🦊 Furry Financial Furry Fuck-Ups - When Funds & Furries Don't Mix

I'll pay furry artists a living wage.

A living wage for the bumfuck part of Russia they live in. Furry artists need to realize globalization has come for them.
 
Given that the economy is shit right now, and people are paying more for essentials, I wonder how much demand for fur art has declined...
Not the customer's fault they can't pay you to draw their sparkle[species] because they need to pay for food and rent, too.
Enough that I have noticed an uptick of artists desperately trying to shill their YCH more.

And slots that are normally sold out in minutes now taking days to fill.
 
Enough that I have noticed an uptick of artists desperately trying to shill their YCH more.

And slots that are normally sold out in minutes now taking days to fill.
Better start looking for a backup career. Nothing wrong with making a living as an artist, but if you ain't making a living...well, I got some bad news for you sport...

I'll pay furry artists a living wage.

A living wage for the bumfuck part of Russia they live in. Furry artists need to realize globalization has come for them.
Isn't this part of why Miles-DF is ridiculously successful, even by furry standards? I heard somewhere he's Russian, lives in Russia. So in addition to his shit going for around 1,000 USD, that money goes a LOT farther in Mother Russia.
 
Isn't this part of why Miles-DF is ridiculously successful, even by furry standards? I heard somewhere he's Russian, lives in Russia. So in addition to his shit going for around 1,000 USD, that money goes a LOT farther in Mother Russia.
If I recall correctly, rent is ridiculously cheap in Russia, and this fact was prevalent even before the Russia-Ukraine war started.
 
Isn't this part of why Miles-DF is ridiculously successful, even by furry standards? I heard somewhere he's Russian, lives in Russia. So in addition to his shit going for around 1,000 USD, that money goes a LOT farther in Mother Russia.
This is totally true, but he makes bank even by US standards, so it doesn't really explain it.
 
This is totally true, but he makes bank even by US standards, so it doesn't really explain it.
I guess I personally see him as doubly successful:
1. He's already making decent money by US standards.
2. He lives in a place where those US dollars are worth EVEN more, ergo, making him even more well off.
You can't do "Russian cheap" here in the US, but you can absolutely move somewhere where the rent isn't $3,000 a month. But.....
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(Don't think this person's a furry, but I've certainly seen the same sentiment passed around furry artist circles)
 
This is totally true, but he makes bank even by US standards, so it doesn't really explain it.
Miles-DF is a strange creature. By his own accounts (at least, a few years back when I heard it), he hates drawing furry characters. Apparently, the ridiculous price he charged was simply to try and limit demand on him. That was when he was actually doing commissions, mind. Now, he gets to let gullible furfags pay him what they want via auctions. Given that these auctions run up to five figures regularly, I say he definitely hit the jackpot in the perfect storm of name recognition (by furries), and a ready pool of suckers willing to hand over cash for jpgs.
 
Miles-DF is a strange creature. By his own accounts (at least, a few years back when I heard it), he hates drawing furry characters. Apparently, the ridiculous price he charged was simply to try and limit demand on him. That was when he was actually doing commissions, mind. Now, he gets to let gullible furfags pay him what they want via auctions. Given that these auctions run up to five figures regularly, I say he definitely hit the jackpot in the perfect storm of name recognition (by furries), and a ready pool of suckers willing to hand over cash for jpgs.
That's not true, he enjoys drawing furry shit. His own personal art has been furry art for all of this time with no humans. He's been doing it for over a decade. It's after he started doing drugs that his art quality started going down.
 
you forgot the best part. apparently she 'accidentally' transferred her funds incorrectly which caused square to eat almost $800 in fees.


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i'm not sure what she had prior to the transfer but squares transfer fee is 1.5% of the total amount so i can't see how it would equal that much unless she had a large lump sum, i'm not a math kiwi so i can't really speculate.

edit: disregard i am a retard. she originally transferred over 1k
 
Oh
you forgot the best part. apparently she 'accidentally' transferred her funds incorrectly which caused square to eat almost $800 in fees.


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i'm not sure what she had prior to the transfer but squares transfer fee is 1.5% of the total amount so i can't see how it would equal that much unless she had a large lump sum, i'm not a math kiwi so i can't really speculate.

edit: disregard i am a retard. she originally transferred over 1k
I didn't see that part!
Planning to move to "save money", then proceeds to lose money by not minding the Ps and Qs.
And Ohio from Pennsylvania? Why, because rents gave dropped since the chemical spill?
 
There's also been a ton of bitching from fursuit makers about how nobody's buying their premades.
This makes sense tbh, premades cater to a relatively small market of furries that have A. enough spare cash to afford one, B. no character they in particular want to commission a custom piece for, C. are able to "connect" to a design someone else made (even if the design itself is decent on it's own).
From what i can tell having talked to some artists who sell these at conventions and what have you they are simply more fun and rewarding to make, and understandably so as it is your creation from start to finish (fat chance they follow the people that buy their suits as there's little quite as rewarding as seeing other people enjoy your creations).
A very niche market indeed, i don't imagine there are a lot of fursuit makers that make a living off of premades alone.
 
are able to "connect" to a design someone else made
youd think this would actually make quite a large portion of furries, seeing as they love things like adopts and seem to very strongly connect to nothing more than a design

this is true for just about every artistic field tho, especially if what you make is quite unusual
in my own work i also find it much harder to sell premade art, than it is to get commissions
 
Bit of a "Trust me bro" moment, but I saw a furry artist who was bitching and moaning about not being able to afford rent and such, that they needed commissions and going on a rant about how they were pissed off about other artists "Stealing the market" (I guess). Well when pressed on it all they let slip they had moved into the apartment promising themselves and the owner that "Within 6 months I'll be a popufur artist!!!" .... Without even having more than a handful of paid commissions under their belt beforehand. Obviously they got ripped apart in the chat by myself and other furries on how retarded that notion is and that just magically expecting to get commissions is ridiculous, especially enough to cover yourself fully. It's like those lolcows who see famous Youtubers "Living the life" and somehow believe they can do the same on their channel with bad videos and 50 subs/2views.
 
Bit of a "Trust me bro" moment, but I saw a furry artist who was bitching and moaning about not being able to afford rent and such, that they needed commissions and going on a rant about how they were pissed off about other artists "Stealing the market" (I guess). Well when pressed on it all they let slip they had moved into the apartment promising themselves and the owner that "Within 6 months I'll be a popufur artist!!!" .... Without even having more than a handful of paid commissions under their belt beforehand. Obviously they got ripped apart in the chat by myself and other furries on how retarded that notion is and that just magically expecting to get commissions is ridiculous, especially enough to cover yourself fully. It's like those lolcows who see famous Youtubers "Living the life" and somehow believe they can do the same on their channel with bad videos and 50 subs/2views.
well yknow what?

i dont think i trust you
 
Well, someone's pleased with themselves...
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I can only assume it's true to some extent, because how else does she manage to scrape enough money together each month?
Sounds like her adopts or whatever don't make enough to cover her numerous financial fuck ups, so she has to resort to e-begging to make up the difference. And people do share and ask others to donate on her behalf, so I guess it's working.
I for the life of me don't understand it. Plenty of people online who actually DO the work, and don't get nearly as much grace. I'm guessing she managed to corner the market in suckers who like throwing away their money.
 
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A PayPal loan for Xmas gifts?
Why would you want to share this with people?
A PayPal loan for Christmas Gifts is rather concerning.

Don't get me wrong, if you have a kid - I can understand that. It's not the best financial move BUT parents often try to give their kids what they could never have. But I imagine the cow of your ire is childless, is that right?

The public sharing of frivolous debts is a very grifty thing to do, absolutely cringe-worthy and why I like this thread :)
 
A PayPal loan for Christmas Gifts is rather concerning.

Don't get me wrong, if you have a kid - I can understand that. It's not the best financial move BUT parents often try to give their kids what they could never have. But I imagine the cow of your ire is childless, is that right?

The public sharing of frivolous debts is a very grifty thing to do, absolutely cringe-worthy and why I like this thread :)
Yep, childless...unless you count the "fur babies".
And this particular cow has a tendency to overshare her debts as a way to gin up sympathy, so the lolmilk flows freely.
 
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