the Internet. I can't tell you a dedicated site for Sims mods as I hate those whiny bastards, but if the community is anything like that for the Sim City games (particularly 4) then you're in for a good time.

The expansion packs you can just get cheap off Play.com or something.

 

[Ouija Board]

Mods are usually user created and uploaded on the Internet. I can't tell you a dedicated site for Sims mods as I hate those whiny bastards, but if the community is anything like that for the Sim City games (particularly 4) then you're in for a good time.

The expansion packs you can just get cheap off Play.com or something.

Yeah, I was wondering where the hell Jace got his mods at. I don't have the game. I don't have any games at all but if I were able to buy one I would get Sims 3 as the specs probably fit my computer anyways.

 

[Truck Rockfort]

Damn, I really wish I had a good PC or TV and game console because I want to play that. Also, I think Sims 3 has those kinds of customizations. Sims might be a good game for me as I like world building. I don't know squat about the game other than watching Jace play it but it looks fun. I don't know how to get mods or expansion packs and again money is a huge factor preventing me from enjoying this past time.

If your want to play Saint Row get Saints Row 2 because honestly they streamlined the customizations so damn much in 3, and 4 is a shameless copy past of 3 and nothing but a glorified expansion pack because it was originally mean to be DLC for 3 but got turned into a "new" game.

 

[Smutley]

I don't know about Poor Mans Nathan Fillian on the right, but Nathan Drake meets Marlon Brando on the left is kinda studly.

Also, that's the news editor of Jezebel that just got rekt, in case anyone was wondering. You'll also be surprised to note that there's no mention of paying the bounty.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

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I don't know about Poor Mans Nathan Fillian on the right, but Nathan Drake meets Marlon Brando on the left is kinda studly.

Also, that's the news editor of Jezebel that just got rekt, in case anyone was wondering. You'll also be surprised to note that there's no mention of paying the bounty.

An editor is going around making posts like that?! How does this woman have a job?

 

[Rammspieler]

I dunno if this was already posted. But #GG made DailyKOS.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...he-internet-you-haven-t-heard-of?detail=email

I would of have liked to have commented about how as a self-described gamer and a minority member, how I'm disgusted by SJW's using me to cover up their fuck-ups in character and their blatant hypocrisy. But then I would just be called a "middle class, straight, cis, white male" and to "check my privilege". Also I'm too lazy to make an account there.

Yes, I agree that we could be more welcoming as a community to women and minorities (basically what I always said back on love-shy.com). Yes, I think rebooted Lara Croft was more realistic and I could relate more to, despite being male, than the original (even back when the first one came out, I thought she was kinda ridiculous and wondered what the hell was wrong with guys drooling after polygonal boobs). Of course I would like to see more games with minorities as protagonists.

But I refuse to let some fucking hipster declare that I and people who share my hobbies should go the way of the dinosaur and then claim that they are in fact "defending me" in the same breath.

 

[c-no]

Silly Gawker is silly.

Definitely should be added into any emails to Kotaku's advertisers.

What a mature, kind, and reasonable adult this man is. He deserves something such as losing whatever position of power he has at Gawker or Kotaku.

What a maroon.

He could be more than that.

 

[Smutley]

An editor is going around making posts like that?! How does this woman have a job?

It's her attempt at subtle jab to people calling out Jezebel and Gawker for their double-standards. Recently, Jezebel offered $10k for unretouched vogue photos of Lena Dunham, who Nick Denton and Max Reed have decided is a person non gratis within Gawker Towers. They got them within hours of making the request, published them, discovered that yes, she was photoshopped but not really drastically, and were suddenly out 10k.

Their readerbase either championed it as "truth against sexist magazines pushing a cis white male agenda" but the majority of readers who commented on- and off-site said that it was really gross of them to do that because who the fuck even cared about a photoshopped magazine cover since everyone KNEW they were photoshopped and no one in the past decade has tried to pretend they aren't?

Gawker got a brief smattering of page hits from it, and got absolutely slammed in every reputable and non-reputable outlet available by someone on a publicity tour for their hit show who had an open microphone any time she wanted wherever she went.

This is after the Hulk Hogan sex tape fiasco about publishing a video not leaked by either party that they lost and tried to play up as a win too, but before the current publishing hacked DMs from Amanda Bynes while she's in a psychiatric hold for a psychotic episode.

That's a very meandering and mostly off-topic explanation as to why an Editor of anywhere would think it's a good idea to offer money, because they think their hardcore reader-base, the only people left now, would find it a #sickskeletonburn

 

[Red_Rager]

I dunno if this was already posted. But #GG made DailyKOS.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...he-internet-you-haven-t-heard-of?detail=email

I would of have liked to have commented about how as a self-described gamer and a minority member, how I'm disgusted by SJW's using me to cover up their fuck-ups in character and their blatant hypocrisy. But then I would just be called a "middle class, straight, cis, white male" and to "check my privilege". Also I'm too lazy to make an account there.

Yes, I agree that we could be more welcoming as a community to women and minorities (basically what I always said back on love-shy.com). Yes, I think rebooted Lara Croft was more realistic and I could relate more to, despite being male, than the original (even back when the first one came out, I thought she was kinda ridiculous and wondered what the hell was wrong with guys drooling after polygonal boobs). Of course I would like to see more games with minorities as protagonists.

But I refuse to let some fucking hipster declare that I and people who share my hobbies should go the way of the dinosaur and then claim that they are in fact "defending me" in the same breath.

I saw that as well, I'm on their mailing list. I am not surprised, they are very, very leftist there. One thing I'm starting to notice about the left is they seem to think if you are crusading for social justice, whatever, that may be, you can do no wrong. They don't seem to show any interest in the other side of the story. Once you are labeled "conservative" that is it you viewpoints are wrong and invalid.

I don't want to derail this threat, but I am becoming disillusioned with the left. To be fair, I notice the same behavior with conservatives as well. I think this has to do with people having their ideology becoming their identity. When something becomes personal you lose objectiveness

 

[Ouija Board]

Just going off topic here but are there free games on Steam? I'm thinking of joining up but unfortunately don't have the money for the big games. I'd like to play something.

 

[Ouija Board]

I saw that as well, I'm on their mailing list. I am not surprised, they are very, very leftist there. One thing I'm starting to notice about the left is they seem to think if you are crusading for social justice, whatever, that may be, you can do no wrong. They don't seem to show any interest in the other side of the story. Once you are labeled "conservative" that is it you viewpoints are wrong and invalid.

I don't want to derail this threat, but I am becoming disillusioned with the left. To be fair, I notice the same behavior with conservatives as well. I think this has to do with people having their ideology becoming their identity. When something becomes personal you lose objectiveness

This is why I try not to go to extremes, I'm a very leftist person but I don't bash conservatives. Yes there are issues that I take to heart but I don't try to cram it down others' throats and that's what I don't like about the SJWs. I'm for feminism, just not the man-hating, superiority complex kind which I think is more damaging to women than those in the middle.

Basically, I don't like people that are like Big Redd.

 

[Rammspieler]

Is there a such thing as a "paleo-liberal"? I think there should be.