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Rich Evans Ayypologist dijo:
I dunno, some tanks are more boring than other tanks. Paladin's the worst of the bunch - you do the same things over and over and over again, basically just as they come off of cooldown.
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At least Requiescat and Fight or Flight management requires marginally more thought than pretty much the entirety of Warrior's current kit, otherwise I'd agree.
 
Mister Uno dijo:
I absolutely hated ARR. I am not sure if you played before or after they made it shorter and a bit more bearable. But I played before and my god, it was awful. Enjoyed Shadowbringers and Heavensward much more. Stormblood had a weaker story then the rest but fun fights.
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By no means was Stormblood a bad expansion, i enjoyed the story, the scenery, music and characters very much. The reason why i compared it with ARR is cause ARR is regarded by the community as the most atrocious part of FF14 to chew trough before you get to the fun and they are right, but to me the parts with the Ala Mhigo felt worse than the bad parts of ARR. The reasons for me are: while doma's people were taken into forced labor by the empire and worked to death, you were gallivanting with dragon people, taking part into feats of strenght, go hunting for dinner and having large feasts because we need their forces in the coming uprising to set doma's people free and to bring doma home. The pacing went from 100 to 0 and to be honest the quest are tedious and boring, the music and scenery are bad and the characters are forgettable. It would better suited as a part of the epilogue instead of were it is placed now.

Lyse was in my opinion, a very bad protagonist.....no character development prior to and really came from nowhere. Her midget boyfriend who sacrificed himself was far more interesting than her. During Stormblood i came to dislike her and she also got the skip scene treatment, and now i hope she explodes to pieces in Endwalker.
The part with the doma and the retaking of his castle i liked very much, and i hoped for a redemption arc for Yotsuyu so she and big daddy could be together for a bit of happy time, but it ended to my satisfaction....i really felt for the girl and that story line was amazing. Her psychopath brother was a good character really liked his mental episodes. I like asian asthetics so i might be a bit based, but the short quest line with Tataru, and the turtle guy and the spirit animals, should be twice as long, and all the easter eggs hinting towards Chinese and Japanese fairy tales troughout the whole expansion, made me a happy man.

I started playing FF14 and now maining a RDM around 5 weeks ago so probably got the short version^^, i love the game so far but sometimes i want to strangle the developers for their quest design,and the amount of trannies, furry's, weeaboo's and autistic leftism is sickening, got into several FC while friendly nice people at first, all of them talk in baby, furry owo uwu speak in chat, go deep into substance abuse or child abuse they had in the past which make them want to kill themselves but not yet since a new expansion is coming soon, and they treat their game toons like an extension of themselves like wtf. So i fly solo and having the single player JRPG experience......which can be a bit boring but much preferred over a a 41yo woman who is crying tiny tears because the tiny sultan has a tiny hard time UwU.
 
Pimpleking55 dijo:
By no means was Stormblood a bad expansion, i enjoyed the story, the scenery, music and characters very much. The reason why i compared it with ARR is cause ARR is regarded by the community as the most atrocious part of FF14 to chew trough before you get to the fun and they are right, but to me the parts with the Ala Mhigo felt worse than the bad parts of ARR. The reasons for me are: while doma's people were taken into forced labor by the empire and worked to death, you were gallivanting with dragon people, taking part into feats of strenght, go hunting for dinner and having large feasts because we need their forces in the coming uprising to set doma's people free and to bring doma home. The pacing went from 100 to 0 and to be honest the quest are tedious and boring, the music and scenery are bad and the characters are forgettable. It would better suited as a part of the epilogue instead of were it is placed now.

Lyse was in my opinion, a very bad protagonist.....no character development prior to and really came from nowhere. Her midget boyfriend who sacrificed himself was far more interesting than her. During Stormblood i came to dislike her and she also got the skip scene treatment, and now i hope she explodes to pieces in Endwalker.
The part with the doma and the retaking of his castle i liked very much, and i hoped for a redemption arc for Yotsuyu so she and big daddy could be together for a bit of happy time, but it ended to my satisfaction....i really felt for the girl and that story line was amazing. Her psychopath brother was a good character really liked his mental episodes. I like asian asthetics so i might be a bit based, but the short quest line with Tataru, and the turtle guy and the spirit animals, should be twice as long, and all the easter eggs hinting towards Chinese and Japanese fairy tales troughout the whole expansion, made me a happy man.

I started playing FF14 and now maining a RDM around 5 weeks ago so probably got the short version^^, i love the game so far but sometimes i want to strangle the developers for their quest design,and the amount of trannies, furry's, weeaboo's and autistic leftism is sickening, got into several FC while friendly nice people at first, all of them talk in baby, furry owo uwu speak in chat, go deep into substance abuse or child abuse they had in the past which make them want to kill themselves but not yet since a new expansion is coming soon, and they treat their game toons like an extension of themselves like wtf. So i fly solo and having the single player JRPG experience......which can be a bit boring but much preferred over a a 41yo woman who is crying tiny tears because the tiny sultan has a tiny hard time UwU.
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You won't be alone in thinking Stormblood was absolute dogshit. Stormblood reeks of having two expansion squished into one, or a forced mandate by the higher ups to squeeze Asian aesthetics into this. Like you, I liked the Doma sections more than the Ala Mhigger ones, simply because the story doesn't twist itself into pretzels there, and is a coherent if basic-bitch whole. Ala Mhigger place in the start and the end of the expansion really hurt it.

And as you noted Lyse was absolutely wasted as a character. Sobbed about her supposedly lost friend for a whole two quests before being magically okay. Reduced to being a mandatory grill sidekick early on after her reveal, and given undeserved accolades and recognition that should have rightfully been given to Chad Raubahn and Pipin instead. Or even M'Naago. Everyone else contributed but the useless white girl at the back of the class got promoted instead. What a fucking waste.
 
I can agree with/understand that she's not the most well-written character by any means. Her character development was paced somewhat dodgily and the things I explained above were never deeply touched on or brought up (except in passing) due to her having more of a "side role."

But as a writer, I can tell you that we intentionally avoid "spelling things out," holding hands, or being too "on the nose." Readers are treated as intelligent/able to grasp the nuances of different characters without piling loads of exposition on their heads.

Perhaps this is why I like Lyse, and others don't, as I have no problem putting the pieces together on my own. And the idea of everyone blaming Lyse because they simply can't grasp the nuances of her personality or backstory without having it spelled out for them is... well... let's just say it doesn't make me feel any better about the Lyse hate.

But for real, Lyse simps for some reason has the most obnoxious contrarians in this community who think they're are holier then thou because they like some blonde anime bitch (assuming they don't talk about muh sexism). I think second only to Zenos simps who just go "Zenos is cool because he's just evil" or "People that don't like Zenos just hate him because he ruined people's power fantasies".

Why is Stormblood of all expansions suffered with this much bullshit? I would have figured Shadowbringers with based Ascian genocide justifications would have more shit flinging, but no, for some reason the expansion about just beating up the evil bad empire is the one autists obsess over talking about.
 
The problem with tanks isn't that they made enmity generation too simple. The problem is that their defensive toolkits are too strong (to the point where tenacity is basically useless) and their defensive toolkits basically don't interact with their DPS toolkit at all. And this is also partially a problem of FFXIV boss damage being too bursty and generic. There's not a ton of choice involved in what defensive to use when and there's basically no opportunity cost to using one defensive over another.

The other problem is a lack of CC and raid utility which tanks in other games tend to possess but that's a side-effect of encounter design in XIV.
 
Gravemind dijo:
At least Requiescat and Fight or Flight management requires marginally more thought than pretty much the entirety of Warrior's current kit, otherwise I'd agree.
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Picking and choosing when to use the bunga mode to align with buffs, making sure not to clip the bunga meter, keeping infuriate from getting back to 2, and keeping up storm's eye are all pretty simple - but a lot more involved than 'use FoF when it comes off of cooldown' and 'use Req before movement if possible, otherwise after the second FoF goring blade'. Paladin is only fun and interesting when other people fuck up and you can save the day with intervention, cover, clemency, and their litany of moves that serve extremely niche purposes.

the real reason to play tank is to make fun of the "wait for cutscene" white knights by telling people during the third boss of the alliance raid to watch the upcoming cutscene and not skip it if they haven't already seen it. then you pull the boss. Despite the fact that this objectively makes everyone happy - new players know they're good to watch the cutscene, veterans don't have to wait around doing nothing, no boss does any real mechanics of note within the first ~30-60 seconds of its fight - you would swear you were committing genocide.
 
Found this comparison video for the JP and the EN launch trailers for EW with the JP lines translated. In particular the narrators are different in a few spots (notably the end). Some lines are also notably different, the most notable one I see is "There must be a way to restore things to the way they were. To reclaim the paradise we once had." is instead "Zodiark, the god who created us. Let our prayers be heard somehow."

EN text on top and JP > EN translation on the bottom.

 
Zeke Von Genbu dijo:
I can agree with/understand that she's not the most well-written character by any means. Her character development was paced somewhat dodgily and the things I explained above were never deeply touched on or brought up (except in passing) due to her having more of a "side role."

But as a writer, I can tell you that we intentionally avoid "spelling things out," holding hands, or being too "on the nose." Readers are treated as intelligent/able to grasp the nuances of different characters without piling loads of exposition on their heads.

Perhaps this is why I like Lyse, and others don't, as I have no problem putting the pieces together on my own. And the idea of everyone blaming Lyse because they simply can't grasp the nuances of her personality or backstory without having it spelled out for them is... well... let's just say it doesn't make me feel any better about the Lyse hate.

But for real, Lyse simps for some reason has the most obnoxious contrarians in this community who think they're are holier then thou because they like some blonde anime bitch (assuming they don't talk about muh sexism). I think second only to Zenos simps who just go "Zenos is cool because he's just evil" or "People that don't like Zenos just hate him because he ruined people's power fantasies".

Why is Stormblood of all expansions suffered with this much bullshit? I would have figured Shadowbringers with based Ascian genocide justifications would have more shit flinging, but no, for some reason the expansion about just beating up the evil bad empire is the one autists obsess over talking about.
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I want Lyse to be a big buff muscle woman who holds me in her arms while jerking me off.

I will accept nothing less.
 
I don't hate Lyse, I just don't care for her. I don't care much for Hein either if I'm being honest. People are quick to put him on a pedestal but they forget he shows up roughly half way through and suffers the same problem as Lyse, the difference being that we have context with Lyse moonlighting as Yda where Hein is just absent altogether until we meet him in reuinion.

Both of them are underwhelming characters.

They tried something different by making two different storylines with 2 different protagonists. When they both have to share screentime, neither of them will get the development they need to feel like fleshed out characters. That's why Stormblood suffered. It tried to pack two different stories into a single expansion and in trying to do too much, they end up doing the complete opposite: not doing enough.
 
Dopey Cunt dijo:
I don't care much for Hein either if I'm being honest. People are quick to put him on a pedestal
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Mostly because the common backlash Hien gets doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he suffers a lot of the same problems as Lyse, it's that he's a colonizer for basically playing by the Xaela's cultural rules in order to recruit them to win back Doma, and it's that he personally doesn't kill Yotsuyu's pimp or takes any personal responsibility for his people turning Yotsuyu into the monster she became by way of punishing himself – possibly by committing sudoku.
 
JektheDumbass dijo:
I am bored with Zenos. I don't even want to have a fight with him, I hope he dies in the least dignified way possible, like in a cutscene while taking a 2 hour shit.
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Personally I hope the writer can actually turn him into an interesting character so that him clawing his way back into the story wasn't a huge waste of time and programming resources.
 
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I found a certain admin in game ;)
 
I stood up and clapped after finishing Seat of Sacrifice and 5.3. Not even American, but I just had to do it. I wasn't really on board with the Ascian redemption plot until this, and it actually made me like Elidibus more than Emet even though I fucking despised him at first for the body he was riding around in at the time.
Elidibus struck me as a little strange through the post SHB content. He's insanely stubborn and idealistic, almost living in a fantasy world considering what he screams during the trial, while being incredibly cruel and abusive. But him being a child (if he is a child, I saw people say he was just a twink but since he's our height and the other ghosts call us children and ask where our parents are then he's got to be incredibly young in their society) explains it perfectly. The only thing more stubborn than a zealot is a kid. It's one of the reason why child soldiers are so dangerous. They're quick to follow orders, to complete the mission, no matter the odds or what they have to do. They are cruel and ruthless and stubborn. And Elidibus WAS a child soldier, one with a high rank and many responsibilities but still too young to be doing what he was doing.

The other thirteen put the weight of the world on his shoulders-Elidibus was the most important role on the convocation since he was some sort of mediator for them- and he refused to put it down even as he forgot so much that was important to him. Putting him down was a mercy in the end.
 
Gravemind dijo:
Mostly because the common backlash Hien gets doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he suffers a lot of the same problems as Lyse, it's that he's a colonizer for basically playing by the Xaela's cultural rules in order to recruit them to win back Doma, and it's that he personally doesn't kill Yotsuyu's pimp or takes any personal responsibility for his people turning Yotsuyu into the monster she became by way of punishing himself – possibly by committing sudoku.
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Hien isn't that interesting, but two things of why I think Hien is different from Lyse.

One, he isn't really intended to be complicated like Lyse is intended to come off as, he's basically like Aymeric 2.0: Asian edition. He serves as the leader of Doma, but when Doma isn't relevant he respectfully leaves the plot. He is important (in the same way Aymeric is important), but he is not a central character to the overall story so the plot doesn't overuse him. Lyse is basically the MC of 4.0 so expectations are different which makes her issues worse because we deal with them more.

Two, Hien when we first actually meet him isn't a complete bumbling dipshit. He's a decently nice guy who has a decent plan to reclaim his kingdom. He also doesn't come off as up his own ass like Lyse at the start, as he acknowledges that his people may not even want him around anymore. It is basically Asian Aymeric with even less going on, but that to me just makes him an okay character. He has his purpose, but I don't exactly care about him on any sort of deep level.

Lyse is a once scion who replaces an entirely different character, and has an overly complicated backstory for no reason. Hien is a relatively simple character who has a clear purpose. and is relatively inoffensive to me save for maybe the whole Yotsuyu pimp situation. I don't even necessarily disagree with the idea behind that situation, I just think that whole plot just ends way too soon.
Spoonge dijo:
I stood up and clapped after finishing Seat of Sacrifice and 5.3. Not even American, but I just had to do it. I wasn't really on board with the Ascian redemption plot until this, and it actually made me like Elidibus more than Emet even though I fucking despised him at first for the body he was riding around in at the time.
Elidibus struck me as a little strange through the post SHB content. He's insanely stubborn and idealistic, almost living in a fantasy world considering what he screams during the trial, while being incredibly cruel and abusive. But him being a child (if he is a child, I saw people say he was just a twink but since he's our height and the other ghosts call us children and ask where our parents are then he's got to be incredibly young in their society) explains it perfectly. The only thing more stubborn than a zealot is a kid. It's one of the reason why child soldiers are so dangerous. They're quick to follow orders, to complete the mission, no matter the odds or what they have to do. They are cruel and ruthless and stubborn. And Elidibus WAS a child soldier, one with a high rank and many responsibilities but still too young to be doing what he was doing.

The other thirteen put the weight of the world on his shoulders-Elidibus was the most important role on the convocation since he was some sort of mediator for them- and he refused to put it down even as he forgot so much that was important to him. Putting him down was a mercy in the end.
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Eldibius is I believe supposed to be considered a child or at least someone really young by Amarout standards, he's I think meant to be like a child prodigy if you read the text regarding him carefully which is why he's chosen. His purpose I believe was to keep the worlds spinning so the world can keep on chugging after it gets blown up. He's basically like a hero and symbol of the world like the WoL in-game is, but he's controlled opposition. That's how I understood his role which is why they say "there may be times where you will be turned against us".

I think the child angle is supposed to be part of his (lack of) emotional stability, but he is stubborn because he's effectively a primal with the wishes of Amarout forced upon him. He is quite literally made to be a primal so a lot of his wills and desires are forced upon him when he became Elidibus. His whole thing is that everything he is fighting for is basically just artificially implanted. It is like being a robot who has a vague command, but his creators are dead so he has no idea for what purpose his actions even have. He knows the objective, but not the purpose and that's why he's tragic.

I also love his last words "The rains have ceased, and we are graced with another beautiful day...but you are not here to see it."
 
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