Flat Earth: Who's it hurting? - Anybody at all?

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Piss Clam dijo:
It's like the moon hoaxers. It's not like you can shine a laser at the moon or anything.

So the flat eathers have to prove it is flat, and of course so far they haven't. That includes the chemtrail people who only need to get an airplane up in the sky and sample a "chemtrail". Should be easy to crowd source for the money, no?

I don't think they should be censored at all, because I'm adult enough to just skip past their bullshit.

gbtimes.com

China just bounced a laser off reflectors on the Moon placed by NASA's Apollo 15 mission

China has successfully used a 1.2 metre telescope laser ranging system to bounce light off an retroreflector placed on the Moon during the Apollo 15 mission
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I believe the moon exists and whatever, but using China's claims as evidence for anything is a terrible idea.
 
Violence Jack dijo:
if they're censoring it then that means there's some threat of it being factual instead of farcical. If there were no threat then why would they care?
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Here's what I'd say after taking a hit, downing a beer and sitting down to talk conspiracy stuff.


If they're censoring it, they do it to make other censorship seem more reasonable.

Somebody wants to discredit the argument that censorship only happens to factual things and not just farcical things.
 
Exigent Circumcisions dijo:
There's an easy response to solipsism of that nature.

"No one Truth is supreme, all are Equal!"
"...Is that True?"
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I get that you're having a laugh, but with everything happening lately people aren't following facts per se, they're following their specific interpretation of facts or the ones they're most invested in. Shit, I'm not gonna say that human perception is perfect. That's why scientists have peer review, but they definitely have a vested interest in proving that their perception is valued over Tom, Dick, and Harry's. Doesn't make their interpretation of facts wrong just that they're good at writing words about how they're right.
 
Violence Jack dijo:
I get that you're having a laugh, but with everything happening lately people aren't following facts per se, they're following their specific interpretation of facts or the ones they're most invested in. Shit, I'm not gonna say that human perception is perfect. That's why scientists have peer review, but they definitely have a vested interest in proving that their perception is valued over Tom, Dick, and Harry's. Doesn't make their interpretation of facts wrong just that they're good at writing words about how they're right.
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All we've got to go on is our imperfect human perceptions, unfortunately. I just hold onto the fact that some things are undeniably true (gravity, for instance) and fit everything else into a worldview that seems made up of the most facts possible. We're never going to be free of biased interpretations or people with a vested interest in being the gatekeepers.

It was the priests at the temple once, then it was the rulers, now it's the technocracy and the propaganda peddlers. Unfortunately this is one of those problems where any cure would be worse than the disease and a revolution will just assure the emergence of another form of gatekeeping. So yeah, I'm having a laugh but it's also one of those things that doesn't permit much else in the way of a response.
 
It "Hurts" no one DIRECTLY. However it sets a precedent for stupidity that, as an already ailing society attempting democracy,we definitely should not encourage. Modern democracies ended up the way they are by stupidity, gullibility and naivete on the part of their electorates. It is not a behavior that should be encouraged if you value democratic governance and its viability.
 
If we've really reached a point where the best way to deal with flat earthers is through censorship and not by spreading facts then we've failed as a society.
The flat earth model is trivially easy to debunk.
1. The sun sets beneath the horizon. A telescope and some sun filters are enough to see that the sun is partially obscured as it sets, even over the ocean. There are also plenty of pictures of this online.
2. The sun maintains very close to the same angular size in the sky throughout the day. It doesn't shrink as it sets, or grow as it raises.
3. GPS works, and directional antennae can be constructed that can be used to determine the location and motion of the satellites. Either planes are taking off and landing in the exact right motion to fool you specifically, standing exactly where you are, into thinking that they are satellites in orbit, or satellites are in orbit.
4. If you have two directional antennae, your friend can go some distance away and point to the same signal and measure the angle to it, while you do the same. With some trigonometry you can find out how high the signal is, and surprise surprise, it's way above airplane height.
5. You can literally take pictures of the ISS.
 
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