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Do people really see this whole situation and think the other side can actually pull through? Like, think its a great idea to just jump in on a cause that has literally no foothold despite an incredibly large amount of growing evidence against it?
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To be fair no side is looking good at this point. Gaming journalism comes off as shady as fuck. Especially silly when you consider this is all over some indie game that probably would make no real money. The gamers are generally represented, accurate or not, by MRA goofs like Homer. Both sides look like retards.
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- 31 de Jul, 2014
Yes I know, but anyone with integrity will look at the situation past the surface. I'd like to think Homers aren't the majority here when you actually look at the entire thing. Even if so, Homers are stupid. The other side is deliberately sending death threats and doxxing people, and that's worse than idiots you would think.
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- 11 de Sep, 2014
As someone who hasn't been following the Zoe Quinn and Gamergate, the entire situation seems pretty retarded.
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- 27 de Jun, 2014
This whole affair reminds me of something politically - an actually uplifting political story, from a long time ago, and so as to avoid filling things with needless sperg, I'll wrap the bulk of it in spoiler tags so you can read it or ignore it as you see fit.
I don't generally agree with Brietbart. In the past, I've found his fishing for stories and openly looking for evidence to support it, no matter how idiotic the tactics to get it and how absolutely horrid it renders the process a bad example, but as Gamergate's rolled on, I've found his evidence not only compelling, but absolutely fascinating. Like I learned in that giant block of Spoiler text above, I don't have to agree with someone 24/7 to acknowledge that they may have a damned good point, or even be right on something. And on that thought, I leave you.
See, I'm pretty leftist. Have been for a while, will be until the day I die, and a lot of that has to do with me actually giving a good goddamned about my fellow man, and believing we have a moral responsibility to try to make sure that future generations have a better shot at things than we do. To someone like me, who does their own research about everything politically, and generally doesn't give the time of day to Fox news or the like, the fact that I might be willing to listen to the likes of Milo from Breitbart on something may seem like, especially to the errant Fake Justice Warrior, like a break in the ranks, or that I am not sufficiently hard-line for their tastes, or worse, a contemptible traitor.
But see, the case is actually that I genuinely think that the other side can have good ideas sometimes. If you're ever going to be in a leadership position, this skill is absolutely critical, especially if you're dealing with groups that have common ground and otherwise don't see eye-to-eye very well.
There was this one time - a really fucking long time ago - that the Westboro Baptist Church - you know, the GodHatesFags assholes - had been going on a whirlwind tour of conservative news sources. They are, as you know, attention whores as big as any lolcow, and thrive on attention - any attention, especially negative. And though you had the errant case of say, someone or another managing to call him to task, like the infamous time Michael Moore confronted pastor Fred with the Sodomobile - Phelps had largely contained visits on major networks to ones where, at best, he'd be pitched softball questions, and face no real actual confrontation for it whatsoever. There was one time, however, that his tendency to do this went disastrously, hilariously wrong.
Enter Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes.
Normally, I couldn't stand Hannity. Really, I couldn't (and still can't) stand talking-head radio and open editorial TV programming in general, since it's often loaded with sufficient incorrect facts, elegantly-constructed mistruths, and out-of-context bullshit that it's literally impossible to consider "news" anymore, and seeing Hannity and Colmes have Shirley Phelps - Pastor Fred's eldest daughter on the air, I was expecting more softballing, barely any confrontation, and generally the WBC getting more free exposure from screaming offensive bullshit, as has been their modus operendi since day one.
That's not what happened.
After Colmes tried to talk reason to Shirley for several minutes, Shirley went on a lengthy diatribe about how a bunch of little girls from a religion that happened to be not the Westboro Baptist Church deserved death because they weren't of her religion. Hannity fucking snapped, and in an outburst of what could only be called fucking humanity I had rarely seen, called the woman to task for her bullshit on national television, and called her exactly what she was: "A twisted, soulless human being." Of all the shows Shirley and the rest of the Phelps clan went on, all the ones who generally just sat there and let her espouse her ignorance for several minutes, a show she thought would be another friendly ear called her bullshit as it was.
I fucking learned something from this. I may not have agreed with Hannity's politics, his ideology, or his opinions, but that didn't necessarily mean that there wasn't common ground. If he could be moved to such an action, after all, there was more common ground between us than I had originally considered. And that's where a critical thing I learned emerged - we may not always agree with others, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're all bad, even if there's a lot of things they do you find despicable.
Granted, the Shirley Phelps thing becomes far funnier when you consider that they kicked out pastor Fred for suspicions that he was a homo, but I digress.
But see, the case is actually that I genuinely think that the other side can have good ideas sometimes. If you're ever going to be in a leadership position, this skill is absolutely critical, especially if you're dealing with groups that have common ground and otherwise don't see eye-to-eye very well.
There was this one time - a really fucking long time ago - that the Westboro Baptist Church - you know, the GodHatesFags assholes - had been going on a whirlwind tour of conservative news sources. They are, as you know, attention whores as big as any lolcow, and thrive on attention - any attention, especially negative. And though you had the errant case of say, someone or another managing to call him to task, like the infamous time Michael Moore confronted pastor Fred with the Sodomobile - Phelps had largely contained visits on major networks to ones where, at best, he'd be pitched softball questions, and face no real actual confrontation for it whatsoever. There was one time, however, that his tendency to do this went disastrously, hilariously wrong.
Enter Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes.
Normally, I couldn't stand Hannity. Really, I couldn't (and still can't) stand talking-head radio and open editorial TV programming in general, since it's often loaded with sufficient incorrect facts, elegantly-constructed mistruths, and out-of-context bullshit that it's literally impossible to consider "news" anymore, and seeing Hannity and Colmes have Shirley Phelps - Pastor Fred's eldest daughter on the air, I was expecting more softballing, barely any confrontation, and generally the WBC getting more free exposure from screaming offensive bullshit, as has been their modus operendi since day one.
That's not what happened.
After Colmes tried to talk reason to Shirley for several minutes, Shirley went on a lengthy diatribe about how a bunch of little girls from a religion that happened to be not the Westboro Baptist Church deserved death because they weren't of her religion. Hannity fucking snapped, and in an outburst of what could only be called fucking humanity I had rarely seen, called the woman to task for her bullshit on national television, and called her exactly what she was: "A twisted, soulless human being." Of all the shows Shirley and the rest of the Phelps clan went on, all the ones who generally just sat there and let her espouse her ignorance for several minutes, a show she thought would be another friendly ear called her bullshit as it was.
I fucking learned something from this. I may not have agreed with Hannity's politics, his ideology, or his opinions, but that didn't necessarily mean that there wasn't common ground. If he could be moved to such an action, after all, there was more common ground between us than I had originally considered. And that's where a critical thing I learned emerged - we may not always agree with others, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're all bad, even if there's a lot of things they do you find despicable.
Granted, the Shirley Phelps thing becomes far funnier when you consider that they kicked out pastor Fred for suspicions that he was a homo, but I digress.
I don't generally agree with Brietbart. In the past, I've found his fishing for stories and openly looking for evidence to support it, no matter how idiotic the tactics to get it and how absolutely horrid it renders the process a bad example, but as Gamergate's rolled on, I've found his evidence not only compelling, but absolutely fascinating. Like I learned in that giant block of Spoiler text above, I don't have to agree with someone 24/7 to acknowledge that they may have a damned good point, or even be right on something. And on that thought, I leave you.
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Do we seriously need gaming journalism at this point? We already don't trust reviews and many people just check sites to see the updates on actual games and not editorial pieces. Many of the sites indicated to be colluding are ones I stopped reading years ago because of clickbait pieces I found myself having to skim over more and more. I just wanted fucking info on games and that info is pretty much handed to these websites.
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DrChristianTroy
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- 3 de Feb, 2013
I'm sure if you go through the 4chan/tweets/wherever on the gamer side you'll find doxxing and death threats. Not that I'm saying it's right or one is worse than the other. Just saying both sides are acting like children when it comes to the whole thing.
People read reviews to have shit to bitch about on Gamefaqs.
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- 14 de Nov, 2012
I don't know why you're commending Hanity. He invited that woman onto his show so he could turn around and insult her for ratings. Other people have done this. Fuck, even The Amazing Atheist has a very early video where he had a teleconference interview with Shirley. This is not a novel thing and talking to a person who goes out of her way to talk is not a difficult process. Nothing was achieved in that meeting. Arguably, the trade of having her on television instead of protesting spared the families trouble, but that only serves to bolster Hannity's brownie points more than it does contain Phelps. She got her air time, she said what she had to say, and she will continue to do so until her "black, soulless" heart stops beating.
Phelps is a smart woman. She is a lawyer with a bachleor's degree in criminal justice an Juris Doctor based in constitutional law. She would not have agreed to the conditions if it did not benefit her more than the protest.
Phelps is a smart woman. She is a lawyer with a bachleor's degree in criminal justice an Juris Doctor based in constitutional law. She would not have agreed to the conditions if it did not benefit her more than the protest.
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- 27 de Jun, 2014
Well, it's been brought up before, but they're becoming irrelevant with the rise of smaller reviewers and youtubers. Like was paraphrased by both TotalBiscuit and InternetAristocrat, Gawker's collective clickbaiting will get less attention in a week than PewDiePie will get in about half an hour, and that, ultimately, is one reason the likes of Kotaku and company hate them so much. They're all about the free market and all that jazz, until the nanosecond that Free Market is willing to tell them to fuck off. That's when all the stops get pulled out, and they treat their customer-base like shit. And then get surprised when the response is the likes of fucking Gamergate.
This is very true.
Any reasoned analysis shows that this fucking obviously was set up from the get-go, but that's not why I found it fascinating. What I found amazing about it was the mere concept that there was actual common ground to be found somewhere amidst all that, with someone who, generally, I wouldn't have given the time of day to if the security TV got any channel but that (and probably still wouldn't).
You're pretty much spot-on otherwise, though, so props to you on that, Null.
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- 24 de Jul, 2013
I'm going to have to disagree with you Null. You don't have to be smart to have a degree, or be a lawyer, or have a JD in constitutional law. You have to memorize information and pass the bar without screwing up and coming off as psycho. She would be described as shrewd perhaps, about her brand and her kin, but smart doesn't even rank up there - to the point that Westboro Baptist Church was willing to accept plane tickets so they could fly to Iraq and protest ISIS in person.
The old adage of all publicity is good publicity will rear it's head, but it's disingenuous. Sometimes all publicity yields no results, good or bad. What good did getting bitched out by Sean Hannity of all people do? Make them look more conservative? Make them sympathetic? No one cared, it just made more people hate them and talk about them. Westboro doesn't even accept donations and funding according to the Southern Poverty Law Center! Their entire funding comes from filing lawsuits for problems they themselves caused, and since they represent themselves, all the legal fees from their winnings just go straight into the church coffers. That's self preservation, in the sense that no other lawyer would dare take their case, not smart.
Sean Hannity straight up bitching this lady out did him favors but it was the right response from anyone who claims to have a heart or a brain. The Phelps clan received nothing of note from their interview besides a black car and some air time.
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- 29 de Mayo, 2014
I love how they say that it's "White Nerds".
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- 6 de Feb, 2013
I was discussing this with a friend, and he jokingly suggested that considering it's the House of Representatives, it could be anyone at all from the government, including the President's family.
I don't believe it will really reach that level, and it's an exaggeration, but could you imagine the SJWs trying to dox this anonymous and it turns out to be the President's daughter? This would probably end this one way or another.
I don't believe it will really reach that level, and it's an exaggeration, but could you imagine the SJWs trying to dox this anonymous and it turns out to be the President's daughter? This would probably end this one way or another.
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I've seen people refuse the evidence since they claim it all "boils down to some bitter ex getting revenge".
I'm probably going to have to reread all this but what is considered concrete evidence in this entire mess?
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- 31 de Jul, 2014
We literally have proof of there being a huge far leftist conspiracy group, DIGRA, influence game journalists, who are part of a GIGANTIC mailing list where they can circlejerk each other and plan out what they all write about, they have been doxxing anyone in public support of this movement, and they have gotten several people fired by calling their work and telling lies just because of supporting Gamergate. And recently, someone sent a huge advocate of this whole thing, Milo, a syringe with some kind of liquid in the mail. Basically an actual death threat.
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- 2 de Sep, 2013
Looks like Brad Wardell is going to be part of a live stream tomorrow.
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2h6aqa/livestream_with_brad_wardell_stardock_ceo/
http://www.hitbox.tv/WhiskeyGrenade
https://twitter.com/draginol He's retweeting shit from Homer.
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2h6aqa/livestream_with_brad_wardell_stardock_ceo/
http://www.hitbox.tv/WhiskeyGrenade
https://twitter.com/draginol He's retweeting shit from Homer.
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Probably when someone finally gets arrested.
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- 11 de Sep, 2014
I am starting the miss the days when people just complained about violence in video games, much simpler times.
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