Even now they don't understand.
I'm not here to ridicule any current KO user or even one clique. I don't interact with that forum beyond viewing screencaps here. I do not have the time or inclination to troll, harass, or in any other way bother the users there.
I'm here because I was sad at how things were going, felt they were going to get worse and, beyond the sadness now, I just check this thread for periodic updates on how truly far gone that forum has become, as a reminder.
It was never out of spite or hatred. It was out of a certain lament; as funny as that sounds, to lament for a forum of all things.
But FP did have a certain culture that has now given way to a site that I, had you shown it to me a decade ago as someone just wanting to download TF2 mods, could not recognize.
I come to KF for news and to read about games I like. The quality of discussion is good here.
On KO I often had to post because I felt my point of view was not touched on. Here I find a far greater diversity of viewpoints, so much so that I rarely have to chime in, the discussions are just that much more well rounded.
KO's claim to fame lately, a welcoming place for discussion (mostly of games) has a problems with plurality/diversity of opinions, even with non-political topics.
From what I've seen, no one in this thread "trolls" or "harasses" them. But KO users still contend there is a campaign of hate against them.
To me this indicates that even just pointing out how silly they are,
on a completely different site, is harassment in their minds. Any dissention or lamentation is automatically trolling.
And that is KO's culture now. Wrong points of view, even those unexpressed or just unseen on another site, are not permitted.