Fuck antifa

[prollyanotherlurker]

I saw this video going over the antifa guidelines. Which is nice because I never would have bothered to read them myself.

The most interesting part to me is what he reads at 23 minutes in. It goes over how they dox people, call up venues to get events cancelled, and suggests threatening venues that don't cancel events.

From what he said I believe it's from this site. click on it at your own risk coming from kiwifarms. I personally didn't visit it, because I'm on my phone as I post this.

https://itsgoingdown.org/about/

As I was looking for more information I found the actual link.

https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/howtoantifa-revised.pdf

This is the site I found it on. Which looks to be a site dedicated to tracking antifa and posting as much as they can online, and it's members.

https://www.influencewatch.org/movement/antifa/

So now onto antifa itself. Besides being cringe communists, anarchists, and all flavors of progressive leftists. They as an organization present the same problem all of these organizations do. To a hammer everything looks like a nail. Antifa's enitre purpose is to be "antifascist", but the problem is. In todays world there really aren't a lot of true fascist organizations, and their influence is tiny. The kkk, and neo-nazis, they are basically non-existent at this point. So does antifa say "alright we won!", and pack it up? No. They need their fascists, so they can save the world from them.

So now a fascist is someone that opposes open-borders, and is for deporting people that entered the country illegally. Even if race has absolutely nothing to do with why they want illegals deported. And I would say just as many, if not the majority of people don't have a problem with mexicans, but they have a problem with a flood of illegal immigrants that have no incentive to follow the law, and actually are incentivized to not follow it because that would risk them being deported, or cost them money.

If not people that are anti illegal immigration, they will throw the term facist at basically anyone that supports capitalism, that doesn't kneel to anything lgbt activists groups want (no matter how retarded or disgusting the implications of what they are asking for are), or that openly support anything moderately right leaning.

Besides being opposed to what they stand for, the reason I dislike them on a deeper level. Is because it's them, and organizations like them throwing around these labels to anything, that has basically slingshotted things back the other direction. It's made all these labels they use completely meaningless, its muddied the waters on what is reasobable, and what is extreme. Also, on the other side of politics, its these people's rhetoric that makes these people believe they are going up against literal nazis in elections. And it gives them a reason to cut off people instead of having open discussion.

Now, I can't really do justice to this while typing out post on my phone. But the point I'm trying to make, is I think antifa, and similar groups of done a lot of damage to western society. In ways that are outside of what people realize. They have influenced how some people think, especially because of how they infiltrated the education system and other places.

 

[Twat in a Hat]

Antifa don't exist so you can stop shitting yourself

 

[Dagobert]

I wouldn't want to have sex with them, but that's your prerogative.

Antifa don't exist so you can stop shitting yourself

What's scary is that there are retards who actually believe this.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Tema 'ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion'

13 de Feb, 2017

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQaR-fnhHmz/

Antifa is a terrorist group made up of anarchist anti-police NEETS who saw it necessary to riot in protest of Trump and his followers in the name of love and tolerance. They are known all over the world for destroying and silencing fascism through means of violence against anyone they deem a nazi by attacking random people, setting private property on fire, and beating up the nearest garbage bin.

...by sending their sides into orbit.

After one of it's memebers managed to sucker punch Richard Spencer during an interview, Antifa...

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[Stabby_Pencil]

If you have a 'How to join' you are not a mere idea, you are a goddamn organization at that point.

 

[Fishnumm]

fuck sickos

 

[Dagobert]

If you have a 'How to join' you are not a mere idea, you are a goddamn organization at that point.

Spoiler alert, they always have been. It was literally founded as a communist front in the 70s.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

Spoiler alert, they always have been. It was literally founded as a communist front in the 70s.

And yet they always say they aren't when they get caught doing something. Fuck it, I want welfare and the like to have them prove they aren't harassing people to get their welfare. And as we know half of Antifa currently is unemployed on welfare. We really need to follow the money for them, and I'd laugh if it turns out Israel is funding Antifa, because most current Antifa are Pro-Palestine and Anti-Israel.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Antifaggots

 

[JohnnyG]

Antifa don't exist so you can stop shitting yourself

Did you just deny the Lived Experience of Violet, the jewish, queer, trans-woman antifag? Did you even listen when xe told you those things are all related?!

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Do they even still exist now that they moved out of the city during the George Floyd riots? Besides obvious cases like Portland.

 

[Underperforming]

To a hammer everything looks like a nail.

There is the "everything that i don't like is fascism" crowd, and then there are the actual anarchists that believe liberalism is proto-fascism. You see this on the right too, with the example of calling things that would otherwise be standard liberalism communism. Honestly, if you really think about it with the true believers, it is just another flavor of "i do not like the federal government."

 

[The Cringe Connoisseur]

Antifa is an autonomous political movement of non affiliated independent groups in germany called Antifaschistische Aktion that was formed in like 1932 that was anti facist AKA against the italian regime and hitler and then became underground and anti nazi during WW2 and after the war anti neo nazi which it still is today. These faggots trying to claim it's an actual organization you can join in the US are just your garden variety soylent virtue signaling grifter trash. The real Antifa killed nazis and italian fascists during the war and still kicks the shit out of their descendents and wannabe revivalists today. They were legit freedom fighters, these twitter dwellers in the US are just lame spoiled clowns.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Tema 'ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion'

13 de Feb, 2017

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQaR-fnhHmz/

Antifa is a terrorist group made up of anarchist anti-police NEETS who saw it necessary to riot in protest of Trump and his followers in the name of love and tolerance. They are known all over the world for destroying and silencing fascism through means of violence against anyone they deem a nazi by attacking random people, setting private property on fire, and beating up the nearest garbage bin.

...by sending their sides into orbit.

After one of it's memebers managed to sucker punch Richard Spencer during an interview, Antifa...

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I'll forever say xenforo's search feature is the most useless piece of shit search engine. I did actually search for antifa before making this thread. And this is what came up. Pages of similar results. This is with the title's only box checked, without it, the results are even more useless. Every time I want to find something on this site, I will try the search feature, and it's about as useful and blindly clicking around in subforums. I hate it.

There is the "everything that i don't like is fascism" crowd, and then there are the actual anarchists that believe liberalism is proto-fascism. You see this on the right too, with the example of calling things that would otherwise be standard liberalism communism. Honestly, if you really think about it with the true believers, it is just another flavor of "i do not like the federal government."

Yeah. I definitely noticed that. They do just call liberal ideas fascism. I don't think a lot of them have any kind of concept of what fascism actually is. So I'm skeptical that those people actually understand the proto-fascism argument. There are probably some of them that do, but there are so many of these people that just say this shit, seemingly just because they feel like it's true. This is something I wanted to put in the post, now that I'm at my computer I can actually type it out.

One thing that I annoys me is the way the use fascism, and nazi. By that I mean they conflate the two terms. They say nazis are fascists and everybody is a nazi to them. Meanwhile, national socialism, is in fact a distict political ideology, and fascism is also. I've seen video essays from commie retards, that try arguing that national socialism didn't actually want to implement socialism (in it's own way), because the retards were mixing and matching fascism, and national socialism to lie about what the national socialist's actually wanted. And to also group the fascists in with them. Also a lot of the arguments I see these people making are based on what one guy said, I can't remember his name or the thing he wrote about it. But it was one communist that wanted to say national socialism wasn't real socialism, to distance communism and socialism from it. He said something along the lines of "national socialism's beliefs are completely incoherent", and "they used socialist terminology to trick people into supporting it", And since then every marxist copes about how the nazi's weren't actually socialist at all. Even though the fucking name of their movement is SOCIALIST.

So you have that. Then these faggots will call a libertarian (I'm just using this, because it's pretty common that they will call libertarians nazis) a nazi, but when you look at what national socialists wanted, or what the fascists wanted. It's the complete opposite of what the people they are calling fascist's believe. The national socialists besides all the race, and jew stuff probably believe something closer to what an antifa member would want, than what the person they are calling a nazi would want, and what the fascists wanted is the polar opposite of what any libertarian would ever want to see. But they don't care. I do believe some of the smarter one's do understand what they say is bullshit, but they use it as a weapon. And the one's that do believe it are just complete retards that follow along because they think they are helping somehow. No matter what their reason for it is, anyone with a brain can see how wrong it is on it's face.

And yeah, I do see sort of a similar thing with the far right. I feel like it's less common, because I feel like super far right people are less common. But yeah, I see the same pitfalls in logic when I do listen to them, or read what they say. It's why I can never get behind any kind of super far right movement (that, and I tend to disagree with them on a lot of things) Even if I can sympathise with what they say more than the commies, when I actually hear them out. I'm never able to really agree past seeing that some of the thing's they say are issues, are in fact issues. But the solutions they give sound like complete shit to me. And if anything they sound just as bad as what we have now, if not worse. Like it's become popular now day's for people to want a monarchy, or a dictator. I hate that so much. I guess it's the logical conclusion to the faggot as manosphere bullshit where they talk about made up shit about alpha males, and their other made up internet right wing crap that everyone wants to grift on now.

 

[Slap47]

try arguing that national socialism didn't actually want to implement socialism

There was a Left faction of the Nazi party that got purged in 1934. Hitler did this because Ernst Rohm and his Brown shirts wanted a proletarian revolution to happen after Hitler's "national revolution".
Hitler's goal was to avenge Versailles and a wage a war of against a Jewish international banking cartel. A disorganized crpto-socialist militia was the weaker option than the monarchist/aristocratic army and he could not have both. Big business (particularly Krupp and the military-industrial complex) were also not fond of a peoples revolution.

Antifaschistische Aktion that was formed in like 1932 that was anti facist

The real Antifa killed nazis and italian fascists during the war and still kicks the shit out of their descendents and wannabe revivalists today. They were legit freedom fighters, these twitter dwellers in the US are just lame spoiled clowns.

This is abit incorrect.

Antifascist Aktion were one of the paramilitary arms of the KPD (German Communist Party). They had street battles with Nazis, but the KPD worked with the Nazis to undermine the Weimar Republic. Under the direct orders of Stalin the KPD worked towards the fall of the republic under the belief that it would usher in a communist revolution like what happened in Russia. The KPD labeled the Social Democrats (SPD) as "Social Fascists" and formed a Red-Brown alliance with the actual Nazis to oust the pro-democratic parties from state governments. During a major workers strike in Berlin the Nazis famously supported a Communist strike that was opposed by the SPD. A cornerstone of Nazi strategy was to make the violent communists the face of leftism to discredit the movement as a whole and give justification for why they needed to take power. The communists of course walked into the trap and went as far as to do extreme things like openly keep kill counts of police officers to the horror of most normal Germans.

Both the parties of the Red-Brown alliance were deeply antisemitic and openly decried Jewish capital. In 1933 most new recruits to the brown shirts were former Antifascist Aktion and Rotsbanner members jokingly called "Beefsteak Nazis" for being red on the inside. Most of these heroic antifascist fighters literally became Nazis. The rest died in camps or survived to become the first Stasi agents in East Germany.

Not only did the Communists directly fuel the Nazis and work with them, but most of their fighters outright became Nazis just as Hitler was taking power. Heck, most of the symbols of Antifa do not even come from the original Antifa. The Iron Front of three arrows fame was the paramilitary of an alliance of pro-democratic parties including the SPD, Catholic Center party, and some liberal parties.